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    <title>topic Re: The Butler... in Community Chat</title>
    <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483412#M206054</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;SPAN class="quote_author"&gt;On 1/21/2014 &lt;STRONG&gt;WestieLove&lt;/STRONG&gt; said:&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;P&gt;I was really sad to learn this was a fictional account....I really wanted to see a true story on the subject.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;P&gt;Comments about the film - WARNING SPOILERS&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;I was particularly surprised to find out that the beginning - about his mother and father - was not true.  While he did  serve in the house on a plantation growing up - apparently those making the movie felt that was not sufficient to explain his background so they had to make up a much more horrific personal history.  Somehow that seems almost disrespectful to the man himself - as if his story somehow wasn't movie worthy without such significant embellishment.  That would also explain the need to create an older son  with his civil rights involvement - and not just sympathy for the movement, but the need to make him a Freedom rider who suffered beatings etc.  And the need to kill off the son serving in Vietnam.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;I also wondered if this movie was snubbed by the Oscars because the Academy like the portrayal of the butler's older son in the beginning had some issues with someone embracing "domestic servitude" even in the White House- altho the movie does have him "evolve" and gives Oprah the line to the son that "everything we have was provided by that butler" - and demanding the son respect his father.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;Even so, while I haven't seen 12 Years a Slave, I can see where the Academy might be more "comfortable" with its storyline - that even with all that was added to The Butler to bolster its bona fides as depicting the race struggle, it just didn't measure up.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;All of which to say I just think it's sad that Hollywood seems to believe that a true story of a very decent man and his relationships with Presidents (of which we get only snippets) - and which may have had more personal influence on their relations with blacks than all the horror in the daily news, was not worth telling on its own.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;And depicting his wife as having problems with alcohol and having an affair - when in real life she did neither.  Wow that is really disrespectful - altho I guess it was intended to bolster Oprah's chances at an Oscar.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 16:33:27 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>pinkskates4</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-01-22T16:33:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483312#M205999</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Has anyone seen The Butler?  If so, what did you think of it?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:02:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483312#M205999</guid>
      <dc:creator>sophiamarie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T05:02:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483317#M206002</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I finally saw it and was very enjoyable and the acting was excellent.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:03:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483317#M206002</guid>
      <dc:creator>Lila Belle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T05:03:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483322#M206005</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks.  I think I'll watch it over the weekend.  The promos looked promising.  &lt;IMG src="https://community.qvc.com/" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:35:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483322#M206005</guid>
      <dc:creator>sophiamarie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T05:35:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483327#M206008</link>
      <description>I really liked this movie. One of the few good ones for 2013 I thought.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:47:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483327#M206008</guid>
      <dc:creator>Azcowgirl</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T05:47:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483331#M206011</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;For me, it was only OK. Mainly because I couldn't stand watching Oprah act! Not that she was bad---but she was Oprah! Also there are a lot of old film clips ala Forrest Gump. I was disappointed because I wanted to love it!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:48:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483331#M206011</guid>
      <dc:creator>celeste27</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T05:48:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483336#M206014</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I wanted to see Oprah watching the Oprah Winfrey Show in the 90s.  That would've been great.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:51:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483336#M206014</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mellie33</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T05:51:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483341#M206017</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes my husband and I saw it and we thought it was excellent and it should have been up for more awards than it was (is).&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:52:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483341#M206017</guid>
      <dc:creator>Shorty2U</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T05:52:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483347#M206021</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you go to see this movie keep in mind that it is not a documentary.  It is a work of historical fiction. &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:06:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>PAX</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T06:06:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483352#M206024</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I avoid opie like the plague!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:06:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Love my grandkids</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T06:06:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483357#M206027</link>
      <description>No interest in this movie at all.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:29:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483357#M206027</guid>
      <dc:creator>physicsnut</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T06:29:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483362#M206030</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I loved it and highly recommend it. Unless, of course, you don't care for Oprah, in which case, just skip it. &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:59:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483362#M206030</guid>
