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Heads up about HSN forums

happygolfcartrider — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 05:34:26 GMT

Thought I would let everyone know, I was banned from the HSN forums with no explanation. I have no idea what I said because I was always very careful over there. Also found out that a friend was banned today and she had not posted anything not a word at all in 2 months.

I wonder what is going on over there? I emailed and asked for them to please explain what I said that got me banned and my friend tried to call but was put on hold forever so she said she is also emailing them for an explanation.

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

OnlyShopsOnline — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:55:22 GMT

Don't take it personally. I signed up over there several years ago, and posted just a couple of times about hobbies and sewing. Certainly nothing controversial about that. A few months after my last post, I tried to sign in and it came up that I was banned. I'm sure their website has issues. I really never pursued the problem because it wasn't that important to me. I'm sure that is what your problem is also.

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

happygolfcartrider — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:05:08 GMT

On 2/11/2014 only shops online said: Don't take it personally. I signed up over there several years ago, and posted just a couple of times about hobbies and sewing. Certainly nothing controversial about that. A few months after my last post, I tried to sign in and it came up that I was banned. I'm sure their website has issues. I really never pursued the problem because it wasn't that important to me. I'm sure that is what your problem is also.

What really bothers me is that they police every word people say even in the Private Messages. They are blatantly violating my and others right to free speech. I have made friends that I talk with on HSN and this really makes me mad.

I am going to talk to an attorney about the situation and I hope to find a hungry one that will let me sue them and get them off their police high horse. Someone needs to put a stop to what is going on over their and I hope I am the one to do it.

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

Yuban3 — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:03:14 GMT

On 2/11/2014 golfcartrider said:
On 2/11/2014 only shops online said: Don't take it personally. I signed up over there several years ago, and posted just a couple of times about hobbies and sewing. Certainly nothing controversial about that. A few months after my last post, I tried to sign in and it came up that I was banned. I'm sure their website has issues. I really never pursued the problem because it wasn't that important to me. I'm sure that is what your problem is also.

What really bothers me is that they police every word people say even in the Private Messages. They are blatantly violating my and others right to free speech. I have made friends that I talk with on HSN and this really makes me mad.

I am going to talk to an attorney about the situation and I hope to find a hungry one that will let me sue them and get them off their police high horse. Someone needs to put a stop to what is going on over their and I hope I am the one to do it.

HSN is a privately run board, owned by a private business. It is not run by, funded by, or in any way connected to the government. So therefore, there is no "free speech" infringement. It's their board, their rules. They can run it any way that they see fit. You are always free to go create a board that is more suitable to you. That's your right.

Any decent attorney worth their salt, would tell you the same. And if you try to pursue a frivolous lawsuit against them, when they are well within their rights as a privately run board, owned by a private business, you will loose. The case would be laughed at before being tossed out.

Sorry that you don't like that, but those are the facts.

But, I know that you don't believe me, so go ahead, pursue your baseless "case", see just how far you get.

Oh, and be sure to come back and tell us just how far you got, and exactly what happened, 'k?

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

happygolfcartrider — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:17:22 GMT

On 2/11/2014 Yuban3 said:
On 2/11/2014 golfcartrider said:
On 2/11/2014 only shops online said: Don't take it personally. I signed up over there several years ago, and posted just a couple of times about hobbies and sewing. Certainly nothing controversial about that. A few months after my last post, I tried to sign in and it came up that I was banned. I'm sure their website has issues. I really never pursued the problem because it wasn't that important to me. I'm sure that is what your problem is also.

What really bothers me is that they police every word people say even in the Private Messages. They are blatantly violating my and others right to free speech. I have made friends that I talk with on HSN and this really makes me mad.

I am going to talk to an attorney about the situation and I hope to find a hungry one that will let me sue them and get them off their police high horse. Someone needs to put a stop to what is going on over their and I hope I am the one to do it.

HSN is a privately run board, owned by a private business. It is not run by, funded by, or in any way connected to the government. So therefore, there is no "free speech" infringement. It's their board, their rules. They can run it any way that they see fit. You are always free to go create a board that is more suitable to you. That's your right.

