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COULDN'T RESIST

tends2dogs — Wed, 01 May 2024 16:58:53 GMT

Just had our 6 month check up for our HVAC. The gentleman knocked on the door when he was done and said, "It's old, but it still looks good."

I said to my DH, "Kind of like us. "

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Nightowlz — Wed, 01 May 2024 17:22:24 GMT

If you need a new AC you might think about getting it this year. If you don't a new one will cost you more money starting Jan 2025.

They are coming out with a new type freon to use in the in AC's which will have to be retrofit to work. This adds on more money to the purchase of the AC.

All the AC guys have to go to school to learn about the new stuff. They also have to buy new equipment to work on them.

I think we will go ahead a buy a new one this year since we have no idea how the new units will cool. Not interested in an ac that doesn't cool like it should.

Our AC guy says you don't want one of the new ones until after they work out all the bugs after they come out? I don't think we want one at all.

As of January 1, 2025, manufacturers will have to start using one of two new A2L refrigerants, R454B or R32, which are required by AIM to have a Global Warming Potential of 750 or less.

This was supposed to happen in 2023 but they moved it to 2024. Now 2025.

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Still Raining — Wed, 01 May 2024 17:48:38 GMT

A couple of houses back, I had a young'un tell me that he had NEVER EVER seen one that old EVER in his (short) life 😂😂😂😂

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Meowingkitty — Wed, 01 May 2024 18:47:21 GMT

We just had a new one installed a couple of weeks ago. The old one was still working but it was 12 years old and the brutal Arizona summers are hard on them.

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ScrapHappy — Wed, 01 May 2024 19:17:22 GMT

@tends2dogs wrote:
Just had our 6 month check up for our HVAC. The gentleman knocked on the door when he was done and said, "It's old, but it still looks good."

I said to my DH, "Kind of like us. "

I've replaced three AC units and 2 furnances. The last one we replaced was in January 2024. We put it off too long. The last time we priced it out before replacing, it went up $2000+. We've been told the best time to buy new HVAC/AC is November to January.

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ciao_bella — Wed, 01 May 2024 20:08:51 GMT

Okay...when I tell you this, you'll shake your head and say..."can't be true", but I promise you it truly is. When we built our house in 1980, we had central a/c units (2) put in and zoned. One for upstairs and the other for downstairs since our house is a 2 story Colonial. We installed two new a/c units. One brand new Trane unit for upstairs and a different name brand for downstairs. I can't recall what the brand name for downstairs was. We got two different brands becasue at the time, my nephew was in the heating/a/c business and was able to get us a discount on both.

Long story short, the downstairs unit lasted about 20 years before it had to be replaced. The upstairs Trane unit was recently replaced 2 years ago (it was still working.) It worked for over 40 years.

I will add that I don't have a furnace, I have baseboard hot water heat and have a boiler, so the a/c units use an 'air handler' and not a furnace to run it. I believe that's why it lasted so long.

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CelticCrafter — Wed, 01 May 2024 21:57:36 GMT

@Nightowlz wrote:
If you need a new AC you might think about getting it this year. If you don't a new one will cost you more money starting Jan 2025.
They are coming out with a new type freon to use in the in AC's which will have to be retrofit to work. This adds on more money to the purchase of the AC.
All the AC guys have to go to school to learn about the new stuff. They also have to buy new equipment to work on them.
I think we will go ahead a buy a new one this year since we have no idea how the new units will cool. Not interested in an ac that doesn't cool like it should.
Our AC guy says you don't want one of the new ones until after they work out all the bugs after they come out? I don't think we want one at all.
As of January 1, 2025, manufacturers will have to start using one of two new A2L refrigerants, R454B or R32, which are required by AIM to have a Global Warming Potential of 750 or less.
This was supposed to happen in 2023 but they moved it to 2024. Now 2025.

@Nightowlz R32 has been around and in use since 2012. My husband was in the HVAC business. The entire system had to be replaced if one half went bad.

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SaveTheTurtles — Thu, 02 May 2024 01:15:08 GMT

@ciao_bella wrote:
Okay...when I tell you this, you'll shake your head and say..."can't be true", but I promise you it truly is. When we built our house in 1980, we had central a/c units (2) put in and zoned. One for upstairs and the other for downstairs since our house is a 2 story Colonial. We installed two new a/c units. One brand new Trane unit for upstairs and a different name brand for downstairs. I can't recall what the brand name for downstairs was. We got two different brands becasue at the time, my nephew was in the heating/a/c business and was able to get us a discount on both.

Long story short, the downstairs unit lasted about 20 years before it had to be replaced. The upstairs Trane unit was recently replaced 2 years ago (it was still working.) It worked for over 40 years.

I will add that I don't have a furnace, I have baseboard hot water heat and have a boiler, so the a/c units use an 'air handler' and not a furnace to run it. I believe that's why it lasted so long.

As they say...Nothing runs like a Trane. 😂

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SaveTheTurtles — Thu, 02 May 2024 01:16:28 GMT

My sons furnace is almost 50 years old. It's running on borrowed time for sure....

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ciao_bella — Thu, 02 May 2024 11:34:07 GMT

@SaveTheTurtles wrote:
@ciao_bella wrote:
Okay...when I tell you this, you'll shake your head and say..."can't be true", but I promise you it truly is. When we built our house in 1980, we had central a/c units (2) put in and zoned. One for upstairs and the other for downstairs since our house is a 2 story Colonial. We installed two new a/c units. One brand new Trane unit for upstairs and a different name brand for downstairs. I can't recall what the brand name for downstairs was. We got two different brands becasue at the time, my nephew was in the heating/a/c business and was able to get us a discount on both.

Long story short, the downstairs unit lasted about 20 years before it had to be replaced. The upstairs Trane unit was recently replaced 2 years ago (it was still working.) It worked for over 40 years.

I will add that I don't have a furnace, I have baseboard hot water heat and have a boiler, so the a/c units use an 'air handler' and not a furnace to run it. I believe that's why it lasted so long.
As they say...Nothing runs like a Trane. 😂

@SaveTheTurtles Lol...so true! That 'Trane' didn't want to stop!

Funny thing is that it was still running well, but I was afraid it might crash in the middle of the blazing heat and I wouldn't be able to get a new unit put in right away b/c of the busy HVAC season. It was like losing an old, dear friend when it was taken out.

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Nightowlz — Thu, 02 May 2024 18:49:39 GMT

@SaveTheTurtles wrote:
My sons furnace is almost 50 years old. It's running on borrowed time for sure....

@SaveTheTurtles

My MIL has a 50 year old refrigerator? LOL!!!

It still works.

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Nightowlz — Thu, 02 May 2024 18:54:19 GMT

@CelticCrafter

I was wondering what R32 was since I have never heard of that one.

A few years back when I was reading about the R454B I thought I don't want one of those. My AC guy said last year while at the house they had not made an ac unit for the new R454B yet?

Even though ours still works think we will switch it out.

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SaveTheTurtles — Fri, 03 May 2024 00:42:20 GMT

@Nightowlz wrote:
@SaveTheTurtles wrote:
My sons furnace is almost 50 years old. It's running on borrowed time for sure....
@SaveTheTurtles

My MIL has a 50 year old refrigerator? LOL!!!
It still works.

I'm not trying to one up you or anything, really I'm not...but I just remembered my parents GE stove that works great, better than any that you can buy today and it is from the late 50's. We just sold the house as they are both gone now and that stove went with it! 😊