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Opinions Please

ScrapHappy — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 01:16:43 GMT

My daughter works at a popular apparrel store at the mall. She will be there a year in July. It is not a very well run store. Nobody stays very long including managers and assistant managers. No one my daughter started with works there anymore. She has found out the only managers and assistant managers receive raises. I'm wondering is this the norm? If you have teenagers who work, do they receive a yearly raise?

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roeroe1005 — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 01:22:59 GMT

Well, that explains why sales help do not stay there. Your daughter, even as a part timer, is entitled to a raise just as much as the managers/asst. managers do.

The raise would not be much, but she is entitled.

Wonder what your state's Dept. of Labor would think of no raises for the sales help??

I hope she moves onto another place also.

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Desert Lily — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 01:32:39 GMT

The State may have a minimum wage law, but I seriously doubt that they have any power to interfere in individual companies' raise policies.

Companies often base raises on evaluations that might be annual or semi-annual, or they may or may not have a policy for wage increases. Besides that, the retailer might not be pulling in a profit to afford for employees to have raises.

Perhaps your daughter could contact the human resources department about a wage increase or ask her supevisor. I wish her the best.

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spumoni99 — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 01:33:29 GMT

@roeroe1005 wrote:
Well, that explains why sales help do not stay there. Your daughter, even as a part timer, is entitled to a raise just as much as the managers/asst. managers do.

The raise would not be much, but she is entitled.

Wonder what your state's Dept. of Labor would think of no raises for the sales help??

I hope she moves onto another place also.

I don't think the fair labor standards act cares one way or the other about workers getting raises.

I would advise your daughter to use the year experience to get a better job.

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phoenixbrd — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 01:37:45 GMT

I would think this answer depends on the business. Is she working part time? If not, is she focused on a future career. Is she interested in pursuing training or education? If this is a temporary part time job, I wouldn't be too concerned about the raise issue. Preparation for her future work choice is primary. Kudos to her for working as a teenager and for you being a supportive mom.

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Stray — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:01:49 GMT

Raises aren’t mandatory but the minimum wage is a requirement

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Love my grandkids — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:15:52 GMT

@roeroe1005 There are no labor laws that entitle anyone to a raise. Minimum wage yes. Raises are up to the empoyer only. I don't know where you got that idea but it's wrong.

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Carmie — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:17:25 GMT

I don't know what your daughter makes an hour and if it is fair or not.

My youngest granddaughter who just graduated from high school has a part time job working making food/serving at one of those fancy gas stations/food markets. She's worked there for a few months now on weekends.

She is heading off to college in July and wanted some money to spend for her first couple of semesters.

I was shocked to hear she makes $18 an hour starting wage. IMO, That's a lot of money for a teen to make sandwiches and pop food into a microwave oven.

There are part time jobs out there that pay well. It doesn't hurt to look around.

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Kachina624 — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:18:33 GMT

@ScrapHappy Has she asked for a raise? If she wants something, she needs to ask for it and present a case as being a loyal, dependable employee. If they refuse....well, there are plenty of jobs out there where she'd be appreciated. She should start looking.

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GenXmuse — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:27:59 GMT

I would think after a year, she should have received a raise by now. Maybe she should check in with either of the managers and ask about a one year performance review and raise consideration. I think with a year under her belt she could go somewhere else. I don't know what she makes but she could look into Target. My daughter worked part time there and liked it.

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Trailrun23 — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:34:47 GMT

I know many similar stores are run the same way; it is a revolving door of employees and management people. The raises are minimum and am sure the younger workers don't get raises, but if she has been working there for a year in July, sounds like she deserves one for at least not leaving and showing some loyalty to the company.

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roeroe1005 — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:47:06 GMT

Ohhh, okay. I seem to be very mis-informed!

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ScrapHappy — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:22:02 GMT

@roeroe1005 wrote:
Well, that explains why sales help do not stay there. Your daughter, even as a part timer, is entitled to a raise just as much as the managers/asst. managers do.

The raise would not be much, but she is entitled.

Wonder what your state's Dept. of Labor would think of no raises for the sales help??

I hope she moves onto another place also.

The store just got a new manager. I mean brand new, she's still taking classes. My daughter noticed that since the new manager started, she wasn't getting any hours. She found out today that the her manager thought she worked for another store. NOTE: the store my daughter works out has been so short of help, they've been pulling staff from other stores to help. But, when this new manager started she did ask my daughter for her availability. Yep, that bad there.

