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Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

elated — Fri, 25 Nov 2022 02:04:09 GMT

A third unsolved stabbing in the Pacific Northwest has resurfaced with eerie similarities.

Reporters at a news briefing Wednesday asked the Moscow Police about the possible connection between the students' slaying and a second unsolved stabbing, which left Travis Just ten dead and seriously injured his wife Hamilton in Oregon.

Authorities say an attended attacked the couple in their sleep around 3 a.m. on Aug 13, 2021.

Travis Juetten 26,fought back but succumbed to his injuries. His wife, who is 26 now survived 19 stab wounds.

The Moscow Police Chief said his office knew about the case and was looking into it, but no official connection has been drawn between the two cases.

The following morning the Idaho Tribune reported that a third nearby attack shared similar characteristics.

Sandra Ladd, 71, was found dead inner home in Washougal, Washington on June 14, 2020 according to Oregon Crime Stoppers. Her death was ruled as a homicide after the medical examiner found multiple stabb wounds in her torso. Washougal police said at the time.

The two attacks happened 14 months apart within 70 miles of one another. The locations are roughly a five-year drive west of Moscow, Idaho.

Details about the timing of Ladd's death were not immediately. clear. Her body was discovered at 4:30 p.m. - in her bed, the Oregonian reported at the time.

In all three cases, no suspect has been identified.

Aaron Snell, the communications director for Idaho State Police, told Fox News Digital Thursday that investigators would be digging into any possible connection between the cases.

Kaylee mentioned having a stalker , but detectives have been unable to corroborate the statement, police said in a statement. Investigators are requesting anyone with information about a potential stalker, or unusual instances to contact the tip line.

This case is becoming more and more convoluted.

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

PhilaLady1 — Fri, 25 Nov 2022 02:20:05 GMT

Hopefully they are working on DNA evidence to link these horrible events, or solve them separately. When I think about the serial killers of the past that took years to catch those monsters, I immediately say to myself thank God for today's DNA technology.

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

PamfromCT — Fri, 25 Nov 2022 04:56:06 GMT

Oh my goodness, This does seem like there is a serial killer in this area on the loose.

Some very deranged person killed a family dog in a gruesome manner in the area about a month ago. Supposedly the authorities found “no relationship” to the other knife killings.

Really?

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

AngelLove2 — Fri, 25 Nov 2022 09:34:36 GMT

Kaylee had a dog. Why didn't it bark on the night of the murders? Makes me believe the killer knew the girls. Seems like an intruder would have killed the dog. I read where Kaylee's ex has the dog now. The police found the dog in the house. Has anyone read where the dog was when the attacks took place? It just seems odd that the dog didn't bark.

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

MorningLover — Fri, 25 Nov 2022 10:03:01 GMT

Police probing the horrific murders of four University of Idaho students face a 'major challenge' recovering samples of the killer's DNA because of the amount of blood at the scene, a forensics expert has said.

Joseph Scott Morgan, a forensics professor at Jacksonville State University, said as the killer moved from victim to victim, it will be difficult to distinguish individual samples.

'It's going to be a very complicated case when you go through blood evidence, when you go to do DNA typing. It's a major challenge. If we believe this is a single killer with a single weapon, the killer is migrating from body to body, and you'll have what's called commingling of blood. If this blood is all commingled, it's difficult to distinguish the individual samples.'

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

Cakers3 — Fri, 25 Nov 2022 14:46:17 GMT

@elated This is a very disturbing report. While so far all murders are not linked, a disturbing pattern is emerging.

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

alliswell — Fri, 25 Nov 2022 18:21:44 GMT

@PhilaLady1 wrote:
Hopefully they are working on DNA evidence to link these horrible events, or solve them separately. When I think about the serial killers of the past that took years to catch those monsters, I immediately say to myself thank God for today's DNA technology.

Yes, thankfully, they are linking this case with the unsolved similar knife murders that occurred within a relatively close geographical area and approximately 1 or 2-years ago. I sure hope that they will resolve this quickly.

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

elated — Fri, 25 Nov 2022 18:53:47 GMT

@AngelLove2 wrote:
Kaylee had a dog. Why didn't it bark on the night of the murders? Makes me believe the killer knew the girls. Seems like an intruder would have killed the dog. I read where Kaylee's ex has the dog now. The police found the dog in the house. Has anyone read where the dog was when the attacks took place? It just seems odd that the dog didn't bark.

I agree with you. I wondered about the dog not barking. This whole crime scene makes one wonder what really occurred on the night of the murders. We know they were all killed with a knife while sleeping (??). Some victims had defensive wounds. The killer entered by the sliding glass door. The crime scene was a bloody mess. I know it will take awhile to get definite answers but each day the murder goes unsolved the more likely it will be a Dateline story.

