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'Post-Antibiotic' Era a Deadlier Threat Than AIDS: WHO Drug resistance already present all over the world: report

SHAYDIE — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:35:16 GMT

Drug resistance today poses a bigger danger worldwide than did AIDS in the 1980s, the World Health Organization says in a dire-sounding report out today: "Without urgent, coordinated action, the world is headed for a post-antibiotic era, in which common infections and minor injuries which have been treatable for decades can once again kill," says a top official. Indeed, we could see a world where a child's fall from a bike could mean a "fatal infection," another WHO doctor tells the Telegraph.

"This serious threat is no longer a prediction for the future—it is happening right now in every region of the world and has the potential to affect anyone, of any age, in any country," the organization says in a press release. In many countries, for instance, E. coli treatments are powerless in more than half of patients, the AP reports. The report examined resistance in the germs behind illnesses like pneumonia and urinary tract infections; the Telegraph cites routine surgery and common bladder infections in retirement homes as possible dangers of the future. Governments, an expert says, must step up: "The world needs to respond as it did to the AIDS crisis of the '80s."

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AngusandBuddhasMom — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:40:18 GMT

Well anyone who demands Z pak drugs to get over infections should think about that. And if you get a Doctor who prescribes them you should look else where for a Dr.

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brii — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:42:02 GMT

Maybe people will stop clamoring for antibiotics for every little thing.

I have been saying that for a long time now.

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SHAYDIE — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:49:05 GMT

The problem is far more in depth than that. What about all the antibiotics injected into our food, not to mention the antibiotics getting into our water supply?

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brii — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:50:19 GMT

On 4/30/2014 SHAYDIE said:
The problem is far more in depth than that. What about all the antibiotics injected into our food?

And hormones...

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AngusandBuddhasMom — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:51:59 GMT

Becareful of what you eat. You can prevent or limit that. I eat a Paleo diet so I am aware of what I am eating as well as buying.

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Emma bunting — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:03:51 GMT

It needs to stop with doctors. They have to stop prescribing useless antibiotics for viral infections just because of pressure from their patients.

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QueenDanceALot — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:07:58 GMT

I think we're already there.

I was just talking to a woman last week who told me "Oh, I rarely take antibiotics, maybe once a year". I think that's pretty often.

AND she wants her doctor to prescribe them over the phone. And HE DOES!!

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QueenDanceALot — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:09:09 GMT

Don't eat factory farmed meats or poultry. Or non-organic dairy.

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Krimpette — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:11:15 GMT

I feel so fortunate to be reasonably healthy and can't recall when I last took an antibiotic (probably for dental work). However, I have a dear friend who runs to the doctor way more than I would and often wants an antibiotic. I agree. The doctors need to know when to say no to the patients "demanding" antibiotics.

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Tinkrbl44 — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:17:47 GMT

On 4/30/2014 Emma bunting said:
It needs to stop with doctors. They have to stop prescribing useless antibiotics for viral infections just because of pressure from their patients.

Doctors are only HALF the problem ...... people need to exercise common sense and not ask for antibiotics for every hangnail or cold.

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Irshgrl31201 — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:23:23 GMT

It really doesn't matter when YOU personally took antibiotics. The point is enough people world wide have taken them and they have been added to food to such a point that bacteria have become resistant to them creating super bugs. I always thought it only mattered how much I personally had taken antibiotics but my infectious disease doctor set me straight. Even if I never took antibiotics the bacteria itself has become stronger and more immune to antibiotics because of the overall use.

Here is an example in how much has changed in our food. Cows used to eat grass and grass was very good at eliminating ecoli. Our cows now mainly eat corn so we inject our cattle with antibiotics to avoid ecoli. If we put some grass back into their diet we could avoid the overuse of antibiotics when nature provided it in the grass they used to eat.

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Lion — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:27:08 GMT

Unfortunately, I had the opposite problem last year. I did have an infection and my dentist wouldn't prescribe an antibiotic until it was so bad that I was in excruciating pain.

I asked her twice about needing an antibiotic and her response was along the lines of this article - not wanting to give antibiotics so freely.

But, I was a patient who *did* need it.

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AngusandBuddhasMom — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:30:12 GMT

On 4/30/2014 Irshgrl31201 said:
It really doesn't matter when YOU personally took antibiotics. The point is enough people world wide have taken them and they have been added to food to such a point that bacteria have become resistant to them creating super bugs. I always thought it only mattered how much I personally had taken antibiotics but my infectious disease doctor set me straight. Even if I never took antibiotics the bacteria itself has become stronger and more immune to antibiotics because of the overall use.

