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they found him

raven-blackbird — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 03:56:59 GMT

the California fireman has been found...........may he rest in peace............................raven

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sylviahomeatlast — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 04:00:02 GMT

ooooooooh

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Lotus — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 04:03:34 GMT

Sad.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/27/mike-herdman-dead_n_5538827.html

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september — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 04:07:10 GMT

I'm sorry to hear this. Had hoped for a miracle.(sometimes they happen)

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raven-blackbird — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 04:12:17 GMT

know what you mean september.............I was so hopeful (against the odds ) that this wouldn't have this ending..........he has little kids, just so so sad..........................raven

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Love my grandkids — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 04:15:28 GMT

So so sad, may God bless him.

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Snowpuppy — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 04:17:35 GMT

I posted for EMT on the other thread.

This stinks. This man was experienced in backwoods country hikes. He had hiked some 1,200ft UP a hillside before falling to his death?

And what firefighter goes out barefoot? I've never known one to be without his boots.

Just sayin'.

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raven-blackbird — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 04:20:19 GMT

On 6/27/2014 Snowpuppy said:
I posted for EMT on the other thread.

This stinks. This man was experienced in backwoods country hikes. He had hiked some 1,200ft UP a hillside before falling to his death?

And what firefighter goes out barefoot? I've never known one to be without his boots.

Just sayin'.

they found his body in a rugged cliff area.........if he was out at night looking for that dog, he may have not seen he was at the cliff's end, and just walked off...........this is just so darn sad..............................raven

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PIT-HAG Melissa — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 04:20:23 GMT

Snowpuppy, Firefighters usually don't think to take their boots EVERY where..I never saw Seans in 10 yrs unless I went to visit him at his firehouse...

Here was my response on that thread...

newzie-

I have been reading multiple stories and I think any little misstep could have caused a fall.. Not even sure if gym shoes would matter if he lost balance and hit his head...(They would help with traction but not necessarily balance if he was racing to help his dog)

I could be wrong but I am not going to jump to the assumption that his friend (also a FF) did something nefarious...

ETA- I am not sure what being a firefighter has to do with "knowing better"... Most risk their lives even when they are SUPPOSED to wait sometimes ...

I have read a LOT of stories that don't make sense..This isn't one of them... Simple human error,IMHO...

IF his friend had ANYTHING to do with it, they may have been goofing off, an accident happened and he panicked..but even that is a stretch to me..

Personally, if I was in fear of losing one of my animals, I don't even know if I would have appropriate clothing on..My adrenaline would kick in and I wouldn't even waste a minute trying to put shoes on...

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missy1 — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 04:52:55 GMT

They were seperated I read. What about life insurance policies? I am looking at all angels.

Also, I read maybe he didn't fall down the cliff on the first night.

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raven-blackbird — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 05:07:46 GMT

On 6/27/2014 missyw1 said:
They were seperated I read. What about life insurance policies? I am looking at all angels.

Also, I read maybe he didn't fall down the cliff on the first night.

he had to be identified by dental records which leads to either severe decomposition or extreme facial trauma..............as hot as it's been here, that would add to the decomposition........I am just so darn upset about this.........my son is a cop, we look at firemen as cousins.........sad, so sad............................................raven

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ROMARY — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 05:11:56 GMT

Wish he would have had a flashlight handy, especially if it happened at night.

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Yuban3 — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 11:39:13 GMT

On 6/27/2014 JustMeMelissa said:
Snowpuppy, Firefighters usually don't think to take their boots EVERY where..I never saw Seans in 10 yrs unless I went to visit him at his firehouse...

Here was my response on that thread...

newzie-

I have been reading multiple stories and I think any little misstep could have caused a fall.. Not even sure if gym shoes would matter if he lost balance and hit his head...(They would help with traction but not necessarily balance if he was racing to help his dog)

I could be wrong but I am not going to jump to the assumption that his friend (also a FF) did something nefarious...

ETA- I am not sure what being a firefighter has to do with "knowing better"... Most risk their lives even when they are SUPPOSED to wait sometimes ...

I have read a LOT of stories that don't make sense..This isn't one of them... Simple human error,IMHO...

IF his friend had ANYTHING to do with it, they may have been goofing off, an accident happened and he panicked..but even that is a stretch to me..

Personally, if I was in fear of losing one of my animals, I don't even know if I would have appropriate clothing on..My adrenaline would kick in and I wouldn't even waste a minute trying to put shoes on...

I think it was just a simple accident, nothing more. He lost his footing, slipped and fell.

I have to agree with you, if my dog suddenly took off running after a squirrel, or something, and I was fearful that my dog might get lost, yeah, I might take off after it too, without any shoes on also.

Your adrenaline just kicks in, and you're like, "Oh, no! I've gotta get Fido before he gets too far away and lost!"

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PIT-HAG Melissa — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:05:08 GMT

On 6/28/2014 Yuban3 said:
I think it was just a simple accident, nothing more. He lost his footing, slipped and fell.

I have to agree with you, if my dog suddenly took off running after a squirrel, or something, and I was fearful that my dog might get lost, yeah, I might take off after it too, without any shoes on also.

Your adrenaline just kicks in, and you're like, "Oh, no! I've gotta get Fido before he gets too far away and lost!"

EXACTLY!!

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mousiegirl — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:22:04 GMT

So sad, but the dog should have been leashed. and unfortunately, he didn't live to learn this lesson. I don't know why people think that they have complete control of their dog when it isn't leashed. Ironic that the dog found it's way back, obviously, followed their scent.

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missy1 — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 18:18:35 GMT

An experienced hiker (who has been on that trail at least 4 times) with a full moon would not make that mistake.... unless he was on something, bit by a snake and fell over the cliff, or something nefarious. He would have stayed put until it was day light, or go back to camp.

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PIT-HAG Melissa — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 18:22:35 GMT

On 6/28/2014 missyw1 said:
An experienced hiker (who has been on that trail at least 4 times) with a full moon would not make that mistake.... unless he was on something, bit by a snake and fell over the cliff, or something nefarious. He would have stayed put until it was day light, or go back to camp.

That is why they are called "accidents"...

Happens to the best and most experienced regularly...

Sadly, many have the mentality that it "won't/can't happen to me"...

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foundinlv — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 18:43:15 GMT

People put their lives in jeopardy all the time for their pets. I will never forget that incident of the female news reporter (in the South I believe) who left her backdoor slightly ajar early one morning for her dog. Unknown to her, a criminal was in the area and he entered the home raped her and then beat her senseless until she died so she could not i.d. him. This woman was well known in her community and I'm sure they will never get over it.

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missy1 — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 20:20:49 GMT

On 6/28/2014 ILikeShade said:
People put their lives in jeopardy all the time for their pets. I will never forget that incident of the female news reporter (in the South I believe) who left her backdoor slightly ajar early one morning for her dog. Unknown to her, a criminal was in the area and he entered the home raped her and then beat her senseless until she died so she could not i.d. him. This woman was well known in her community and I'm sure they will never get over it.

Anne Pressly

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ROMARY — Sat, 28 Jun 2014 22:40:27 GMT

All hikers/campers.........make sure you always wear a clip-on flashlight during the evening. I'd say, even while sleeping. Never know when you might need one. Never know when you need help and the flashlight will enable rescuers to see/find you. All family members should wear flashlights, IMO. What if there is a forest fire, and you need to find your way in the smoke, etc. Those small Mag Lights (if they are still made/available) have a nylon holder to slip through your belt. Also, I believe there are harnesses equipped with mini lights for dogs. Wishing everyone safety.