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NOW MORE NEW FACTS ABOUT BABY....

Hoovermom — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 20:52:37 GMT

The toddler who died in his father's hot SUV in Georgia last month had been switched out of his forward-facing new car seat weeks before his death - even though he was too big for his old one.

Cooper Harris was found dead in his rear-facing car seat in a parking lot in Cobb County, Georgia on June 18 - after sweltering inside for more than seven hours.

His father, Ross Harris, faces a murder charge in the boy's death - but insists he mistakenly left his 22-month-old son inside the car before heading to work at Home Depot.

With the boy in the rear-facing seat, Harris would not have seen his child if he looked over towards it.

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raven-blackbird — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 20:56:25 GMT

sure he would have seen Cooper...........that little boy wouldn't fit and his legs would be going up the back seat.........one look in your rear view mirror would show a pair of legs up the back seat............and why change out the car seat from one he fits in, to one he doesn't..........only one reason...........facing forward, the little boy is not as exposed to the sun and heat ans he would be facing the rear...............raven

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QueenDanceALot — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 20:58:53 GMT

I think there's already a thread about this.

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raven-blackbird — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:01:18 GMT

On 7/7/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:
I think there's already a thread about this.

it's okay........she has brought even more information, that that little boy HAD BEEN in a front facing car seat, then changed back to a rear facing.........that, to me, definitely shows intent..........................raven

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terrier3 — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:02:27 GMT

Facing backwards, the coward dad wouldn't have to see the dead child!

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raven-blackbird — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:03:38 GMT

On 7/7/2014 terrier3 said:
Facing backwards, the coward dad wouldn't have to see the dead child!

nope............just a pair of little legs no longer moving.............................raven

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QueenDanceALot — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:07:44 GMT

There are no appropriate words for this piece of garbage.

Or TWO pieces of garbage.

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Hoovermom — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:08:56 GMT

I thought it might get lost in the other thread. I read that the monster knew the make, model and how much weight would hold the car seat. Now what dad would know that????? Again, he had to smell (not trying to be gross) when he opened the car door at noon. Awful details!

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terrier3 — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:09:55 GMT

On 7/7/2014 raven-blackbird said:
On 7/7/2014 terrier3 said:
Facing backwards, the coward dad wouldn't have to see the dead child!

nope............just a pair of little legs no longer moving.............................raven

Didn't the mom (or maybe both) say they were frightened to see what he looked like dead?

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QueenDanceALot — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:10:36 GMT

I didn't mean to criticize.

This topic is so horrific.

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maryebrown_1 — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:11:44 GMT

I'm waiting for warrants to be served on her...she has no spousal immunity from testifying against her husband under GA law and it will be interesting to see the charges they bring against her.

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Hoovermom — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:12:58 GMT

I believe the monster said that he was "calm" and the detective refuted that statement. Cooper had suffered greatly with abrasions on his head, face and was in the form of his car seat when he was taken out of the car.

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raven-blackbird — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:15:34 GMT

On 7/7/2014 terrier3 said:
On 7/7/2014 raven-blackbird said:
On 7/7/2014 terrier3 said:
Facing backwards, the coward dad wouldn't have to see the dead child!

nope............just a pair of little legs no longer moving.............................raven

Didn't the mom (or maybe both) say they were frightened to see what he looked like dead?

I don't know which of them said it...........but like Hovermom said, he didn't mind the smell and even the cops noted the over powering smell and wondered how he could have driven to the mall parking lot before thinking something was not right.....now keep in mind, this was AFTER the doors on that car had been opened a while waiting for the cops to arrive............remember he did the call/text to his wife about picking Cooper up from day care.........IF you opened the door or your car and got the stench of your life, you'd just get in and drive right???????.........but he did......then waited till he got to a mall parking lot to put on the show of his life.........................raven

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raven-blackbird — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:17:48 GMT

On 7/7/2014 Hoovermom said:
I believe the monster said that he was "calm" and the detective refuted that statement. Cooper had suffered greatly with abrasions on his head, face and was in the form of his car seat when he was taken out of the car.

sure he was rigamortis had set in...................................raven

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garmer — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:25:15 GMT

I've been trying to figure out how/why they were cramming him into a rear facing seat since I first heard the details. As I stated in an earlier thread, my nephew had to switch to a front facing seat at 10 mos, even though it wasn't legal. His legs were sticking up in the air. Now, this was 10 yrs ago so, maybe they have changed the seats. Back then, a 2 yr old wouldn't fit if the seat was facing back. The same seat could be legally used facing forward, you hooked it up differently. This detail has been bugging me all along.

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corita — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:33:45 GMT

I am just amazed and sad....just this week, we had TWO incidents of children left in hot cars! One was a little boy who was left by grandparents. His temp was 106 when he was taken out of the car. He is in hospital now and doing okay. The other, a little girl, who has passed away. Don 't know too much about the stories yet...everything is still being investigated! With all the information, news, media...how could this happen???

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Hooty — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:35:28 GMT

I remember the detective on the scene testifying in court, stating that they tried a dummy that was a little smaller than Cooper in the car seat and you could see the head above and also other body parts hanging out of the car seat! I also remember hearing that the when the police questioned the mother, she stated they had been using a bigger car seat/front forward, but had changed back to the back one recently!!!

The detective also said that they believe the child had been dead by 12:00, and probably was already smelling when he put the light bulbs in the car after lunch! Definitely was smelling when he got in around 4:15 - 4:30!!!

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raven-blackbird — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:36:49 GMT

On 7/7/2014 garmer said:
I've been trying to figure out how/why they were cramming him into a rear facing seat since I first heard the details. As I stated in an earlier thread, my nephew had to switch to a front facing seat at 10 mos, even though it wasn't legal. His legs were sticking up in the air. Now, this was 10 yrs ago so, maybe they have changed the seats. Back then, a 2 yr old wouldn't fit if the seat was facing back. The same seat could be legally used facing forward, you hooked it up differently. This detail has been bugging me all along.

we had to switch "baby girl" to a front facing at 18 months........she just turned 2.......there is NO WAY she could fit in her rear facing car seat and she isn't a big girl, she's a bit of a shrimp.........but she still won't fit..........even if you took a rear facing and turned it forward.......their head and shoulders won't fit and their legs are hanging...........these people knew what they were doing.............when baby girl had to be in the rear facing, my one concern was always the sun beating down on her from the rear window........I put a film up to keep it off her..........................................raven

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Marienkaefer2 — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:37:02 GMT

On 7/7/2014 corita said:
I am just amazed and sad....just this week, we had TWO incidents of children left in hot cars! One was a little boy who was left by grandparents. His temp was 106 when he was taken out of the car. He is in hospital now and doing okay. The other, a little girl, who has passed away. Don 't know too much about the stories yet...everything is still being investigated! With all the information, news, media...how could this happen???

It's pretty unthinkable. For me, forgetting my child in the car would be like forgetting my arm or my foot.

But who knows what goes on in people's minds.

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Hoovermom — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:41:55 GMT

Again, it just tells me that they planned this all along. Cooper is really in a better place today. Now waiting for justice to be served.