Any decent attorney worth their salt, would tell you the same. And if you try to pursue a frivolous lawsuit against them, when they are well within their rights as a privately run board, owned by a private business, you will loose. The case would be laughed at before being tossed out.

Sorry that you don't like that, but those are the facts.

But, I know that you don't believe me, so go ahead, pursue your baseless "case", see just how far you get.

Oh, and be sure to come back and tell us just how far you got, and exactly what happened, 'k?

Wow, Do you work for them? Why are you harsh? Being nice is so much better. There are ways to express ones self without being judgmental or harsh.

I am sure you are a lovely person but you come across as bitter, try to ease up a bit and you will be much happier. Have a wonderful day and I really mean it!

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

CouponQueen — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:20:39 GMT

OMG..I am trying not to laugh..find a Attorney hungry enough to sue a company cause they banned you from their private owned boards?

Yuban is correct there is no free speech..this isn't the gov't.

Before I ran off the mouth I would find out exactly why I was banned? Maybe with the changes/upgrades it was by accident, maybe a glitch in the system?

With that said, maybe you did say something that warranted banning and you just do not think so? Just because you think you can say it, when in reality on private owned forums it is their way or the highway. Don't like it, open up your own forum and run it any way you choose. Their playground their rules!

By the way WHY is your "FRIEND" trying to call them for an explanation? Wouldn't or shouldn't you be calling them yourself?

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

CouponQueen — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:21:52 GMT

On 2/11/2014 golfcartrider said:
On 2/11/2014 Yuban3 said:
On 2/11/2014 golfcartrider said:
On 2/11/2014 only shops online said: Don't take it personally. I signed up over there several years ago, and posted just a couple of times about hobbies and sewing. Certainly nothing controversial about that. A few months after my last post, I tried to sign in and it came up that I was banned. I'm sure their website has issues. I really never pursued the problem because it wasn't that important to me. I'm sure that is what your problem is also.

What really bothers me is that they police every word people say even in the Private Messages. They are blatantly violating my and others right to free speech. I have made friends that I talk with on HSN and this really makes me mad.

I am going to talk to an attorney about the situation and I hope to find a hungry one that will let me sue them and get them off their police high horse. Someone needs to put a stop to what is going on over their and I hope I am the one to do it.

HSN is a privately run board, owned by a private business. It is not run by, funded by, or in any way connected to the government. So therefore, there is no "free speech" infringement. It's their board, their rules. They can run it any way that they see fit. You are always free to go create a board that is more suitable to you. That's your right.

Any decent attorney worth their salt, would tell you the same. And if you try to pursue a frivolous lawsuit against them, when they are well within their rights as a privately run board, owned by a private business, you will loose. The case would be laughed at before being tossed out.

Sorry that you don't like that, but those are the facts.

But, I know that you don't believe me, so go ahead, pursue your baseless "case", see just how far you get.

Oh, and be sure to come back and tell us just how far you got, and exactly what happened, 'k?

Wow, Do you work for them? Why are you harsh? Being nice is so much better. There are ways to express ones self without being judgmental or harsh.

I am sure you are a lovely person but you come across as bitter, try to ease up a bit and you will be much happier. Have a wonderful day and I really mean it!

I dont think she is being harsh at all. Did you read your whiney post about suing them..finding an attorney hungry enough..LOL! Seriously..an attorney hungry enough to take on HSN cause you were banned and don't like it? Seriously read your post and I don't think she was harsh at all..!

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

happygolfcartrider — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:37:10 GMT

On 2/11/2014 CouponQueen said:
On 2/11/2014 golfcartrider said:
On 2/11/2014 Yuban3 said:
On 2/11/2014 golfcartrider said:
On 2/11/2014 only shops online said: Don't take it personally. I signed up over there several years ago, and posted just a couple of times about hobbies and sewing. Certainly nothing controversial about that. A few months after my last post, I tried to sign in and it came up that I was banned. I'm sure their website has issues. I really never pursued the problem because it wasn't that important to me. I'm sure that is what your problem is also.

What really bothers me is that they police every word people say even in the Private Messages. They are blatantly violating my and others right to free speech. I have made friends that I talk with on HSN and this really makes me mad.