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

skatting44 — Fri, 25 Nov 2022 20:50:12 GMT

At this point , the FBI needs to look at all 3 stabbing cases that are coincidentally within the 60 the geographic area , the elderly lady, the couple and these Idaho co-eds. In the middle of the 60 miles is a Reservation which may give someone cover. All the stabbing occurred on the 13th of the month and the other couple were attached at 3am as were the Idaho co-eds . The husband that was killed in the couple's attack apparently fought back but they have not solved that case as yet . DNA is great but it has to match someone's dna on file. Is there a psychopath who is knifing people like in the movie " Scream " ? I don't know how the Police can say that horrendous dog killing was not related . It may be that it was done to further strike fear in everyone. I am glade that I don't live in the area.

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

golding76 — Fri, 25 Nov 2022 23:34:26 GMT

If the killer/slasher is the same person, it also appears that he strikes once a year. Some compulsion driving his demonic deeds? What is he trying to exorcise from himself?

Of course, this could be a female killer, but she would have to be endowed with size and unusual strength.

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

persiflage — Sat, 26 Nov 2022 01:24:39 GMT

Washougal, WA is 340 miles from Moscow, ID. Silverton, OR is 394 miles from Moscow, ID. The distance between Washougal and Silverton is 58 miles. Just mentioning for context regarding proximity of stabbings.

* when reading about the Oregon crime it is written that it occurred in rural Marion County, Salem, OR, and other times Silverton, OR Both Salem and Silverton are in Marion County and are 14 miles apart.

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

alliswell — Sat, 26 Nov 2022 02:34:23 GMT

@skatting44 wrote:
At this point , the FBI needs to look at all 3 stabbing cases that are coincidentally within the 60 the geographic area , the elderly lady, the couple and these Idaho co-eds. In the middle of the 60 miles is a Reservation which may give someone cover. All the stabbing occurred on the 13th of the month and the other couple were attached at 3am as were the Idaho co-eds . The husband that was killed in the couple's attack apparently fought back but they have not solved that case as yet . DNA is great but it has to match someone's dna on file. Is there a psychopath who is knifing people like in the movie " Scream " ? I don't know how the Police can say that horrendous dog killing was not related . It may be that it was done to further strike fear in everyone. I am glade that I don't live in the area.

Reporters from a local CBS news station in Moscow, Idaho, interviewed former agent and FBI profiler, Mary Ellen O'Toole. O'Toole is in a league of her own, and gave by far the most informative interview I’ve seen regarding this case, considering what little information has been provided.

O'Toole said that, based on the area where the crime was committed, she described a hunter - an experienced hunter. She also said that that person would not discard or throw the knife away. Hunters often have a favorite knife, and some are emotionally attached to their skinning knives.

O'Toole also said that this type of violence is perpetrated frequently on strangers, and is the kind of violence used by people who are psychopathic... people who are profoundly lacking in empathy and guilt..."

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

JoyFilled Warrior — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 20:01:37 GMT

Thank you for these Idaho threads!

Last night, finally I was able to get to bed, & sleep at a reasonable time.

At 1:15AM, someone was knocking & knocking, & pounding on my door, for at least 10-15 minutes, even tho my house was dark!

I worried it might be one of my beloved neighbors, needing help.

But I also remember this "slasher" topics on these Idaho threads.

NO WAY, NO WAY was I going to answer that door, esp since I dont have "door peephole," (only a regular window beside the door)! And esp after these "slasher" news stories - Dont even care if they're perhaps only in Idaho!

And esp since I "near missed" running an errand at that VA Walmart that the employee shot/killed coworkers.

So called all my beloved neighbors, tht we look out for one another, and no one is in trouble. But at least they're also *alerted* there was a "late night knocker" knocking on the door!

Remembering - BE CAREFUL!

These arent the "ole days!" And I'm not fit to run!

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

Lucky Charm — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 20:09:39 GMT

@JoyFilled Warrior OMGosh, if someone were banging on my door for 10 to 15 minutes and at one o'clock in the morning--I would've called the police just to let them know. Someone else may've opened their door to whoever it was and it could've been a bad outcome. At least the police would know in case something did happen, they could investigate.

That would've freaked me out.

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

JoyFilled Warrior — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 20:48:47 GMT

@Lucky Charm wrote:
@JoyFilled Warrior OMGosh, if someone were banging on my door for 10 to 15 minutes and at one o'clock in the morning--I would've called the police just to let them know. Someone else may've opened their door to whoever it was and it could've been a bad outcome. At least the police would know in case something did happen, they could investigate.