      <dc:creator>sunala</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T07:59:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483366#M206033</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hands down, ONE OF THE BEST MOVIES EVER!!!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:24:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483366#M206033</guid>
      <dc:creator>RINGER</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T16:24:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483371#M206036</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;SPAN class="quote_author"&gt;On 1/20/2014 &lt;STRONG&gt;Georgie the 5th&lt;/STRONG&gt; said:&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;P&gt;If you go to see this movie keep in mind that it is not a documentary. It is a work of historical fiction.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;P&gt;I really liked the movie, but was surprised to later find out so much was added for the sake of the movie.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;Here's a link to explain the differences- warning SPOILERS&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt; &lt;A href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/16/the-butler-fact-check-how-true-is-this-true-story.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/16/the-butler-fact-check-how-true-is-this-true-story.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:27:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483371#M206036</guid>
      <dc:creator>pinkskates4</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T16:27:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483376#M206039</link>
      <description>Loved it. We rented it this past weekend.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:25:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Catitude</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T17:25:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483381#M206042</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;SPAN class="" quote_author=""&gt;On 1/20/2014 &lt;STRONG&gt;Love my grandkids&lt;/STRONG&gt; said:&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;P&gt;I avoid opie like the plague!&lt;/P&gt; &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;P&gt;I did not know Ron Howard was in this movie.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:34:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483381#M206042</guid>
      <dc:creator>lulu2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T17:34:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483386#M206044</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;SPAN class="quote_author"&gt;On 1/20/2014 &lt;STRONG&gt;sunala&lt;/STRONG&gt; said:&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;P&gt;I loved it and highly recommend it. Unless, of course, you don't care for Oprah, in which case, just skip it.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt; I don't care for Oprah, but I still liked the movie and still thought she did a really fine job.  If I skipped every movie that had an actor that I didn't care for as a person, I would miss a lot of good movies.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;I think it deserved more nominations, but the timing of it's release was lousy.  It was released way too early in the eligibility time frame.....the Academy (and other such groups who bestow these honors) sometimes has a very short memory.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:40:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>CardinalGirl</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-21T17:40:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483391#M206046</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;SPAN class="" quote_author=""&gt;On 1/21/2014 &lt;STRONG&gt;lulu2&lt;/STRONG&gt; said:&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;SPAN class="" quote_author=""&gt;On 1/20/2014 &lt;STRONG&gt;Love my grandkids&lt;/STRONG&gt; said:&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;P&gt;I avoid opie like the plague!&lt;/P&gt; &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;P&gt;I did not know Ron Howard was in this movie.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;P&gt;lulu &lt;IMG src="https://community.qvc.com/" /&gt; good one!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 03:07:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sunala</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-22T03:07:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483396#M206048</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;SPAN class="quote_author"&gt;On 1/21/2014 &lt;STRONG&gt;CardinalGirl_&lt;/STRONG&gt; said:&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;SPAN class="quote_author"&gt;On 1/20/2014 &lt;STRONG&gt;sunala&lt;/STRONG&gt; said:&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;P&gt;I loved it and highly recommend it. Unless, of course, you don't care for Oprah, in which case, just skip it.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt; I don't care for Oprah, but I still liked the movie and still thought she did a really fine job. If I skipped every movie that had an actor that I didn't care for as a person, I would miss a lot of good movies.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;I think it deserved more nominations, but the timing of it's release was lousy. It was released way too early in the eligibility time frame.....the Academy (and other such groups who bestow these honors) sometimes has a very short memory.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;P&gt;I agree.....Oprah was great, even though I can't stand her, so was Forest Whitaker.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;Parts were quite heavy. It's not a lighthearted movie. It's worth renting, IMO.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 06:14:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>BaileyandBella</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-22T06:14:24Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483401#M206050</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I was really sad to learn this was a fictional account....I really wanted to see a true story on the subject.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 06:16:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Teacups</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-22T06:16:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The Butler...</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/The-Butler/m-p/483406#M206052</link>
      <description>Not an Oprah fan. Tried to like the movie but just couldn't get into it. I thought it told an interesting story although not sure how much was fiction. I got distracted by trying to figure out the difference between fact and fiction. And then Oprah's face kept appearing on the screen. Ugh.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:21:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sam29</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-01-22T14:21:47Z</dc:date>
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