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Protective Custody Bugs Me

aj1980 — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 17:57:16 GMT

How do you feel about certain criminals being under protective custody for their safety? I read where Murdaugh was recently moved for his safety and Im wondering if you commit the crimes he did why should you be shielded from others? Same with Derek Chauvin, who killed G floyd. hes in protective custody but I guess its because he was a cop.

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kitcat51 — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:08:16 GMT

No one deserves to be harmed or murdered by another prisoner in jail....good grief.

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Love4cats — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:12:15 GMT

@aj1980 wrote:
How do you feel about certain criminals being under protective custody for their safety? I read where Murdaugh was recently moved for his safety and Im wondering if you commit the crimes he did why should you be shielded from others? Same with Derek Chauvin, who killed G floyd. hes in protective custody but I guess its because he was a cop.

I don't feel they should be in protective custody, I think they should be put in general popluation and let the other's give them an attitude adjustment!

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Kachina624 — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:13:21 GMT

@aj1980 wrote:
How do you feel about certain criminals being under protective custody for their safety? I read where Murdaugh was recently moved for his safety and Im wondering if you commit the crimes he did why should you be shielded from others? Same with Derek Chauvin, who killed G floyd. hes in protective custody but I guess its because he was a cop.

@aj1980 When a person is jailed, his custodian, the city, county, state or Feds, assume responsibility for his total care including medical and otherwise keeping him safe. There are certain prisoner who are so hated, they must be given protection for their own safety.

We are not animals who allow others to be attacked and maimed or killed.

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On It — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:16:36 GMT

@kitcat51 wrote:
No one deserves to be harmed or murdered by another prisoner in jail....good grief.

I deleted my previous post because yours says it better. It is my understanding those in protective custody are essentially in solitary confinement. It is by no means preferential treatment.

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RollTide2008 — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:27:05 GMT

So prison should just be like some kind of Hunger Games?

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SamBrown — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 18:39:41 GMT

If someone is on suicide watch they would also be in protective custody.

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Winkk — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 19:14:29 GMT

I've never given it much thought. Actually, I've never given it any thought. But, we can't have people in prison just killing each other. That's like gladiator era.

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moonandthestars — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 19:35:05 GMT

What bothers me is that there is so much bad behavior that goes on in prisons (drugs, rape, murder, just to name a few). How is it that there isn't more control over this? - I mean it's a confined space! There are prison guards! They have monitoring equipment, cameras, etc. They have and are allowed little societies within the prisons. It all makes no sense to me. Isn't it possible to get a handle on this? It should be had enough that someone goes to prison and loses their freedom, but they shouldn't have to fear for their safely or their life. I do know that some people feel right at home with that type of culture - and that also is a bad thing. Ideally someone would emerge from prison rehabilitated and better than when they went in. Learn a different, better, more mainstream way to be.

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sugar plum — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 20:05:28 GMT

Unfortunately psychopaths, sociopaths, and rapists cannot be rehabilitated.

I agree that prisoners whose lives are in danger should be put in protective custody. No matter what they have done. Prison is hard enough without fearing for your life.

We become murderers ourselves if we allow this to happen.

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deepwaterdotter — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 20:14:13 GMT

@RollTide2008 wrote:
So prison should just be like some kind of Hunger Games?

This was also my reaction.

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PhilaLady1 — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 20:23:42 GMT

I understand the need for protective custody and feel that it must be that way.. The truth is, though, that there is a part of me that wants the general population prisoners to go ahead and rip the stuffing out of someone like Derek Chauvin.

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Etoile308 — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 20:30:58 GMT

Protective Custody denotes our humanity.

It's what sets us apart from them.

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Sooner — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 20:45:49 GMT

@moonandthestars wrote:
What bothers me is that there is so much bad behavior that goes on in prisons (drugs, rape, murder, just to name a few). How is it that there isn't more control over this? - I mean it's a confined space! There are prison guards! They have monitoring equipment, cameras, etc. They have and are allowed little societies within the prisons. It all makes no sense to me. Isn't it possible to get a handle on this? It should be had enough that someone goes to prison and loses their freedom, but they shouldn't have to fear for their safely or their life. I do know that some people feel right at home with that type of culture - and that also is a bad thing. Ideally someone would emerge from prison rehabilitated and better than when they went in. Learn a different, better, more mainstream way to be.

@moonandthestars How much do you want your taxes to go up to make prisons a happier place? A lot? That's what it would take. Want to educate prisoners while schools go lacking? Commit a crime to afford a degree?

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moonandthestars — Tue, 04 Apr 2023 06:04:10 GMT

@Sooner I think you misunderstand my post. My comment is about how "we" seem to have no control or no interest in controlling the subsocieties that are allowed to thrive in prison, which are dangerous, counterculture, ganglike, aggressive. My mind seems to be going blank as to the right words (still have a cold! ) so forgive me if I'm not saying this all the right way. Why, in a confined space, are we not able to streamline and police these bad behaviors. And regarding your comments - we already pay for much of what you mentioned - incld. elective medical, education, training. All these things are offered already. My comment was not about any of that, although I am in favor of education, job training if someone is at some point going to be released it seems to be a necessity. Not in favor of the body building in prison, fyi.

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bikerbabe — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 21:02:18 GMT

Prisons are a mess and then we wonder why the recidivism rate is awful. It’s not about making prisons a happier place. Convince me the current system is even working?

One of the best programs are like Paws4Life: dog training in maximum security prisons. It DOES change lives of both prisoner and the dog. It’s not appropriate for all prisoners, obviously, but for those accepted into the program, the recidivism rate is extremely low.

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moonandthestars — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 21:26:31 GMT

@bikerbabe yes, that's what I was trying to convey. The prison system seems to be a mess - it mostly seems to be a reinforcement of the culture that many of the inmates live on the outside too. Not a good thing for any of us or any of them.

And that program is amazing, I should have remembered it and brought it up. it's exactly the sort of program that makes true change for the good.

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chrystaltree — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 21:54:59 GMT

They only do it for wealthy or politically connected prisoners. So I don't like it. They should take their chances just like any other prisoner.

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chrystaltree — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 21:57:37 GMT

@kitcat51 wrote:
No one deserves to be harmed or murdered by another prisoner in jail....good grief.

And yet that happens to prisoners a thousand times a day in this country's prisons. So I guess you think they should all be in protective custody.

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scatcat — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 22:16:55 GMT

@chrystaltree wrote:
@kitcat51 wrote:
No one deserves to be harmed or murdered by another prisoner in jail....good grief.

And yet that happens to prisoners a thousand times a day in this country's prisons. So I guess you think they should all be in protective custody.

@chrystaltree

Thousands of times a day?