That would've freaked me out.

~~~~~

@Lucky Charm

Yeah, I didnt think to call the Police. That's a good idea!

(edited out)

Safety was my #1 criteria in selecting this neighborhood, as in years ago, it was considered "very safe," but as 'safe" as can be determined, in this day & age, esp, with all these "homicidal whack-a-doodles" with their ideas, milling around, in "Anywhere USA." (or World)

Call Police, great idea! @Lucky Charm THX!!

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

San Antonio Gal — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 11:23:53 GMT

@JoyFilled Warrior - That is strange that someone was pounding on your door for so long at 1:00am. Have you ever thought of getting a security system that has video of who's at your door?

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

JoyFilled Warrior — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 19:29:54 GMT

@San Antonio Gal wrote:
@JoyFilled Warrior - That is strange that someone was pounding on your door for so long at 1:00am. Have you ever thought of getting a security system that has video of who's at your door?

~~~~~~~

@San Antonio Gal

THERE you are! I've missed you! *hugs*

You are one of the persons/reasons I virtually stayed.

THANK YOU!!

I've considered a Security system, but the honest truth is, I'm below a kindergarten level of "Cell phone knowledge & acumen," and seems i have a mental block abt intuitively what the Cell Phone offers, let alone where to find it on the cell phone!

Thanks for this loving suggestion.

I still cant even find where I insert my name on the Cell Phone so ppl I'm calling, know it's me!

(See my two panicked "threads" in "Electronics" Forum Chat) heh

I know, it's S*A*D!

I have a neighbor who has cameras ALLLL over her home, every square inch, included pointed at my home, so if something happens, she's sure to have a camera video.

But i highly suspect that a "Ring" or such is within my Cell phone capability.

I did see a "screw into the light socket" kind of camera system. Can be used inside or out (see below). but I thnk it still uses a Cell Phone tho.

"Light Bulb 1080P Security Camera, Smart Light Bu lb Security Camera PTZ Dome Camera with Color Night Vision, Motion Detection, 2-Way Audio, Remote Access Support Cloud Storage & SD Card "

( ~~$40~~ .... $28) ($15 S&H) (113 Rated) (Rating Total 3.3 of 5.0)

Maybe?... It's too good to be true? But then again, unfortunately, uses a Cell Phone.

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

hckynutjohn — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 22:06:28 GMT

@JoyFilled Warrior wrote:
Thank you for these Idaho threads!

Last night, finally I was able to get to bed, & sleep at a reasonable time.
.
At 1:15AM, someone was knocking & knocking, & pounding on my door, for at least 10-15 minutes, even tho my house was dark!
I worried it might be one of my beloved neighbors, needing help.
But I also remember this "slasher" topics on these Idaho threads.

NO WAY, NO WAY was I going to answer that door, esp since I dont have "door peephole," (only a regular window beside the door)! And esp after these "slasher" news stories - Dont even care if they're perhaps only in Idaho!

And esp since I "near missed" running an errand at that VA Walmart that the employee shot/killed coworkers.

So called all my beloved neighbors, tht we look out for one another, and no one is in trouble. But at least they're also *alerted* there was a "late night knocker" knocking on the door!

Remembering - BE CAREFUL!
These arent the "ole days!" And I'm not fit to run!

@JoyFilled Warrior

Can't be too careful nowadays. If in doubt, do not wait, call 911. Can't imagine anyone "pounding on your door" for 10-15 minutes.

We live in an area that has 1 road in, the same road out. We live at the end of a Cul-de-sac, and cars have to use our driveway to turn around. Everyone here has over an acre of land, and unless they live here, most don't even know houses are back here.

I however, many years ago, got my permit to carry! I have an equalizer for anyone that has thoughts of doing anything to my property. It is always within my reach and ready to be used.

Hopefully next time, if it's the wee hours and you are expecting nobody? Forget your "beloved neighbors" and call the Police, ASAP. 👍🏻

hckynut 🇺🇸

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

Nancy Drew — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 22:20:27 GMT

Same. Anyone banging on my door at 1 a.m. should know I have already been to my equalizer safe before I call the police.

Re: Idaho Murders: Third Unsolved Stabbing Attack Resurfaces Amid College Slaying Mystery

DottieBlue — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 23:11:34 GMT

It's always best to be safe, but I don't think "slashers" would pound on someone's door for so long and loud enough to wake them up. I think they would quietly sneek in. But you did the right thing to NEVER open your door under those circumstances.

But I would wonder if it was someone who needed help, perhaps someone not from your neighborhood, and would have called the police.

What a scary experience, and glad to hear that you are safe and sound!