I am going to talk to an attorney about the situation and I hope to find a hungry one that will let me sue them and get them off their police high horse. Someone needs to put a stop to what is going on over their and I hope I am the one to do it.

HSN is a privately run board, owned by a private business. It is not run by, funded by, or in any way connected to the government. So therefore, there is no "free speech" infringement. It's their board, their rules. They can run it any way that they see fit. You are always free to go create a board that is more suitable to you. That's your right.

Any decent attorney worth their salt, would tell you the same. And if you try to pursue a frivolous lawsuit against them, when they are well within their rights as a privately run board, owned by a private business, you will loose. The case would be laughed at before being tossed out.

Sorry that you don't like that, but those are the facts.

But, I know that you don't believe me, so go ahead, pursue your baseless "case", see just how far you get.

Oh, and be sure to come back and tell us just how far you got, and exactly what happened, 'k?

Wow, Do you work for them? Why are you harsh? Being nice is so much better. There are ways to express ones self without being judgmental or harsh.

I am sure you are a lovely person but you come across as bitter, try to ease up a bit and you will be much happier. Have a wonderful day and I really mean it!

I dont think she is being harsh at all. Did you read your whiney post about suing them..finding an attorney hungry enough..LOL! Seriously..an attorney hungry enough to take on HSN cause you were banned and don't like it? Seriously read your post and I don't think she was harsh at all..!

CouponQueen, Thank You so much for your kind words. I am sure you too are a lovely person and I sincerely hope you have a wonderful day today.

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

game-on — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:14:17 GMT

golfcartrider.... I have posted on both boards... and observed what you have talked about. At first I had the kind of reaction you did, but then I thought about it.... I have a feeling that it would be a waste of money to hire a lawyer. My daughter is a lawyer and she and I talk about all kinds of issues.... she thinks the cost of paying an investigator to look into how the decision was made to "ban" someone and all of the billable hours for a lawyer would be high.

This is nothing but a pastime for people and before any company would put a lot of money into defending themselves they just might close down the boards. That would solve their problems and take away the fun for many people. I wouldn't want to take these forums away from the people who enjoy them so much because my words were poofed or that they might decide to ban me. I really don't need to be on this board this much. I don't have an ax to grind. I would rather give the money to research to save lives or some positive cause.

I urge you to take a look at the bigger picture.

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

WaJa61 — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 21:15:09 GMT

If I felt I had something relevant enough to share with the world for posterity, I'd start a blog, or website (either are easy and free), and invite friends and otherwise promote it. As stated above, what is "published" on privately owned public message boards becomes the sole property of that provider or company. We can't make or enforce rules on what we don't own. The only remote chance of winning a lawsuit might be if you could prove some form of discrimination.

Sorry for your frustrations... I hope you are able to connect with the friends you made there some other way. Perhaps they will see this post and recognize you.

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

Cyndog — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:09:57 GMT

The friend was banned as well.

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

happygolfcartrider — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:45:11 GMT

On 2/11/2014 cyndog said: The friend was banned as well.

The friend had not posted a word in 2 months EXCEPT for private massaging. I sure don't want to think that something said in a PRIVATE message would get someone banned.

That would certainly go far beyond policing what is said on the forums for everyone to see.

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

Rowan72 — Tue, 11 Feb 2014 23:25:26 GMT

I checked those forums out after someone here posted about them. Seemed more or less a dead zone, sorry to say. I don't think you and your friend are missing much. But on principle alone; any PM snooping is more like eaves-dropping than moderating. Still, with things as they are these days ... I'd wager they'd still be within their rights. I hope you hear back from someone - could be resulting from technical issues. Or they've hired themselves some rouge mods and should be made aware of either possibility.

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

happygolfcartrider — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 00:26:24 GMT

On 2/11/2014 game-on said:
golfcartrider.... I have posted on both boards... and observed what you have talked about. At first I had the kind of reaction you did, but then I thought about it.... I have a feeling that it would be a waste of money to hire a lawyer. My daughter is a lawyer and she and I talk about all kinds of issues.... she thinks the cost of paying an investigator to look into how the decision was made to "ban" someone and all of the billable hours for a lawyer would be high.