Here is an example in how much has changed in our food. Cows used to eat grass and grass was very good at eliminating ecoli. Our cows now mainly eat corn so we inject our cattle with antibiotics to avoid ecoli. If we put some grass back into their diet we could avoid the overuse of antibiotics when nature provided it in the grass they used to eat.

You can still buy grass fed beef. And it does matter to YOU personally because if you take precautions through smart diet choices you can keep from getting sick. I am always amazed at people who think they eat ""healthy"". And they are eating things made with corn and sugar by products. They are eating sweetners in their coffee or tea. They do not read labels and eat dairy products that have ""natural"" flavors in them as well as sugar. So if you take the time to read packages and research what is in the ingredients you can make better choices and at least help yourself to stay healthy.

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tansy — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:31:32 GMT

On 4/30/2014 Lion said:
Unfortunately, I had the opposite problem last year. I did have an infection and my dentist wouldn't prescribe an antibiotic until it was so bad that I was in excruciating pain.

I asked her twice about needing an antibiotic and her response was along the lines of this article - not wanting to give antibiotics so freely.

But, I was a patient who *did* need it.

Ugh. I'd be looking for a new dentist.

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AngusandBuddhasMom — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:31:49 GMT

Put it this way sprinkling Tumeric on to your food and watching your dairy intake goes along way to stave off inflamation which can cause a heck of a lot of problems.

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QueenDanceALot — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:32:42 GMT

On 4/30/2014 Irshgrl31201 said:
It really doesn't matter when YOU personally took antibiotics. The point is enough people world wide have taken them and they have been added to food to such a point that bacteria have become resistant to them creating super bugs. I always thought it only mattered how much I personally had taken antibiotics but my infectious disease doctor set me straight. Even if I never took antibiotics the bacteria itself has become stronger and more immune to antibiotics because of the overall use.

Here is an example in how much has changed in our food. Cows used to eat grass and grass was very good at eliminating ecoli. Our cows now mainly eat corn so we inject our cattle with antibiotics to avoid ecoli. If we put some grass back into their diet we could avoid the overuse of antibiotics when nature provided it in the grass they used to eat.

Which is why I only eat grass fed beef. And free range chicken.

Some doctors would disagree that it doesn't really matter how many antibiotics we personally have taken.

Both issues are the issue.

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QueenDanceALot — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:34:12 GMT

On 4/30/2014 Caravaggio said:
Put it this way sprinkling Tumeric on to your food and watching your dairy intake goes along way to stave off inflamation which can cause a heck of a lot of problems.

My doc took me off dairy and told me to add turmeric daily to my smoothie.

I haven't had so much as a sniffle since.

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Silver Lotus — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:35:01 GMT

On 4/30/2014 Irshgrl31201 said:
It really doesn't matter when YOU personally took antibiotics. The point is enough people world wide have taken them and they have been added to food to such a point that bacteria have become resistant to them creating super bugs. I always thought it only mattered how much I personally had taken antibiotics but my infectious disease doctor set me straight. Even if I never took antibiotics the bacteria itself has become stronger and more immune to antibiotics because of the overall use.

Here is an example in how much has changed in our food. Cows used to eat grass and grass was very good at eliminating ecoli. Our cows now mainly eat corn so we inject our cattle with antibiotics to avoid ecoli. If we put some grass back into their diet we could avoid the overuse of antibiotics when nature provided it in the grass they used to eat.

Exactly. It has gotten to the point that it really doesn't matter what we do personally. The antibiotic resistant strains are already out there and if we have the unfortunate luck to become infected by one there is no antibiotic that will touch the infection. That is the point of this article. A simple infection could become the death of any one of us NOW, not in some distant future. The horse is OUT of the barn already so to shut the barn door now is futile.

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AngusandBuddhasMom — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:35:22 GMT

On 4/30/2014 KittyLouWhoToo said:
On 4/30/2014 Caravaggio said:
Put it this way sprinkling Tumeric on to your food and watching your dairy intake goes along way to stave off inflamation which can cause a heck of a lot of problems.

My doc took me off dairy and told me to add turmeric daily to my smoothie.

I haven't had so much as a sniffle since.