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For those of you who have to change clocks because of DST

Meowingkitty — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:46:34 GMT

The Senate on Tuesday approved a proposal to make Daylight Saving Time permanent, which if passed in the House and signed by President Biden, would mean Americans would never again have to set their clocks back an hour and lose an hour of afternoon daylight in the fall and winter.

Won't take effect until November 2023 but at least it's something. This doesn't affect me because I live in Arizona but maybe this time something will happen.

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Mz iMac — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:35:18 GMT

It's good for children who have to wait for the school bus in the dark.

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sunshine 919 — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:37:30 GMT

@Meowingkitty wrote:
The Senate on Tuesday approved a proposal to make Daylight Saving Time permanent, which if passed in the House and signed by President Biden, would mean Americans would never again have to set their clocks back an hour and lose an hour of afternoon daylight in the fall and winter.

Won't take effect until November 2023 but at least it's something.

Wow all the important things the senate could pass and this is what they are working on. There are no words lol. They seem to deny everything.

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SilleeMee — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:39:32 GMT

Why don't they leave it at Standard Time?? That's what I would like.

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arrabella — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:41:43 GMT

Here in Cali, we voted for that a few years ago but so far we are still on the time change twice a year. Don't know why it hasn't been changed.

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ID2 — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:45:20 GMT

Bummer. I LOVE the time changes.

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CrazyKittyLvr2 — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:45:23 GMT

@Mz iMac I read that with DST in December sunrise would not be until 8:30am. Kids will still be waiting in the dark.

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Mz iMac — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:52:40 GMT

@CrazyKittyLvr2 Some of the towns in my neck of the woods changed the school opening hours for grade schools & middle schools so the children would not have to go to school in the dark.

High schoolers still have to ride, drive and/or walk to school in the dark.

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beckyb1012 — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:12:22 GMT

I prefer Standard. At 7:00 a.m. this morning it was still dark as night. My granddaughter is picked up at 7:00 by the bus.

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Krimpette — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:15:14 GMT

Winter months are already so gloomy sometimes. I can't imagine sunrise not occurring until 8:30AM!!!!!!!!!m I hope TPTB have thought this out thoroguhly before inflicting this on us. (Admittedly, I was hoping for standard time all year.)

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faeriemoon — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:16:08 GMT

@Mz iMac wrote:
It's good for children who have to wait for the school bus in the dark.

Actually, it's not. Here in CT, when I was in 7th grade, we experimented with DST all year long. The major problem was that it didn't get light until after 8 am, and kids were at the bus stop at 7 am in the dark. All year DST didn't last past the experimental year. I think there will be a lot of flack, particularly from citizens in the more northern latitudes over this change (if it passes.)

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geezerette — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:18:25 GMT

Bill to make daylight saving time permanent passes Senate

by: NexStar Media Wire

Posted: Mar 15, 2022 / 02:46 PM CDT

Updated: Mar 15, 2022 / 03:00 PM CDT

(NEXSTAR) – A proposal to make daylight saving time permanent in the U.S. cleared the Senate Tuesday and now heads to the House of Representatives.

The Sunshine Protection Act would need to be approved by the House and then signed into law by President Joe Biden before it became official. Even then, it wouldn’t take effect until Nov. 20, 2023, to allow airlines and other industries to prepare, reports Reuters.

That means we would “fall back” for the final time in November 2023, then “spring forward” again once and for all in March 2024.

The change would mean later sunsets in the winter months, but it would also mean later sunrises.

For example, the sun typically rises around 7:15 a.m. and sets around 4:30 p.m. on the first day of winter in New York City. Permanent daylight saving time would change sunrise to 8:15 a.m. and sunset to 5:30 p.m.

Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, who sponsored the bill, touted various benefits of permanent daylight saving on the Senate floor, reports The Hill.

“There’s strong science behind it that is now showing and making people aware of the harm that clock switching has, there’s an increase in heart attacks, car accidents and pedestrian accidents,” he said.

Rubio and other Sunshine Protection Act supporters also say it would reduce crime in the evening hours and encourage more after-school physical activity for kids.

Most Americans just got done setting their clocks forwards an hour on Sunday when daylight saving time began. Hawaii and most of Arizona don’t observe the time change.

[Emphasis mine.]

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beckyb1012 — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:27:09 GMT

Why not just put it on the ballot for the next Presidential election. Let the people decide which one they prefer.

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meallen616 — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:27:36 GMT

Daylight Saving Time,

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Mz iMac — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:27:52 GMT

@faeriemoon Scoll up to my last post in this thread. You blinked too fast.

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Sooner — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:33:18 GMT

My first choice? Leave it as it is. One hour either way shouldn't disrupt lives. And kids go to school when it is lighter. How many non-automatic clocks can one person have that it is traumatic for them?

My pesonal preference? One hundred percent Daylight saving time ALL year EVERY year! I love love love longer daylight!

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spiderw — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:42:06 GMT

I have never had a problem with the time change. I favor the Fall and Winter months and do not mind if it is darker earlier. I also don't see this as an urgent situation, there are far too many issues more important to me. However, to each his or her own, just my opinion.

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On It — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:59:56 GMT

If it becomes permanent with no changes throughout the year, then school districts and businesses will have the flexibility to permanently change hours. Schools may want to begin the day at 9:00 am instead of 8am and dismiss at 4 pm instead of 3. Being flexible with hours may be the only solution to waiting in the dark for buses to arrive.

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hckynutjohn — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 21:20:37 GMT

@Meowingkitty

I read where senator Sinema of Arizona was heard saying loudly "YES"!! Met a fellow at the ice rink Sunday that moved here from your state say it took him awhile to adjust. So I thought Arizona was not on DST, were they not?

An adamant yes for me, but then it is far from becoming a fact. It has passed only 1 of the 3.

hckynut 🇺🇸

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Kachina624 — Tue, 15 Mar 2022 21:26:12 GMT

I'll believe it when I see it. That bill has been floating around Congress for years, as well as in various state legislatures which can pass it but must get Congressional approval to implement it. It's such a sensible solution to all the complaints, it should have been passed years ago.