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New Report Out On Smoking

NoelSeven — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:12:49 GMT

Stating that "smoking has contributed to the premature deaths of an estimated 20 million Americans since the publication of the groundbreaking report in 1964."

Two and a half million of those deaths were related to second hand smoke.

And in a "new report, the government’s top doctor is acknowledging that smoking can also lead to diabetes, liver cancer, erectile dysfunction, and ectopic pregnancy."

The good news is that smoking rates continue to drop.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/01/17/3181271/smoking-americans-20-million/

Re: New Report Out On Smoking

LilacTree — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:16:21 GMT

OMG, my beloved sister, who smoked for 60 years, had an "ectoptic pregnancy" in her late 30s which was almost fatal!! Of course we never attributed it to smoking. She had three other children and smoked during all of her pregnancies. This was in the sixties.

Re: New Report Out On Smoking

NoelSeven — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:20:18 GMT

On 1/18/2014 Ford1224 said:
OMG, my beloved sister, who smoked for 60 years, had an "ectoptic pregnancy" in her late 30s which was almost fatal!! Of course we never attributed it to smoking. She had three other children and smoked during all of her pregnancies. This was in the sixties.

Hi Ford,

I don't think we can automatically assume it was from smoking, but it does give one pause.

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wildcat fan — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:03:30 GMT

I grew up in a tobacco state, and my experiences with second hand smoke has created issues (asthma and allergies) for me. My parents and siblings never smoked. I was exposed to it at school and at grandparents. We had smoking areas in junior high and high school. Every classroom building at the University of Kentucky was filled a cloud of smoke in the hallways. I would walk into class with red eyes, runny nose, and I would cough and sneeze throughout class. I'd feel better when I went outside in the fresh air. In grades 8-12, the designated smoking areas were outside, but the doors would stay open because the smokers wanted to stand in the doorway due to hot or cold temperatures. Complaining to school personnel was pointless because most teachers and principals smoked and supplemented their income as tobacco farmers. UK's policy to allow smoking in classroom buildings was a nod to the tobacco industry. I'm glad to see the reports about second hand smoke because they changed policy at schools, but I think those in charge should have done something without all the publicity and research.

Re: New Report Out On Smoking

LilacTree — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:04:42 GMT

On 1/18/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 1/18/2014 Ford1224 said:
OMG, my beloved sister, who smoked for 60 years, had an "ectoptic pregnancy" in her late 30s which was almost fatal!! Of course we never attributed it to smoking. She had three other children and smoked during all of her pregnancies. This was in the sixties.

Hi Ford,

I don't think we can automatically assume it was from smoking, but it does give one pause.

Yes, that's what I mean. We didn't know anything then.

Re: New Report Out On Smoking

NoelSeven — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:06:10 GMT

On 1/18/2014 Ford1224 said:
On 1/18/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 1/18/2014 Ford1224 said:
OMG, my beloved sister, who smoked for 60 years, had an "ectoptic pregnancy" in her late 30s which was almost fatal!! Of course we never attributed it to smoking. She had three other children and smoked during all of her pregnancies. This was in the sixties.

Hi Ford,

I don't think we can automatically assume it was from smoking, but it does give one pause.

Yes, that's what I mean. We didn't know anything then.

You're right, there was a lot of effort to obfuscate.

Re: New Report Out On Smoking

NoelSeven — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:07:27 GMT

On 1/18/2014 wildcat fan said: I grew up in a tobacco state, and my experiences with second hand smoke has created issues (asthma and allergies) for me. My parents and siblings never smoked. I was exposed to it at school and at grandparents. We had smoking areas in junior high and high school. Every classroom building at the University of Kentucky was filled a cloud of smoke in the hallways. I would walk into class with red eyes, runny nose, and I would cough and sneeze throughout class. I'd feel better when I went outside in the fresh air. In grades 8-12, the designated smoking areas were outside, but the doors would stay open because the smokers wanted to stand in the doorway due to hot or cold temperatures. Complaining to school personnel was pointless because most teachers and principals smoked and supplemented their income as tobacco farmers. UK's policy to allow smoking in classroom buildings was a nod to the tobacco industry. I'm glad to see the reports about second hand smoke because they changed policy at schools, but I think those in charge should have done something without all the publicity and research.

Thanks for sharing that, wildcat fan

Re: New Report Out On Smoking

chickenbutt — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:11:19 GMT

Hey Noel! Not surprising, eh? (either thing - the report or those who always have to threadcrap every single subject - ha!)

Hope this finds you well.

Re: New Report Out On Smoking

LilacTree — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:16:44 GMT

On 1/18/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 1/18/2014 Ford1224 said:
On 1/18/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 1/18/2014 Ford1224 said:
OMG, my beloved sister, who smoked for 60 years, had an "ectoptic pregnancy" in her late 30s which was almost fatal!! Of course we never attributed it to smoking. She had three other children and smoked during all of her pregnancies. This was in the sixties.

Hi Ford,

I don't think we can automatically assume it was from smoking, but it does give one pause.

Yes, that's what I mean. We didn't know anything then.

You're right, there was a lot of effort to obfuscate.

And both of my parents smoked. My poor mom died from it at age 49. My father had quit, but used to smoke those little cigars which, IMO, were probably just as bad. We never even smelled the smoke we were so used to it. Practically everyone smoked in those days.

My first husband also smoked, and our children were exposed to that. He didn't stop smoking until it almost killed him too.

