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Baby Cooper...

Jerz-girl — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:44:56 GMT

Yes I think BOTH parents are guilty as sin, however, I don't think switching the car seat is a big deal. (As of yet, don't know any of the facts yet) Didn't the parents have two cars, so wouldn't they need two car seats?? Maybe the newer car seat was in the mother's car, after all she did go to "pick him up" from day care, therefore she would of needed a car seat, and the father who was supposed to drop the baby off that day to day care needed a car seat in his car. So far now it's not that big of a deal to me. Maybe they couldn't afford two brand new car seats, they can be expensive, a decent car seat starts around $300 and goes up from there.

I know my daughter's suv have the kids car seats the majority of time, if her & her hubby switch cars, they switch the car seats around. I have my own set of car seats for the kids in my own vehicle because I spend a great deal of time with them...when I switch my cars around, I just move the car seats from one to the other to the SUV.

Also, since Chic-Fil where they had breakfast was less then two minutes away from his work, wouldn't of daddy been talking to Cooper??!! Outrageous!

Jerz

Re: Baby Cooper...

AngusandBuddhasMom — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:46:34 GMT

Cuz we don't have enough threads on this topic?????????????????????????????????????????

Re: Baby Cooper...

raven-blackbird — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:49:38 GMT

having a car seat the child has outgrown is pretty close to not having a car seat at all.........there isn't adequate protection for the child...........You have a child whose neck and head is not being supported by a car seat and you have a potential broken neck should you have to slam of your brakes...............of course they never gave this any consideration because they didn't care about Cooper in the first place...........................................raven

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QueenDanceALot — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:51:05 GMT

Yeah, why buy another car seat that fits when you're just going to kill the kid anyway.

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reese2 — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:59:07 GMT

When my grandson outgrew his car seat, it never in a million years occurred to me to cast it off into another vehicle to save myself the trouble of having to move the seat. I wouldn't have bought another one if that one still worked/fit, and if it wasn't safe in my car, it wouldn't have been safe in my husband's car or our truck.

Re: Baby Cooper...

Jerz-girl — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:05:51 GMT

On 7/10/2014 raven-blackbird said:
having a car seat the child has outgrown is pretty close to not having a car seat at all.........there isn't adequate protection for the child...........You have a child whose neck and head is not being supported by a car seat and you have a potential broken neck should you have to slam of your brakes...............of course they never gave this any consideration because they didn't care about Cooper in the first place...........................................raven

Hey Raven, Not necessarily true. According to Academy of Pediatrics, wait let me just post it, you can read it for yourself...

For safety's sake, it's best to keep your child rear-facing until he reaches the seat's maximum height and weight limits.

Now both the AAP and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) recommend children face backward until they outgrow their seat. That means most children should remain in a rear-facing car seat until they're at least 2 or 3 years old.Many parents used to turn the seat to face front as soon as their child celebrated his first birthday. But in 2011 the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) revised its policy, citing a study that found children younger than 2 are 75 percent less likely to be killed or injured in a car crash if they're in a rear-facing car seat.

<h3 style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #333333; font-family: MuseoSlabHeavy, Georgia, Arial, serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: normal; margin: 16px 0px 6px;"> Why rear-facing is better</h3>

Very young children are especially at risk for head and spinal cord injuries because their bones and ligaments are still developing. Their heads are also proportionately larger than their necks, so the structural support system is still a little wobbly. Rear-facing seats give the best support to your child's head, neck, and spine, and prevent your child's head from being thrown away from his body in the event of a car crash.

Although the rate of death from motor vehicle crashes in children younger than 12 has gone down significantly – dropping 45 percent between 2000 and 2010 – they're still the leading cause of death in children older than 1.

When your child outgrows the height and weight limits of a rear-facing infant seat, you still have the option of moving him into a convertible seat with a higher height and weight limit. That way, you can keep him rear-facing a little longer, and when he's ready to ride facing forward, the convertible seat will still fit him.

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When sitting in a rear-facing car seat, most toddlers have limited legroom. Their legs usually touch the car seat behind them and may even have to be bent or crossed to fit.

This can be troubling to some parents who worry that the child is uncomfortable. Or worse, that his legs could be hurt in the event of a crash. But experts say that's not the case.

Rear-facing car seats are not only far more effective at preventing fatal injuries (as well as those that could permanently disable a child), but they're also much better at protecting your child's arms and legs.

"In a forward-facing car seat during an accident, your child's arms and legs fly forward and are more likely to be injured," says Ben Hoffman, a nationally recognized injury prevention specialist and pediatrician at the Doernbecher Children's Hospital, Oregon Health & Science University. "In a rear-facing car seat, the chance of injuries to the arms and legs in a crash is less than 1 in 10,000."

So it's still the safest position, even for kids who look constricted in a rear-facing seat. As long as kids are within the height and weight limits of the seat, they're most likely quite comfortable, too.

MANY REAR-FACING CAR SEATS NOW ACCOMMODATE KIDS WHO WEIGH 40, 45, or even 50 pounds, and are up to 49 inches tall. (Many kids exceed the height limit long before the weight limit.) Hoffman recommends keeping your child in the safest seat option for as long as possible and moving to the next step only when you absolutely have to.

For me personally the car seat doesn't prove guilt. Everything else does!!

