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Riots After World Cup Losses

gertrudecloset — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 01:43:35 GMT

I'm not much of a sports fan. However, you can't help but here about the Superbowl or the World Series even if you don't watch. I was in the doctor's office earlier this week and was watching a match of the FIFA world cup. That match up had the USA a winner when it was all said and done.

In Belgium, they are out rioting because of a loss to Morocco. Why? It's a game yes? This is mind boggling to me. No one can win a game every single time. It's not possible.

About a dozen people were detained by police in Brussels, who used water cannons and tear gas to disperse crowds according to the Associated Press.

Eight people were detained in Antwerp, and two police officials were injured in Rotterdam after soccer fans allegedly “pelted police with fireworks and glass.”

Among other things, cars on the streets were pelted with bricks, flipped and torched, and electric scooters were set on fire. Subway and tram traffic was briefly interrupted in multiple cities, too.

Several hundred fans smashed store windows, set fire to vehicles, and threw fireworks.

According to Brussels police, "dozens of people, including some wearing hoodies, sought confrontation with the police, jeopardizing public safety" before the game ended.

Tearing up, burning up and looting and rioting your own community over a GAME is ridiculous.

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Chopsmom — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 01:51:56 GMT

@gertrudecloset

Never did understand it.

Like you said, Ridiculous!

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maximillian — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 01:57:10 GMT

It also happens in college towns in the USA. We live about 45 minutes away from a university with 40,000 students. Often, after a WIN in football season, college kids run over the downtown area of the college town. Millions of dollars in damage, as well as injuries, some serious enough to require a trip to the local hospital's emergency room are common. Of course the police and EMTs are putting their lives on the line for these drunken punks.

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paixmcdao — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 02:03:06 GMT

Team USA has played two games, both draws. They play Iran on Tuesday, and must win, or be eliminated.

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gizmogal — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 02:54:59 GMT

@gertrudecloset I don't know otherwise, so I'll assume your details about post game rioting is accurate.

However, your statement that the US has won a game is incorrect. The team from the USA has not won any games at the World Cup now being held. The first game they played against Wales and it was a draw. The second game they played against England and it was also a draw, no winner. The next game USA plays is against the Iran team. If USA loses that one they are eliminated.

We haven't won any game so far. Perhaps you saw the game still in progress against Wales. At one point we were ahead. But we didn't win.

I think sometimes these crazy riots occur after a game is lost when a substantial lot of people, like those in Belgium, get drunk and overstimulated and then can't accept the disappointment while still not sober. Often, fans think the match was mishandled by the referees and the reaction comes from belief the other side cheated or was favored by the officials.

I do agree this kind of destructive behavior is utterly senseless over a sports match. Rioting in Belgium over a match having taken place thousands of miles away in Qatar seems especially nutty.

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Etoile308 — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 02:54:27 GMT

It's not about a game. A game, win or lose, is just used as an opportunity for people to gather and for bad people to behave badly.

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haddon9 — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 02:56:48 GMT

@gertrudecloset It certainly seems like it has much more to do than just a game. I have no idea what life is like the last few years in Belgium but people seem have some serious issues.

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deepwaterdotter — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 03:04:25 GMT

@Etoile308 wrote:
It's not about a game. A game, win or lose, is just used as an opportunity for people to gather and for bad people to behave badly.

This makes sense to me.

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Mz iMac — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 03:27:14 GMT

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I initially misread the the post. Riots were in Belgium & not Qatar.

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gertrudecloset — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 03:53:45 GMT

@gizmogal wrote:
@gertrudecloset I don't know otherwise, so I'll assume your details about post game rioting is accurate.

However, your statement that the US has won a game is incorrect. The team from the USA has not won any games at the World Cup now being held. The first game they played against Wales and it was a draw. The second game they played against England and it was also a draw, no winner. The next game USA plays is against the Iran team. If USA loses that one they are eliminated.

We haven't won any game so far. Perhaps you saw the game still in progress against Wales. At one point we were ahead. But we didn't win.

I think sometimes these crazy riots occur after a game is lost when a substantial lot of people, like those in Belgium, get drunk and overstimulated and then can't accept the disappointment while still not sober. Often, fans think the match was mishandled by the referees and the reaction comes from belief the other side cheated or was favored by the officials.

I do agree this kind of destructive behavior is utterly senseless over a sports match. Rioting in Belgium over a match having taken place thousands of miles away in Qatar seems especially nutty.

@gizmogalhonestly, I might be mistaken about who won. It was Tuesday, that just past around 2:30p.m.

I know they had the game on in my doctor's office and some of the staff were watching. Team USA was wearing all red I think. All I remember is that they cheered for something. Maybe they made a goal or whatever, but they were cheesing and the announcer made a comment about Team USA. I don't know what the World Cup is, honestly. I don't know what FIFA is either. I just know that it is taking place.

I believe you when you say that the USA has not won a thing. I made an assumption which, for those who know the game better than me will be able to discern. Sorry for any confusion.

The story that I found about the rioting is all over the internet.

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Zernia Rose — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 03:59:24 GMT

Soccer fans in some countries are known for there intense reactions to losses and wins. Their behavior in England resulted a name and spawned sociological studies as they were associated with the working class, underemployed, and rowdies. They were named soccer hooligans and their behavior, hooliganism. The behavior is not as visible as in the 1960s-1980s and occasionally appears in other countries.

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hckynutjohn — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 07:59:23 GMT

I have been a sports fan and participant most of my life. Like others, I don't get the nonsense that happens after a BIG Win, or a BIG Loss. Celebrate a WIN, and tear up things after LOSS.

These Soccer games are being played in Qatar, and it was announced 2 days before the games started, no Beer would be sold during the games. Read up a bit about Qatar and their way of life in that country.

All I will say about this other than:

GO USA

hckynut 🇺🇸

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gardenman — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 13:22:14 GMT

@Etoile308 wrote:
It's not about a game. A game, win or lose, is just used as an opportunity for people to gather and for bad people to behave badly.

Exactly right.

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CalminHeart — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 13:28:32 GMT

The U.S. has had plenty of riots after losses and wins in sports. It's not ok anywhere.

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kaydee50 — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 13:35:11 GMT

Considering the number of people at these various events, sometimes 100,000+ I'm kind of suprised disorder doesn't occur more frequently or maybe it's just not reported.

Many sports fans are fanatics. As someone already posted, it's only a game but not to those crazies.

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beckyb1012 — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 15:14:30 GMT

I am all my life a big sports fan. Two games on Thanksgiving and three games yesterday. I have not seen any of the World Cup but I am keeping up with the US. If we do not win tomorrow over Iran then we are out. Have to kick some but.........

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songbird — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 19:18:44 GMT

They are being played in an autocratic country. No alcohol. Soccer hooligans is usually part of the game. Not in Qatar. You can be beheaded for a half a dozen things other than murder. So you won't see this. This is a world wide game with nationalistic pride. Wars have been fought over the game. Between El Salvadore and Honduras in 1969. The UN had to intervene for a cease fire. U.S. does not even come close to the passion and blood spilt over a game. Soccer is a game almost each country calls football. Only a handful countries ignore it. The U.S. and Australia are two of them.

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bargainsgirl — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 20:19:06 GMT

Shameful behavior....all for a game? What is wrong with this world????? Talk about sore losers!!!!

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candyagain — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 20:22:30 GMT

Drugs and alcohol.......

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Greeneyedlady21 — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 22:25:58 GMT

Cheering and fireworks in Iran because the US defeated their country. Women's revolution in Iran continues. It's a shame that so many people in the US know nothing about it too. Mahsa Amini