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Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

Marp2 — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:37:37 GMT

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A decade of lawmaking by U.S. states to ensure consumers are told when their data has been hacked still lets companies such as Target Corp wait weeks or even months to disclose security breaches.

Forty-six of 50 U.S. states have passed laws requiring disclosure, starting with California in 2002, but the laws vary in terms of when and how notice must be given, and most states allow for delays to investigate the intrusion.

Calls for federal action, including by the U.S. Federal Trade Commission, have gone unheeded by Congress. And guidelines to safeguard investors in public companies also do not give clear guidance on timing and do not require disclosures that would compromise a company's cyber security.

MORE: http://news.yahoo.com/u-companies-allowed-delay-disclosure-data-breaches-195219835.html

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

Lila Belle — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 03:55:25 GMT

This would be a worthwhile matter for Rep. Issa and the Congressional Oversight Committee to investigate.

One third of the country has been affected.

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

pinkskates4 — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 04:00:42 GMT

On 1/16/2014 Lila Belle said:
This would be a worthwhile matter for Rep. Issa and the Congressional Oversight Committee to investigate.

One third of the country has been affected.

And how many are/have been/will be affected by lack of security on the ACA website?

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

terrier3 — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 04:03:31 GMT

On 1/16/2014 Dagna said:
On 1/16/2014 Lila Belle said:
This would be a worthwhile matter for Rep. Issa and the Congressional Oversight Committee to investigate.

One third of the country has been affected.

And how many are/have been/will be affected by lack of security on the ACA website?

No one actually.

They don't even ask many questions. Your application is cross referenced with your income tax return by them...you don't enter that info on the form.

I know because I signed up thru the NY exchange.

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

scotttie — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 04:03:39 GMT

On 1/16/2014 Dagna said:
On 1/16/2014 Lila Belle said:
This would be a worthwhile matter for Rep. Issa and the Congressional Oversight Committee to investigate.

One third of the country has been affected.

And how many are/have been/will be affected by lack of security on the ACA website?

A nightmare.

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

terrier3 — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 04:05:45 GMT

I have heard them go on and on about all the sensitive information on the ACA application.

There is no sensitive info on the application - they don't need to know your medical history as some claim, because ALL are insured...there is no sensitive info on the form.

Calm down.

It was a dream...not a nightmare.

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

Lila Belle — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 04:06:21 GMT

On 1/16/2014 Dagna said:
On 1/16/2014 Lila Belle said:
This would be a worthwhile matter for Rep. Issa and the Congressional Oversight Committee to investigate.

One third of the country has been affected.

And how many are/have been/will be affected by lack of security on the ACA website?

I don't know of any. Have you got a number ?

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

terrier3 — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 04:07:34 GMT

On 1/16/2014 Lila Belle said:
On 1/16/2014 Dagna said:
On 1/16/2014 Lila Belle said:
This would be a worthwhile matter for Rep. Issa and the Congressional Oversight Committee to investigate.

One third of the country has been affected.

And how many are/have been/will be affected by lack of security on the ACA website?

I don't know of any. Have you got a number ?

I know - 0.

There is no sensitive information on the form. It is like applying for SS - they already have your income records, they don't need to get them from you.

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

pinkskates4 — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 05:33:18 GMT

On 1/16/2014 terrier2 said:
On 1/16/2014 Lila Belle said:
On 1/16/2014 Dagna said:
On 1/16/2014 Lila Belle said:
This would be a worthwhile matter for Rep. Issa and the Congressional Oversight Committee to investigate.

One third of the country has been affected.

And how many are/have been/will be affected by lack of security on the ACA website?

I don't know of any. Have you got a number ?

I know - 0.

There is no sensitive information on the form. It is like applying for SS - they already have your income records, they don't need to get them from you.

By design, Healthcare.gov interfaces with numerous federal, state, and commercial sites and databases,” the letter said. “The data passing through the Healthcare.gov website is one of the largest collections of personal information ever assembled, linking information from seven different federal agencies along with state agencies and government contractors.”

