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Sarah Ferguson

beach-mom — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 17:08:08 GMT

"Fergie" has an unusual place in the royal family. She wrote a beautiful tribute to Queen Elizabeth.

I've read articles that say people are asking why she isn't doing things with the royal family.

She and Andrew have never "left" each other. They live together, maybe as roommates,maybe more, They are always around each other, and they seem to be close, even though it's just the two of them. And they are taking the Queen's dogs. She believes he is innocent. They did a great job bringing up their daughters together. But since they divorced she no longer is an "official" member of the family.

But she and Queen Elizabeth were very close. The Queen always got along with her because Sarah did like being outdoors and enjoying dogs and horses, something Diana wasn't that interested in. I read they saw each other all of the time. And Sarah still calls the Queen her mother-in-law. Last year she told a reporter Queen Elizabeth was more than a mother to her than her own mother. She said the Queen was "forgiving and generous" when she and Andrew divorced.

Prince Philip wasn't that forgiving. Apparently during Sarah, Andrew, and the girls' holiday visits to Balmoral, they would wait until Prince Philip left before Sarah would go!

Sarah hasn't been to any of the recent family ceremonial events, but she will be at the main funeral. She won't be allowed to sit with Andrew and her daughters, but at least she can attend.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

hopi — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 17:50:47 GMT

Charles appears to have issues and the monarchy may not last long if he doesn't do better. There have been at least 3 times since named king he has thrown mini fits with the camera's rolling. He needs to grow up. His bizarre rulings on who can do what and wear what is crazy.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

spumoni99 — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 17:29:08 GMT

@hopi wrote:
Phil appears to have issues and the monarchy may not last long if he doesn't do better. There have been at least 3 times since named king he has thrown mini fits with the camera's rolling. He needs to grow up. His bizarre rulings on who can do what and wear what is crazy.

Do you mean King Charles III? Who is Phil?

Re: Sarah Ferguson

lgfan — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 17:32:31 GMT

I don't see the new King Charles in charge for long. He was too old when he took over and I don't think he can handle the responsibility. I give him five to ten years before he hands over the title to William.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

Scooby Doo — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 17:33:15 GMT

Some of those old traditions are just stuffy and somewhat abusive. I hope Charlie modernizes the system.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

Tinkrbl44 — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 17:33:30 GMT

@beach-mom wrote:
"Fergie" has an unusual place in the royal family. She wrote a beautiful tribute to Queen Elizabeth.
I've read articles that say people are asking why she isn't doing things with the royal family.
She and Andrew have never "left" each other. They live together, maybe as roommates,maybe more, They are always around each other, and they seem to be close, even though it's just the two of them. And they are taking the Queen's dogs. She believes he is innocent. They did a great job bringing up their daughters together. But since they divorced she no longer is an "official" member of the family.
But she and Queen Elizabeth were very close. The Queen always got along with her because Sarah did like being outdoors and enjoying dogs and horses, something Diana wasn't that interested in. I read they saw each other all of the time. And Sarah still calls the Queen her mother-in-law. Last year she told a reporter Queen Elizabeth was more than a mother to her than her own mother. She said the Queen was "forgiving and generous" when she and Andrew divorced.

Prince Philip wasn't that forgiving. Apparently during Sarah, Andrew, and the girls' holiday visits to Balmoral, they would wait until Prince Philip left before Sarah would go!

Sarah hasn't been to any of the recent family ceremonial events, but she will be at the main funeral. She won't be allowed to sit with Andrew and her daughters, but at least she can attend.

@beach-mom

Wow .... Oh well, at least she'll be "allowed" to attend the funeral ... but not "allowed" to sit with her own family? Really?

How petty can they get?

JMO, but just another reason why this outdated institution should finally be abolished.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

10sluvr — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 17:35:32 GMT

@hopi wrote:
Phil appears to have issues and the monarchy may not last long if he doesn't do better. There have been at least 3 times since named king he has thrown mini fits with the camera's rolling. He needs to grow up. His bizarre rulings on who can do what and wear what is crazy.

i'm willing to cut him some slack. He is grieving the loss of his mother and being scrutinized while adjusting to a new role/life, isn't easy, no matter how much training you've had. Plus he's 73 years old and older people can get grouchy and stressed.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

beckyb1012 — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 17:45:16 GMT

I have always liked Sarah even when she made some really bad choices. I think it is wonderful that she Andrew have been able to raise their girls together as a united front even without marriage. Protocol for the Queen's funeral regarding former spouses is probably much different than say Princess Eugenie big formal wedding..

Re: Sarah Ferguson

beach-mom — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 17:47:48 GMT

@10sluvr wrote:
@hopi wrote:
Phil appears to have issues and the monarchy may not last long if he doesn't do better. There have been at least 3 times since named king he has thrown mini fits with the camera's rolling. He needs to grow up. His bizarre rulings on who can do what and wear what is crazy.
i'm willing to cut him some slack. He is grieving the loss of his mother and being scrutinized while adjusting to a new role/life, isn't easy, no matter how much training you've had. Plus he's 73 years old and older people can get grouchy and stressed.