Jerz

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Marienkaefer2 — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:10:02 GMT

I don't care about the car seat.

There's no way on God's green earth that the child was ""forgotten.""

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Jerz-girl — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:17:50 GMT

On 7/10/2014 Marienkaefer2 said:
I don't care about the car seat.

There's no way on God's green earth that the child was "forgotten."

Absolutely not, not in a million years! Also, there is no way Cooper who most likely had woken up not all that long ago fell a sleep so quickly after breakfast, no way was he ready for his nap...the poor kid just got up and had his breakfast, to me it doesn't add up.

Jerz

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QueenDanceALot — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:20:01 GMT

On 7/10/2014 Marienkaefer2 said:
I don't care about the car seat.

There's no way on God's green earth that the child was ""forgotten.""

Exactly!

I don't care how many women he was ""chatting"" with at the time.

(Some are saying he might have been ""distracted"" because of his s&x addiction.)

BS.

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Jerz-girl — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:23:27 GMT

resse, the only thing I disagree with you about is, on that day Cooper died, the parents couldn't just switch the car seat from one car to the other, they each would be having Cooper in their own cars at different times...father in the AM and the mother in the PM. They each needed a car seat that day.

According the the Academy of Pediatrics the parents did nothing wrong having the baby in the rear facing car seat.

Jerz

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croemer — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:24:34 GMT

On 7/10/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:
On 7/10/2014 Marienkaefer2 said:
I don't care about the car seat.

There's no way on God's green earth that the child was "forgotten."

Exactly!

I don't care how many women he was "chatting" with at the time.

(Some are saying he might have been "distracted" because of his s&x addiction.)

BS.

Nor would I take that as an excuse. What a sick, evil person he and probably his wife is.

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Hooty — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:26:33 GMT

On 7/10/2014 Marienkaefer2 said:
I don't care about the car seat.

There's no way on God's green earth that the child was "forgotten."

ITA ............. the defense is trying to prove this is how he was forgotten, because he couldn't see him, it won't work!!!

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Jerz-girl — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:32:22 GMT

We had a scare with Gianna Marie the other night where we actually had to pull over on the turnpike and call 911, I truly thought she was dying, she was unresponsive and Tinamarie (my daughter Gianna Marie's mother) was crying, I was beyond petrified!!!!!!!!! OMG I still won't even talk about it, I HATE reliving it!!!! I/we were SO, SO , SO SCARED! There is NO way I would of thought or said what the lady said about her son! I would DO ANYTHING, make ANY DEAL WITH THE DEVIL to bring her back, ANYTHING!! I shutter now to think about her not being with us, everything I would miss and everything she would miss!! Life IS precious and so are my grandbabies!! My life would be over!

Jerz

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wagnerdancer — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:53:06 GMT

The Chic-Fil-a (sp?) was a two minute drive - how could you forget your child? Impossible and total bull S. I cannot imagine the two parents getting up that morning dressing their sweet little son only to know (and I most certainly believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that this was planned) what they were about to do to this child! My heart is breaking. My grandson is only three months younger than Cooper and lives in the burbs of Atlanta - I am heartsick - HEARTSICK!

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QueenDanceALot — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:00:33 GMT

They are not going to get away with it.

I'm certain of that.

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Topaz Gem — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:09:09 GMT

On 7/10/2014 wagnerdancer said:
The Chic-Fil-a (sp?) was a two minute drive - how could you forget your child? Impossible and total bull S. I cannot imagine the two parents getting up that morning dressing their sweet little son only to know (and I most certainly believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that this was planned) what they were about to do to this child! My heart is breaking. My grandson is only three months younger than Cooper and lives in the burbs of Atlanta - I am heartsick - HEARTSICK!

I agree. If I tried really hard to give him the benefit of the doubt, it would have to be a situation where he drove an hour to work non-stop on the highway, where a person can be mesmerized by their radio and the scenery, especially if they're not a morning person. People can sort of go into a trance and some have even missed their exits. But with the Chick-Fil-A story, there's NO WAY he could have spaced out and forgotten his son after putting him in his car seat just a few minutes before.

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birddrops — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:36:21 GMT

When one parent is dropping off, and the other parent is picking up, you remove the car seat and leave it at the daycare facility for the parent picking up the child. Did this many times in the past.

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QueenDanceALot — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:44:51 GMT

People who are too dam%ed lazy to change car seats for their child shouldn't be having children.

He wasn't too lazy to juggle 6 women on his phone.

He's disgusting. She's disgusting.

That poor child.

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PIT-HAG Melissa — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:47:55 GMT

On 7/10/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:
People who are too dam%ed lazy to change car seats for their child shouldn't be having children.

He wasn't too lazy to juggle 6 women on his phone.

He's disgusting. She's disgusting.

That poor child.

ITA

..I can't/won't allow myself to think too deeply of what he went through before finally succumbing to the heat...

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Lion — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 22:34:54 GMT

On 7/10/2014 birddrops said:
When one parent is dropping off, and the other parent is picking up, you remove the car seat and leave it at the daycare facility for the parent picking up the child. Did this many times in the past.

Exactly. Very simple, very easy.

Even IF they couldn't leave the car seat at the daycare, wasn't it said that the daycare was close by his office? If so, she could've easily stopped by DH's office parking lot to get the car seat on her way to the daycare to get him..