The site transmits the personal information of marketplace shoppers—including Social Security numbers, birthdays, incomes, home mortgages, and addresses—through its “data hub.”

“Although the website itself does not retain personal data,” the letter explains, “it transmits it to other sites.”

“Without adequate security measures, Healthcare.gov essentially becomes a portal for online criminals to access even more sensitive, personal data maintained by the IRS, state agencies, and insurance companies that share information with the website,” the committee said. “The size and scope of information sharing alone raises significant security concerns.”

http://freebeacon.com/congress-presses-o****-on-healthcare-gov-security-risks/

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

Lila Belle — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 05:39:49 GMT

How about a non-biased, non-conservative source, Dagna ?

Issa and his staff couldn't uncover any breach and anything this guy says is only talking points for conspiracy theorists.

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

Melania — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 05:43:02 GMT

....and I thought this could be a helpful discussion. The dog with a bone never quits.

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

pinkskates4 — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 05:45:29 GMT

On 1/16/2014 Lila Belle said:
How about a non-biased, non-conservative source, Dagna ?

Issa and his staff couldn't uncover any breach and anything this guy says is only talking points for conspiracy theorists.

I used that cite because it specified some of the info available. Since Terrier insists there is no "sensitive" data, I'm sure if I had mentioned SSN, income, birthday address etc. (certainly enough for identity theft) on my own, I'd have been called a liar again.

You can google and see CBS and other cites you'd probably consider more acceptable reporting the security problems.

So are you claiming that this information is not on the site - and apparently available to hackers?

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

Lila Belle — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 05:49:05 GMT

With 110 million people affected by the Target breach you'd think the Oversight guys would want to get answers for their constituents, wouldn't you ?

I shopped at Target, used my Red Card, and got a new bank card and cut the target card up.

I haven't gotten an email from Target with any apology, only emails with their deals and ads.

What has been the experience of other Target shoppers here ?

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

Lila Belle — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 05:53:12 GMT

On 1/16/2014 Dagna said:
On 1/16/2014 Lila Belle said:
How about a non-biased, non-conservative source, Dagna ?

Issa and his staff couldn't uncover any breach and anything this guy says is only talking points for conspiracy theorists.

I used that cite because it specified some of the info available. Since Terrier insists there is no "sensitive" data, I'm sure if I had mentioned SSN, income, birthday address etc. (certainly enough for identity theft) on my own, I'd have been called a liar again.

You can google and see CBS and other cites you'd probably consider more acceptable reporting the security problems.

So are you claiming that this information is not on the site - and apparently available to hackers?

lol

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

pinkskates4 — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 06:19:52 GMT

On 1/16/2014 Lila Belle said:
With 110 million people affected by the Target breach you'd think the Oversight guys would want to get answers for their constituents, wouldn't you ?

I shopped at Target, used my Red Card, and got a new bank card and cut the target card up.

I haven't gotten an email from Target with any apology, only emails with their deals and ads.

What has been the experience of other Target shoppers here ?

Using your logic, since nothing has happened to you - what's the problem?

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

cabbi — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 06:20:01 GMT

I am equally concerned that I don't hear about salmonella or listeria in my salad or e-coli in my ground beef till weeks after I was ill or died from eating it. This new crisis again tells me that we little insignificant bugs = aka the public, don't matter so much to corporations. Who, by the way would shrivel and die without us.

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

Cakers1 — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 21:06:04 GMT

You do have to submit proof of income to apply. You can complete your application, get your subsidy if you qualify, enroll with a health insurance plan but you will still need to submit proof of income or the application, and thus your insurance, will be cancelled.

https://www.healthcare.gov/how-can-i-get-ready-to-enroll-in-the-marketplace/

Re: Why It Takes So Long To Learn About Data Breaches

HULAGIRL — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 22:15:32 GMT

And our government doesn't have to tell us at all if our info has been compromised by going on healthcare.gov to sign up!! How da ya like them apples????? They're not required to do it!