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ScrapHappy — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:24:16 GMT

@Desert Lily wrote:
The State may have a minimum wage law, but I seriously doubt that they have any power to interfere in individual companies' raise policies.

Companies often base raises on evaluations that might be annual or semi-annual, or they may or may not have a policy for wage increases. Besides that, the retailer might not be pulling in a profit to afford for employees to have raises.

Perhaps your daughter could contact the human resources department about a wage increase or ask her supevisor. I wish her the best.

From what my daughter has heard, they don't even get an evaluation. The manager that hired her when she started last year left soon after. She told my daughter that she tried to complain to corporate about the district manager because of lack of evaluations and poor to no raises.

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ScrapHappy — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:26:21 GMT

@spumoni99 wrote:
@roeroe1005 wrote:
Well, that explains why sales help do not stay there. Your daughter, even as a part timer, is entitled to a raise just as much as the managers/asst. managers do.

The raise would not be much, but she is entitled.

Wonder what your state's Dept. of Labor would think of no raises for the sales help??

I hope she moves onto another place also.

I don't think the fair labor standards act cares one way or the other about workers getting raises.

I would advise your daughter to use the year experience to get a better job.

She's interested in another store in the mall, the problem is that store is owned by the bigger store she already works for. Chances are they don't get raises either. But we still tell her there are other places to go.

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ScrapHappy — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:29:40 GMT

@phoenixbrd wrote:
I would think this answer depends on the business. Is she working part time? If not, is she focused on a future career. Is she interested in pursuing training or education? If this is a temporary part time job, I wouldn't be too concerned about the raise issue. Preparation for her future work choice is primary. Kudos to her for working as a teenager and for you being a supportive mom.

When school is in session, she was working mostly Friday after school, Saturdays and some Sundays. She was hoping to put in more hours over the summer, then the assistant manager get fired, the manager quit and the district manager quit, though most think she got fired. She will be going to college in the Fall 2023 but it's a job that others who had gone away to college would come back to for summer work. She also wanted to work, not only for the experience, discounts on clothes and money but her high school counselor said it looked good on her college resume.

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ScrapHappy — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:31:15 GMT

@Carmie wrote:
I don't know what your daughter makes an hour and if it is fair or not.

My youngest granddaughter who just graduated from high school has a part time job working making food/serving at one of those fancy gas stations/food markets. She's worked there for a few months now on weekends.

She is heading off to college in July and wanted some money to spend for her first couple of semesters.

I was shocked to hear she makes $18 an hour starting wage. IMO, That's a lot of money for a teen to make sandwiches and pop food into a microwave oven.

There are part time jobs out there that pay well. It doesn't hurt to look around.

She makes a little of $9/hour. When she started working there and hearing from others who have been there, they'd complain about the low pay and no raises and that they could get better pay elsewhere.

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ScrapHappy — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:35:09 GMT

@Kachina624 wrote:
@ScrapHappy Has she asked for a raise? If she wants something, she needs to ask for it and present a case as being a loyal, dependable employee. If they refuse....well, there are plenty of jobs out there where she'd be appreciated. She should start looking.

She just got a new manager. Brand new, she's still taking classes. My daughter noticed that when this new manager started, she wasn't getting any hours. Found out today that the new manager thought my daughter worked for another store. NOTE: So many people have quit at where my daughter works (even the assistant manager, manager and district manager) that they pull people from other stores at other malls to work there. So, the new manager doesn't even know who works for her. She plans on asking/inquiring about a raise in July when her one year comes around. She is the only one still there from when she started.

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Kachina624 — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:37:06 GMT

@ScrapHappy Fast food workers here are starting at about $15./hr. She may scoff at this work but if she seriously wants to make money, it's not in retail.

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ScrapHappy — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:37:25 GMT

@GenXmuse wrote:
I would think after a year, she should have received a raise by now. Maybe she should check in with either of the managers and ask about a one year performance review and raise consideration. I think with a year under her belt she could go somewhere else. I don't know what she makes but she could look into Target. My daughter worked part time there and liked it.

From the sound of it, nobody except managers and assistant managers receive raises. That's why everyone left. She just got a new manager, who is still taking classes to be a manager. My daughter plans on bringing this up when her one year comes around in July.