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chessygal — Mon, 10 Apr 2023 14:30:37 GMT

Here is the scepter Queen Camilla will hold at the crowning of King Charles. I think it's classy:

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Desertdi — Mon, 10 Apr 2023 14:43:09 GMT

I wouldn't mind having a cane like that (minus the bird)...

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beckyb1012 — Mon, 10 Apr 2023 14:46:02 GMT

It is lovely, I like it very much.

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sunshine45 — Mon, 10 Apr 2023 14:46:57 GMT

it is very pretty.

is the bird supposed to hold any special significance or be any particular type of bird?

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ValuSkr — Mon, 10 Apr 2023 14:48:45 GMT

I love it! Is it an heirloom or did she buy it new for the occasion?

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4kitties — Mon, 10 Apr 2023 14:48:50 GMT

Is this the ivory one that may be a source of controversy?

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beckyb1012 — Mon, 10 Apr 2023 14:56:59 GMT

@4kitties wrote:
Is this the ivory one that may be a source of controversy?

The below taken from an article in the Independent published 17 hours ago.

The ivory staff which Camilla will hold was made in 1685 for Queen Mary of Modena, wife of James II. She was the first Queen Consort to participate in a coronation ceremony following the restoration of the monarchy in 1660.

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4kitties — Mon, 10 Apr 2023 15:07:51 GMT

@beckyb1012

I saw an article mentioning it this morning, I think in The Daily Mail. But I did not open and read the entire article.

Thank you for the info! Will be interesting to see if there will be any controversy about it.

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chessygal — Mon, 10 Apr 2023 15:31:56 GMT

as an aside she will also wear the crown of Queen Mary Teck

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Mindy D — Mon, 10 Apr 2023 15:38:05 GMT

For something made in 1685 I like it. It's been in use for every coronation since.

While I love elephants and do not want any harm to come to them, this piece is old and was made in a different time. Since it still exists and has historical and traditional significance I'd like to see the tradition continue.

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Trailrun23 — Tue, 11 Apr 2023 00:33:33 GMT

I think it is intricate and beautiful. What a great heirloom. Hopefully the last coronation in which it is used for many years to come. Not a huge fan of the bird, but when it was made I am sure that was something very timely.

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Parischic — Tue, 11 Apr 2023 01:47:45 GMT

It's made of Ivory and I find it hypocritical that Camilla is using it especially since Charles and Prince William have spoken out about the poaching of elephants and have banned Ivory throughout the UK.

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faeriemoon — Tue, 11 Apr 2023 02:05:18 GMT

@Parischic wrote:
It's made of Ivory and I find it hypocritical that Camilla is using it especially since Charles and Prince William have spoken out about the poaching of elephants and have banned Ivory throughout the UK.

I completely agree. It should NOT be used in this coronation or future coronations.

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lil sophie — Tue, 11 Apr 2023 13:46:01 GMT

@sunshine45 wrote:
it is very pretty.
is the bird supposed to hold any special significance or be any particular type of bird?

Maybe she's just giving them the bird short and sweet!

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tends2dogs — Tue, 11 Apr 2023 13:55:33 GMT

When I first opened this I just looked at the picture before reading what it was.

I honestly thought it was a curtain rod with a decorative finial that you might buy at Big Lots LOL.

It seems to be in pretty good shape for how old it is.

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Glittergal — Tue, 11 Apr 2023 16:35:03 GMT

I believe the bird may be a martlet, a symbol of endurance since they were rumored to never stop flying in their entire lifetime. I would prefer to see this piece retired to a museum, however, because of the ivory. I just can't look at it without knowing the suffering that came to an innocent creature.

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SamBrown — Tue, 11 Apr 2023 19:01:26 GMT

@Parischic wrote:
It's made of Ivory and I find it hypocritical that Camilla is using it especially since Charles and Prince William have spoken out about the poaching of elephants and have banned Ivory throughout the UK.

@Parischic oh geez, it was made in the 1600's. (eyeroll)

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GoneButNotForgotten — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 17:18:50 GMT

"classy" or "classic"? I notice the two words are sometimes confused or used interchanably.