@10sluvr - So true! I felt so bad and noticed how he got really upset when his pen leaked. He's been preparing for this his whole life, but at the end of everything, he is a son who is missing the mother he had for 73 years. And he can't even miss her in private. He probably wants to just break down and cry, and postpone all of the ceremonial stuff. But he can't.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

hopi — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 17:51:35 GMT

@spumoni99 wrote:
@hopi wrote:
Phil appears to have issues and the monarchy may not last long if he doesn't do better. There have been at least 3 times since named king he has thrown mini fits with the camera's rolling. He needs to grow up. His bizarre rulings on who can do what and wear what is crazy.
Do you mean King Charles III? Who is Phil?

Sorry meant Charles

Re: Sarah Ferguson

Somertime — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 18:08:30 GMT

I am willing to give him some leeway, he has been on a very heavy, accelerated schedule since the death of his mother. All the travelling, on and off planes, ceremonies at Balmoral, Edinburgh, St, Giles, Buckingham Palace and then Westminster, Northern Ireland and Wales, Scotland, all the processions, meetings with Parliament, day to day dealings with being King and then grieving the loss of his mother and being 73 years old. An awful lot to deal with at one time in such a short period of time as well as an emotional one. It was, just, revealed that he found out his mother was in serious decline, just, before the announcement was made. I know at my age which is 3 years older than King Charles that I would have difficulty keeping the schedule he has maintained since he mother's death and this has nothing to do with having servants. The physical and emotional strain at this age would be exhausting.

I have no idea what changes he wishes to make and what he wants to implement to make his reign his own but I look forward to seeing what his reign will be.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

beckyb1012 — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 18:11:16 GMT

I prefer all the traditions, pomp and circumstance. Seems the majority of the people in England prefer it too considering the lines and crowds.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

Tinkrbl44 — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 18:13:15 GMT

@beach-mom wrote:
@10sluvr wrote:
@hopi wrote:
Phil appears to have issues and the monarchy may not last long if he doesn't do better. There have been at least 3 times since named king he has thrown mini fits with the camera's rolling. He needs to grow up. His bizarre rulings on who can do what and wear what is crazy.
i'm willing to cut him some slack. He is grieving the loss of his mother and being scrutinized while adjusting to a new role/life, isn't easy, no matter how much training you've had. Plus he's 73 years old and older people can get grouchy and stressed.

@10sluvr - So true! I felt so bad and noticed how he got really upset when his pen leaked. He's been preparing for this his whole life, but at the end of everything, he is a son who is missing the mother he had for 73 years. And he can't even miss her in private. He probably wants to just break down and cry, and postpone all of the ceremonial stuff. But he can't.

@beach-mom

I see your point, but two things come to mind ...

First, the guy has been apprenticing for 73 years .... he should have some things straight in his head by now.

Secondly, even though it's always a shock, he HAD to know his 96 year old mother would be passing soon.

If this is how he handles minor stresses, the media isn't going to be very kind to him.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

Love my grandkids — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 18:19:09 GMT

I was never a fan of either her or Randy Andy. I really loathed the way she came to this country and trashed people, mostly the women, who were on welfare.

I remember it clearly and have no use for her. She has never done without a d a m n thing. How dare she judge those in need?

And if she wants to keep house with a perv, so be it.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

Sooner — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 18:29:28 GMT

@hopi Of course Charles has issues! He was a disappointment to his father, his mother just died and good luck to anyone on filling those shoes, he has a son whose goal in life is to slander him, and at his advanced age he is having to bury his mom in public display for a week and a half and take over a kingdom with people looking to tear him to pieces at every move. All in his 70's and probably with health issues. . . who doesn't?

Yes, I'd sure agree he has issues!

Re: Sarah Ferguson

Imaoldhippie — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 18:31:30 GMT

@lgfan ...............He is not as old as President Biden.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

Imaoldhippie — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 18:34:33 GMT

Now we are telling another country they need to change their traditions? Even if they do its not our buisness. We need to clean out our closet first.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

Nancy Drew — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 18:37:25 GMT

Even when Charles was young he came off as a grumpy old man. I wonder even without Camillagate how long that marriage would have lasted with Diana. Maybe he is just tired and grieving but he has to chill out a little bit. Someone will get you a new pen and a wet wipe.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

Kachina624 — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 19:18:33 GMT

The Royal treatment of Sarah Ferguson over the years, considering her to be a pariah, just exemplifies how out of touch they are with modern times. She's a divorced, not a fallen woman, like millions of others.

They ought to be glad there's someone to look after Andrew and keep his dumb self out of further trouble.

Re: Sarah Ferguson

Sooner — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 19:05:21 GMT

@Kachina624 wrote:
The Royal treatment of Sarah Ferguson over the years, considering her to be a pariah, just exemplifies how out of touch they are with modern times. She's a divorced , not a fallen woman like millions of others.

They out to be glad there's someone to look after Andrew and keep his dumb self out of further trouble.

@Kachina624 I think they have been quite appropriate with Sarah and perhaps generous. They have put up with a lot from her, and to do more would be to condone her activities. They are probably more generous toward her than most people.

When you sign on to be part of the Royal Family, it isn't difficult to understand at least the high points of what will be expected. Lots of what she has done was certainly out of bounds. And like Diana, she was raised with the Royal Family. . . it isn't like they didn't know.