I smoked for "effect" when I was 16 and given the "privilege" as a gift for my birthday. Fortunately for me, I never liked it and never got hooked on it. By that time my younger sister had been sneaking smoking since she was 12 and never stopped. Exactly 60 years later, at age 72, it got her, as she always knew it would, but had never any intention of stopping.

Re: New Report Out On Smoking

NoelSeven — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:18:08 GMT

On 1/18/2014 chickenbutt said:
Hey Noel! Not surprising, eh? (either thing - the report or those who always have to threadcrap every single subject - ha!)

Hope this finds you well.

Hi CB

Right, no surprise. I'm doing pretty good, I hope you are, also!

Re: New Report Out On Smoking

NoelSeven — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:22:37 GMT

On 1/18/2014 Ford1224 said:

And both of my parents smoked. My poor mom died from it at age 49. My father had quit, but used to smoke those little cigars which, IMO, were probably just as bad. We never even smelled the smoke we were so used to it. Practically everyone smoked in those days.

My first husband also smoked, and our children were exposed to that. He didn't stop smoking until it almost killed him too.

I smoked for "effect" when I was 16 and given the "privilege" as a gift for my birthday. Fortunately for me, I never liked it and never got hooked on it. By that time my younger sister had been sneaking smoking since she was 12 and never stopped. Exactly 60 years later, at age 72, it got her, as she always knew it would, but had never any intention of stopping.

Both of my parents smoked, also. I started in high school and smoked for several years.

I don't "revile it," but I do think the facts should be out there so people can make an informed choice.

Re: New Report Out On Smoking

RainCityGirl — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:29:00 GMT

I grew up in secondary smoke as my dad smoked a pipe....and he inhaled. He died at 79, having only quit smoking the last 10 years of his life. I have no doubt his life would have been longer had he not smoked for 50 years. It started for him with cigs. He died of heart disease. I have had a long history of respiratory problems, including asthma. I can't prove the second hand smoke caused that, but I'm sure it didn't help. When I bought my first house, I would not allow any smoking there. My dad was always polite about it and either went outside or would sit on the floor in front of the fireplace and blow his pipe smoke up the chimney. I never understood why a man who had scar tissue on his lung from childhood tuberculosis was never given adamant orders from his lung specialist to stop smoking, but it was a time when even doctors smoked. He was never told to quit until in his late 60's his blood pressure was rising. He got Nicorettes gum, and after 50 years, he was done with nicotine in two months. Never smoked again. I could have had him in my life another 10 years or more had he quit in his 40's.

Re: New Report Out On Smoking

Burnsite — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:29:09 GMT

Hi, Noel, I am glad they continue to publish the risks. I believe that smoking is also linked to pancreatic cancer, bladder cancer and some kinds of brain tumors.

Re: New Report Out On Smoking

LilacTree — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:38:05 GMT

On 1/18/2014 RainCityGirl said:
I grew up in secondary smoke as my dad smoked a pipe....and he inhaled. He died at 79, having only quit smoking the last 10 years of his life. I have no doubt his life would have been longer had he not smoked for 50 years. It started for him with cigs. He died of heart disease. I have had a long history of respiratory problems, including asthma. I can't prove the second hand smoke caused that, but I'm sure it didn't help. When I bought my first house, I would not allow any smoking there. My dad was always polite about it and either went outside or would sit on the floor in front of the fireplace and blow his pipe smoke up the chimney. I never understood why a man who had scar tissue on his lung from childhood tuberculosis was never given adamant orders from his lung specialist to stop smoking, but it was a time when even doctors smoked. He was never told to quit until in his late 60's his blood pressure was rising. He got Nicorettes gum, and after 50 years, he was done with nicotine in two months. Never smoked again. I could have had him in my life another 10 years or more had he quit in his 40's.

What a ripoff raincitygirl. That's how I feel about my mother and sister. My father did live to age 83, so we had him a reasonable amount of time. My mother was always frail, but my sister was a "bull," she was so strong all of her life and that's why I think she lasted as long as she did. She would have definitely outlived me had she not smoked (and drank beer also).

Yes, the tobacco industry has ripped off millions of us.

Re: New Report Out On Smoking

NoelSeven — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:43:51 GMT

On 1/18/2014 RainCityGirl said:
I grew up in secondary smoke as my dad smoked a pipe....and he inhaled. He died at 79, having only quit smoking the last 10 years of his life. I have no doubt his life would have been longer had he not smoked for 50 years. It started for him with cigs. He died of heart disease. I have had a long history of respiratory problems, including asthma. I can't prove the second hand smoke caused that, but I'm sure it didn't help. When I bought my first house, I would not allow any smoking there. My dad was always polite about it and either went outside or would sit on the floor in front of the fireplace and blow his pipe smoke up the chimney. I never understood why a man who had scar tissue on his lung from childhood tuberculosis was never given adamant orders from his lung specialist to stop smoking, but it was a time when even doctors smoked. He was never told to quit until in his late 60's his blood pressure was rising. He got Nicorettes gum, and after 50 years, he was done with nicotine in two months. Never smoked again. I could have had him in my life another 10 years or more had he quit in his 40's.

I'm sorry about your dad, RCG.

I feel the same about my parents, the smoking had to have had an effect on their health, especially my father.

I have asthma, also, and all that second hand smoke when I was young surely didn't do me any good.