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Difference between being laid off vs fired

Reilley — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 16:49:07 GMT

I copied this definition from the web:

A severance package is the final pay and benefits that an employer may give to an employee at the end of their tenure with a company. While a laid-off employee is more likely to get severance vs. an employee who has been terminated, the severance options vary by employer.

Sometimes the severance package offer is based on a formula, i.e. age and the number of years the employee has worked for the employer to qualify for a severance pkg. Keep in mind that people can volunteer for a severance pkg as long as they meet the qualications the company has offered.

if Carolyn and Dan are so thoughtful of their fans maybe they can (if not already) put a clear explanation on their FB if they were fired (we don't need to know why) or laid off. l liked both Dan and Carolyn (not the squirrel) and both were experienced Sales people.

AGAIN SALES PEOPLE! No need to respond to my comments as I am almost sure I won't like them. BTW I have been purchasing from QVC for over 35 years.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

Group 5 minus 1 — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 16:53:05 GMT

One of the conditions of some of those packages is that the info is not disclosed.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

Kachina624 — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 16:58:00 GMT

Its pretty obvious the retained employees as well as those who left have been told not to discuss any aspect of the layoff.

No corporation wants it policies and procedures floating around the community... or further. Most don't even want it known publicly that they had a layoff. There has not been a, word out of any body's mouth.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

Luvitorleaveit1 — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 16:58:20 GMT

My company has provided severance packages for terminated employees, depending on the circumstances. Both situations have a disclosure agreement in the packet.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

Scooby Doo — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 16:59:21 GMT

So what difference does it make to you and what effect does this have on your life?

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

Alsace Gal — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:01:05 GMT

@Reilley

Thank you for posting the info. It may help some posters to understand the definition.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

MG Chris — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:02:03 GMT

I don't understand why people can't let it go. Dan and Carolyn have posted updates and photos and they seemed to have started moving forward. Beating the dead horse isn't going to bring it back to life.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

chrystaltree — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:18:48 GMT

Oh good grief, obviously they weren't fired. Lol. They were layed off due to a reduction in force and their severance package is their business and no one else's. Carolyn and Dan have moved on, you should too.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

bikerbabe — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:24:24 GMT

IMO it’s inappropriate to expect someone to publicly disclose any of this information, even if there is not a non-disclosure agreement (which there likely is). NOT our business. 😉

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

Reilley — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:39:14 GMT

@chrystaltree I agree with you...move on is the perfect response but again we had someone asking where they are..I thought writing the definition would be helpful. So many people keep asking about them and probably continue to do so. I promise I won't write another word on the subject.. just kick me in the you know what if I do it🤐

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

haddon9 — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:39:42 GMT

A laid off employee can also get unemployment compensation while a fired one usually can't.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

Travone — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:40:50 GMT

Dear lord give it a rest.

They are gone. They've moved on, why can't the people on this board?

They are gone, Deal With It.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

DrakesMomma — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:56:14 GMT

Ad nauseam.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

Desert Lily — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 17:57:03 GMT

I remembered reading a news article about companies no longer being allowed to prohibit a furloughed employee from disclosing info about their severance package or from disclosing disparaging things about the company.

This is from the National Labor Relations Board dot gov.

February 21, 2023

Today, the Board issued a decision returning to longstanding precedent holding that employers may not offer employees severance agreements that require employees to broadly waive their rights under the National Labor Relations Act. The decision involved severance agreements offered to furloughed employees that prohibited them from making statements that could disparage the employer and from disclosing the terms of the agreement itself.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

mspatmac — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:31:01 GMT

It's time to back this subject off the boards and those that want to follow Carolyn and Dan join them with their questions on their social media pages. It's their choice what they choose to share with their fans.

They are moving forward and maybe don't want to be bombarded with intrusive questions or share anything further. Move forward with them and support their future endeavors.

Just my thoughts and opinions.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

ROMARY — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:39:01 GMT

As I've posted somewhere else, I have a feeling that C and D wouldn't want their fans and non-fans to be in ongoing bantering and turmoil.

Just the way I feel, right or wrong.

Let's just wish them well, and all of us, too.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

beach-mom — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:40:15 GMT

It took me a while to notice this, but since I've been shopping here, and talking with others here on the forums of course, a lot of hosts have left "to spend more time with family."

I don't know why they left, and it may have been a mutual decision, but I would bet it was not a voluntary decision on the hosts' part!

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

ROMARY — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:40:21 GMT

p.s. And thank you O/P and others for all of the information.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

Icegoddess — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:57:00 GMT

Personally, I think it's none of our business. Maybe they're thinking about how what they say or don't say could be viewed by a potential employer. But, it really doesn't matter. It's not our business and they don't owe us anything including any kind of explanation. I just wish them the best.

Re: Difference between being laid off vs fired

Krimpette — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:58:48 GMT

I find it incredible that anyone would think that these employees should tell us specifically if they were laid off or fired! SMH!