This is nothing but a pastime for people and before any company would put a lot of money into defending themselves they just might close down the boards. That would solve their problems and take away the fun for many people. I wouldn't want to take these forums away from the people who enjoy them so much because my words were poofed or that they might decide to ban me. I really don't need to be on this board this much. I don't have an ax to grind. I would rather give the money to research to save lives or some positive cause.

I urge you to take a look at the bigger picture.

Thank You Game-on. I tend to get to a angry over the little things and yes this is indeed a little thing.

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

happygolfcartrider — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 00:36:23 GMT

On 2/11/2014 Rowan72 said:
I checked those forums out after someone here posted about them. Seemed more or less a dead zone, sorry to say. I don't think you and your friend are missing much. But on principle alone; any PM snooping is more like eaves-dropping than moderating. Still, with things as they are these days ... I'd wager they'd still be within their rights. I hope you hear back from someone - could be resulting from technical issues. Or they've hired themselves some rouge mods and should be made aware of either possibility.

You are so right! They are dead over there because of the police state of their moderators. You can't be negative about anything. They expect everyone to be sunshine and flowers all of the time. The posters are so scared of being banned that they are to the point of being over phony and you can tell it. I tried to liven things up a bit. Just try and give an honest opinion about a show host and wham you are deleted. You are not allowed to mention their hair, clothes, demeaner, facelifts, telling really big fibs about products etc. You are only allowed to talk about the good things about them.

They even posted their guidelines stating that they would "police" everything said and act accordingly.

OK I have had my rant I am so over them. they are not worth my time. Oh I did get a notice that I was banned from the forums, arcades, and a couple of other community related things BUT I am NOT banned from spending my money on products. Go figure. They want my money but not my words.

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

Lindas — Sun, 16 Feb 2014 09:28:24 GMT

My first question is after reading your venting about Hsn..what exactly did you say that upset the forum at Hsn?? I can't imagine Hsn would just kick someone off for nothing. Was it part of the guidelines you violated or did you make some one mad for some reason... I would like to hear both sides of the story before I make any judgements about anyone. I am just wondering, thats all.

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

Pook — Sun, 16 Feb 2014 13:54:07 GMT

Cudos to them not allowing host bashing. Don't see the point in even posting such nonsense about a host - Your honest opinion or not. When posting on a companies private BB, it should just be common sense not to do this unless you want to cause a controversy and stir things up.

I have posted on theirs about products etc and have never had a problem.

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

Yuban3 — Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:47:03 GMT

On 2/16/2014 Pook said:
Cudos to them not allowing host bashing. Don't see the point in even posting such nonsense about a host - Your honest opinion or not. When posting on a companies private BB, it should just be common sense not to do this unless you want to cause a controversy and stir things up.

I have posted on theirs about products etc and have never had a problem.

Agreed. Imagine what it would be like here, if people could not bash Lisa, or Shawn?

Oh my goodness! What would they do with themselves, if they could not bash the hosts?

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

CouponQueen — Sun, 16 Feb 2014 17:23:29 GMT

it sounds like she broke the forum rules by "livening things up..' It is THEIR board and I say good for them for not allowing their staff to be abused and bashed. They are doing a job and if you do not like it..you don't have to tune in, watch, go to their forums and yes spend your money..

I can't imagine having so little to do that I would find it necessary to tune in and then run to their forums to liven it up by bashing their employees..

Re: Heads up about HSN forums

Kachina624 — Sun, 16 Feb 2014 22:17:17 GMT

On 2/11/2014 golfcartrider said:
On 2/11/2014 only shops online said: Don't take it personally. I signed up over there several years ago, and posted just a couple of times about hobbies and sewing. Certainly nothing controversial about that. A few months after my last post, I tried to sign in and it came up that I was banned. I'm sure their website has issues. I really never pursued the problem because it wasn't that important to me. I'm sure that is what your problem is also.

What really bothers me is that they police every word people say even in the Private Messages. They are blatantly violating my and others right to free speech. I have made friends that I talk with on HSN and this really makes me mad.

I am going to talk to an attorney about the situation and I hope to find a hungry one that will let me sue them and get them off their police high horse. Someone needs to put a stop to what is going on over their and I hope I am the one to do it.

Their website, their rules. Your constitutional rights don't apply there. Best to move on.