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What If the Situation Were Reversed?

Sooner — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 17:54:27 GMT

Not asking for just right and wrong. But I would like to know what you would think, and think other people would say if Charles had had an affair with Diana while married to Camilla--say in the beginning. Reverse the situation.

Since Diana had affairs with a number of married men, also think about that. And how much do you think the way these two women look very different would play into the gossip?

I just think it's an interesting topic for discussion. No more point to it than that.

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

deepwaterdotter — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 17:59:55 GMT

The Seventh Commandment applies in every situation, the Lord doesn't state exceptions.

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

FranandZoe — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:10:40 GMT

Diana had affairs to get back at Charles and because she needed the attention.

I think it's time everyone got over it all. Charles and Camilla were in love for years - they were meant to be together. Charles was forced to marry Diana or at least not permitted to marry Camilla. For various reasons.

It wasn't like Charles was "having affairs." He was in love with Camilla - he loved her. He would never have had an affair if he'd been permitted to be with/marry Camilla to begin with.

I'm happy Charles and Camilla finally ended up together.

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

beach-mom — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:18:44 GMT

Interesting discussion @Sooner!

In my book, any affair is wrong. I don't think members of the royal family think so.

Had the tables been turned, and C&C were married with children at a younger age, then beautiful Diana came into the picture. . . the press would have had a field day!

We all know Charles was crazy about Camilla. But she wanted him only as a friend at first; she wanted Andrew. Charles honored his vows for about 5 years. It wasn't until his friends realized how unhappy he was and reached out to Camilla to help him that they both broke their vows.

But they should have postponed getting together until they were both divorced.

We all also know Charles had to get going and marry someone suitable. Camilla was already married, and she wouldn't have been suitable back then anyway!

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

KarenQVC — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:21:49 GMT

Seriously, the thought of any 2 women fighting over Charles is disgusting.

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

beckyb1012 — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:24:53 GMT

It would still be wrong. Interesting when you think back to Diana's comment "there were three of us in the marriage." It really as been the case with King Charles and Queen Camilla's marriage. Still the same three, but in the form of Diana's memory and legacy.

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

lgfan — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:24:54 GMT

@KarenQVC "Seriously, the thought of any 2 women fighting over Charles is disgusting."

I almost spit out my water. Thanks for the laugh.

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

Coastalcarolina — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:30:55 GMT

I think 99% of his appeal was the crown. 😳

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

Desertdi — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:48:50 GMT

The Queen Mother and Diana's grandmother (pals) should have kept their meddling noses out of "the arrangement"....and left Charles to pick out his own wife.

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

BlueFinch — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:43:33 GMT

My take, I think if Charles had been married to Camilla and had an affair with Diana, that most would have been livid with him for doing so.

He would have been accused of wanting Diana because she was good arm candy, due to her youth and beauty. We would have been hearing moans of --- poor Camilla.

So, either way, it would have been judged harshly. As it should have been. Some marriages don't work. That's fine, but settle things, then move on. Show some respect.

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

scatcat — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:44:31 GMT

I only opened this topic because I thought it was going to be about something totally different.

I don't understand all the interest in the royal family. They are the Kardashians of the UK, with a humanitarian twist

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

QVCkitty1 — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:45:11 GMT

Well to those who are married how would you have felt if you were young and inexperienced and in love with your husband, and learned he loved another woman. Not only that , but you gave him two children , and he never even hid the fact that you were not his choice. You can try and spin Charles and Camilla into the love story of the ages, but the same people who talk about duty when criticizing Harry, may be willing to give Charles a pass. It's a tragedy how the story ended, and no one comes off looking good, ( including the Queen ), but I will always see C & C as a tawdry pair and not much of a king and queen.

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

beckyb1012 — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:47:35 GMT

@Desertdi wrote:
The Queen Mother and Camilla's grandmother (pals) should have kept their meddling noses out of "the arrangement"....and left Charles to pick out his own wife.

I believe it was Diana's grandmother Ruth Roche, Baroness Fermoy who worked behind the scenes with the Queen Mum to get those Charles and Di together.

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

Desertdi — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:50:27 GMT

@beckyb1012 wrote:
@Desertdi wrote:
The Queen Mother and Camilla's grandmother (pals) should have kept their meddling noses out of "the arrangement"....and left Charles to pick out his own wife.
I believe it was Diana's grandmother Ruth Roche, Baroness Fermoy who worked behind the scenes with the Queen Mum to get those Charles and Di together.

@beckyb1012 I had already corrected that. di

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

Janey2 — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:52:40 GMT

@QVCkitty1 I don't buy the "young" and "inexperienced" excuse. Diana lived in that world. I bet she knew exactly what she was getting into by marrying Charles. I might be the only person on the planet who never trusted Diana and thought she was a big nothing.

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

beckyb1012 — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:55:17 GMT

@Desertdi wrote:
@beckyb1012 wrote:
@Desertdi wrote:
The Queen Mother and Camilla's grandmother (pals) should have kept their meddling noses out of "the arrangement"....and left Charles to pick out his own wife.
I believe it was Diana's grandmother Ruth Roche, Baroness Fermoy who worked behind the scenes with the Queen Mum to get those Charles and Di together.
@beckyb1012 I had already corrected that. di

Speaking of "grandmothers" in the past few weeks I have been thinking of Alice Keppel, Camilla's great-grandmother. Can you imagine what she would be thinking right now? They say her relationship was so strong with King Edward that Queen Alexandra let her come to his deathbed.

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

kaydee50 — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:55:54 GMT

To me it's a sad comment on Charles who was almost 30??? and didn't have the *** to marry the "woman he loved" as one of his older relatives had. I don't think he would have had to give up his right to the crown. But be honest and don't give in to the pressure of grandmothers???? Is that true??

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

sugar plum — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:56:55 GMT

@scatcat wrote:

"I only opened this topic because I thought it was going to be about something totally different."

I did too. LOL I don't understand it either. The only reason I can see is that it gives many people so much pleasure.

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

Isobel Archer — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 19:02:40 GMT

@Janey2 wrote:
@QVCkitty1 I don't buy the "young" and "inexperienced" excuse. Diana lived in that world. I bet she knew exactly what she was getting into by marrying Charles. I might be the only person on the planet who never trusted Diana and thought she was a big nothing.

I think she was very manipulative. She definitely presented the beautiful "peoples' princess" persona to the public, but behind the scenes she apparently was very different.

The whole "spare" issue started with her telling the kids that William would be King and Harry wouldn't. Will (as a child) said he didn't want to be and Harry said he'd do it then. She told this story - laughingly - over and over. Clearly Harry didn't get the joke.

So she tried to kill herself 5 times. Really - or was this just more attention grabbing.

She announced to the press that Charles was "jealous" of the attention she got (as Meghan now claims as well). Who does that?

Apparently she had affairs first - at least two before Charles had his - but again - she's the victim and she had to tell the world all about it.

Re: What If the Situation Were Reversed?

Mersha — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 19:03:21 GMT

Sad...Diana has been dead for 26 years and STILL being dragged through the mud for perceived issues.