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Bend, Oregon Mess....

gertrudecloset — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 14:03:55 GMT

Here we go again. Senseless.......

Officers were dispatched to the Safeway at the Forum Shopping Center shortly after 7 p.m. after receiving reports of shots fired, the Bend Police Department said in a statement.

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Nancy Drew — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 15:44:07 GMT

On top of that Chicago this weekend 35 shot 9 fatally. We have a problem with people who have no regard for others. Here we go again about sums it up.

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gertrudecloset — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 15:50:38 GMT

@Nancy Drew wrote:
On top of that Chicago this weekend 35 shot 9 fatally. We have a problem with people who have no regard for others. Here we go again about sums it up.

Yes and in Detroit too. I think the Detroit one might have been a spree because it didn't happen all at once.

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JamandBread — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 15:52:48 GMT

Once again an AR is used. The weapon of choice for mass murderers.

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gertrudecloset — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 15:53:52 GMT

I think the shooting that happened at the Mall of America in Minnesota earlier this month has video footage. I find that distasteful, but there is a youtube video showing people running for their lives.

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gertrudecloset — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 15:58:15 GMT

8/28/2022

(Wisconsin) TOWN OF CLINTON—Four people were shot and wounded during an apparent outdoor party in rural Clinton late Saturday or early Sunday.

Neighbors said a party on a farm property had raged around the clock Saturday into the early-morning hours in the 9200 block of Little Lane in the town of Clinton. Rock County Sheriff’s Office authorities received a report of a shooting at about 12:35 a.m. Three shooting victims were transported to area hospitals before law enforcement authorities arrived on the scene. One gunshot victim was found on the scene and was taken to Mercy Hospital in Janesville via ambulance, according to a news release from the Rock County Sheriff’s Office.

By mid-morning Sunday, police had left the scene of the shooting at 9221 E. Little Lane, the only house on a cul-de-sac just northeast of the Highway 140/Interstate 43 interchange outside the village of Clinton.

Police have not released the names of anyone involved in the shooting.

In addition to the Rock County Sheriff’

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grandma petes — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 18:39:51 GMT

My son lives there. One of his good friends was in the store when it happened. I've been in that Safeway with him several times when I visited. It's so scary. Much more will most likely be learned as time goes on....

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Trailrun23 — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 19:03:50 GMT

the last report i saw about the Safeway shooting in Oregon said the shooter killed himself after killing a customer in the front of the store and another shopper in the back of the store.One other injured. The police never had to fire any shots since the shooter took his own life before they arrived.

My DH stayed in the car while I went inside the grocery store to pick some milk last week. He wasn't in the same place when I came back outside; he said a suspicious-looking guy was wandering around the parking lot; since we have heard about carjacking being a big problem lately, he decided to drive to the other side of the parking lot. He confessed he felt vulnerable; something I never thought I would hear him say. Where can we go and feel safe now?

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scatcat — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 19:07:33 GMT

Did the shooter commit suicide?

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skatting44 — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 22:07:31 GMT

NPR article School Shooters : Understanding their path to violence is key to prevention.

Many of the same issues in these children can be applied to adults who are mass shooters

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/02/10/690372199/school-shooters-whats-their-path-to-violence

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aroc3435 — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 22:25:09 GMT

@skatting44 Thank you for sharing the link to that enlightening piece. Much to absorb.

aroc34

Washington, DC

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Porcelain — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 22:41:53 GMT

Yesterday two guys got arrested one town over from mine. It's the suburbs. Shot each other during an argument outside a bar. Pretty predictable. At least they missed the bystanders.

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skatting44 — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 22:43:59 GMT

A very good book on the subject available on Amazon by Jillian Petersen PH.d and James Densley . Winner of the 2022 Minnesota book award

" The Violence Project : How to stop a Mass Shooting Epidemic. "

" An examination of the phenomenon of mass shootings in America and an urgent call to implement evidence-based strategies to stop these tragedies "

"Their goal was to establish the root causes of mass shootings and figure out how to stop them by examining hundreds of data points in the life histories of more than 170 mass shooters—from their childhood and adolescence to their mental health and motives. They’ve also interviewed the living perpetrators of mass shootings and people who knew them, shooting survivors, victims’ families, first responders, and leading experts to gain a comprehensive firsthand understanding of the real stories behind them, rather than the sensationalized media narratives that too often prevail. "

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beach-mom — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 22:48:15 GMT

I saw the city. One of DH's friends from a long time ago lives there. I've never been, but I got the impression it was a comfortable, close-knit town.

Prayers for everyone in harm's way there.

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september — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 22:49:55 GMT

@scatcat wrote:
Did the shooter commit suicide?

I heard he did

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hckynutjohn — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 05:11:37 GMT

@gertrudecloset wrote:
Here we go again. Senseless.......

Officers were dispatched to the Safeway at the Forum Shopping Center shortly after 7 p.m. after receiving reports of shots fired, the Bend Police Department said in a statement.

@gertrudecloset

Is this the place where 2 innocents were killed, and the perp? Senseless is much kinder than words I commonly use.

hckynut 🇺🇸

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Sooner — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 05:22:49 GMT

Not to mention the on-going gang violence that is so rampant in many cities, and has been for decades. Not stopping this has led to an underlying acceptance of violence at a certain level. It's coming back to bite us.

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Porcelain — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 19:30:59 GMT

@Sooner wrote:
Not to mention the on-going gang violence that is so rampant in many cities, and has been for decades. Not stopping this has led to an underlying acceptance of violence at a certain level. It's coming back to bite us.

I don't think the hotheads who shot each other outside a bar near me were influenced by law enforcement policies about gangs in other states.

I think they were just mad and drunk and had guns right to hand.

Sometimes the simplest explanation is best.

Maybe people around you have developed acceptance of violence at a certain level, and for the reasons you state. I have not.

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gertrudecloset — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 19:34:26 GMT

@Sooner wrote:
Not to mention the on-going gang violence that is so rampant in many cities, and has been for decades. Not stopping this has led to an underlying acceptance of violence at a certain level. It's coming back to bite us.

@Sooner You need to understand that gangs are "organized crime." Lone wolves (not militia groups or gangs work in tandem) are the problem in this thread. Individuals who are mad at the world (for whatever reason) who want to take it out on everyone around them. At least before you comment, know what you're talking about. Gangs ARE ORGANIZED CRIME like the MAFIA.

They protect their turf; fight for their turf, kill rival gang members over their turf and other such awful things. This is not the same as Bob going into a school, supermarket, workplace to shoot people.

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Sooner — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 19:35:38 GMT

@gertrudecloset wrote:
@Sooner wrote:
Not to mention the on-going gang violence that is so rampant in many cities, and has been for decades. Not stopping this has led to an underlying acceptance of violence at a certain level. It's coming back to bite us.
@Sooner You need to understand that gangs are "organized crime." Lone wolves (not militia groups or gangs work in tandem) are the problem in this thread. Individuals who are mad at the world (for whatever reason) who want to take it out on everyone around them. At least before you comment, know what you're talking about. Gangs ARE ORGANIZED CRIME like the MAFIA.

They protect their turf; fight for their turf, kill rival gang members over their turf and other such awful things. This is not the same as Bob going into a school, supermarket, workplace to shoot people.

@gertrudecloset So sorry you are having to spend so much time correcting me today. . .And I can agree with you. But then we'd both be wrong!