topic Re: Important Topics in Community Chat

Important Topics

Sapphiregal — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 15:48:06 GMT

This proabably won't stay up very long, but, I just feel compelled to say that I am tired of topics that concern all of us - the world we live in today, so to speak, being deleted by the mods. A thread (that was not political) that I commented on yesterday was taken down. It was merely a prayer for those under attack. That is a humanity issue, IMO.

It seems we are only allowed to discuss "frivolous" topics. As I am really not into those topics, I am saying goodbye to these boards.

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Johnnyeager — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 15:50:03 GMT

It was fine initially and could have remained so.

But rules were violated when overtly religious posts were made.

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kitcat51 — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 15:50:32 GMT

When you gotta go.....Go, no need to announce it.

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DREAMON — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 15:54:07 GMT

A thread that has been going for many years was taken out of Among Friends yesterday. I have no idea why this happened.

At this point I think they are just giving the posters a reason to stop posting so they can close the boards down JMO.

Re: Important Topics

JamandBread — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 15:54:50 GMT

@Sapphiregal

Have you joined mellygproboards? Many people from here post there. The board has pages of thoughts, information and generally good discussion on topics you really can't discuss here.

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Love my grandkids — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:01:16 GMT

@Sapphiregal I'll steal a line I saw somewhere: This isn't an airport, no need to announce your departure LOL.

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smoochy — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:01:35 GMT

I don't visit a shopping venue forum to talk about world events, politics etc. I come here to escape and talk about shopping. And people post news events that are easily found elsewhere. Like celebrities deaths, school shootings, you name it. Why on earth would anyone want or need to see copied and pasted news on a shopping forum?! Frankly it has always surprised me that QVC even offers the Community Chat topic. It needs to be eliminated.

Re: Important Topics

Johnnyeager — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:08:28 GMT

There's very little of any interest or value here beyond Community Chat and Movies, to me.

The boards needed to be reformulated to suit your desires? What arrogance.

Don't read Community Chat if it offends.

Re: Important Topics

ScrapHappy — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:13:31 GMT

I started a thread the other day. It was about our gas bill, it went up $300, almost double what we normally pay. That's pretty much all I posted, definitely not political and it's gone. I don't know what happened.

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Foxxee — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:32:13 GMT

There could be a legal reason, fear of being sued by a few who might blame QVC for allowing members to say certain things they don't like.

There was a time when we could say certain words that are now offensive to some.

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geezerette — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:19:52 GMT

@ScrapHappy wrote:
I started a thread the other day. It was about our gas bill, it went up $300, almost double what we normally pay. That's pretty much all I posted, definitely not political and it's gone. I don't know what happened.

It was most likely the subsequent posters that took your thread into forbidden territory. I read some of the thread and could see that the subject was just too tempting for some. I figured the thread would get shut down.

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deepwaterdotter — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:28:13 GMT

A ham sandwich takes on political overtones nowadays.

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beach-mom — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:41:51 GMT

@geezerette wrote:
@ScrapHappy wrote:
I started a thread the other day. It was about our gas bill, it went up $300, almost double what we normally pay. That's pretty much all I posted, definitely not political and it's gone. I don't know what happened.
It was most likely the subsequent posters that took your thread into forbidden territory. I read some of the thread and could see that the subject was just too tempting for some. I figured the thread would get shut down.

@ScrapHappy - @geezerette is right. This has happened to me some too. I post and enjoy the early discussion, then come back hours later and find the thread closed or gone.

I usually email the Social Team to see what happened, and they have answered me all but one time.

It's just sad when we don't know what happened.

I saw your post yesterday and didn't see anything wrong with it. My guess is someone made it political.

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ScrapHappy — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:46:01 GMT

@beach-mom wrote:
@geezerette wrote:
@ScrapHappy wrote:
I started a thread the other day. It was about our gas bill, it went up $300, almost double what we normally pay. That's pretty much all I posted, definitely not political and it's gone. I don't know what happened.
It was most likely the subsequent posters that took your thread into forbidden territory. I read some of the thread and could see that the subject was just too tempting for some. I figured the thread would get shut down.
@ScrapHappy - @geezerette is right. This has happened to me some too. I post and enjoy the early discussion, then come back hours later and find the thread closed or gone.

I usually email the Social Team to see what happened, and they have answered me all but one time.

It's just sad when we don't know what happened.

I saw your post yesterday and didn't see anything wrong with it. My guess is someone made it political.

Thank you, I did not know that. I thought it was something on my part.

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Greeneyedlady21 — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:01:36 GMT

I find it hard to believe that anyone wouldn't realize that starting a thread about any sort of prices wouldn't end up that way. Especially since it happens all the time here.

Community chat has become the price complaint forum, and that's not for no reason.

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moonandthestars — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:24:13 GMT

@Foxxee wrote:
There could be a legal reason, fear of being sued by a few who might blame QVC for allowing members to say certain things. I've seen this happen. It resulted in just what you are seeing here. No one can say anything about those subjects.

I've seen this happen with news organizations. Even if it was the truth, they were sued.

However, your reason might be why we can't get more members.

I had been watching sometimes 3-4 times a day checking how many members and guests were online.

At any one of the times, there usually were only around 200 members and 1000-1700 guests during the day and early evening.

Hi @Foxxee I don't really understand what the legal liability could be? Could you explain a bit more? I mean this is not a news organization, not even pretending to be one. we're on a chat/message board - just people sharing personal thoughts, observations, experiences and opinions about a variety of topics.

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dooBdoo — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 21:11:10 GMT

This is long (no surprise, right?😜😉🙃) and might be an unpopular view but I need to share my feelings.

I think that we are giving them reasons to close down the community.

Many of us protested -- and loudly -- when the QVC Community shutdown was announced...

yet then, not long after we were "heard" and the shutdown was cancelled, we began, again, to ignore the published standards for participation and community guidelines.

We resumed pushing the limits, seeing if our posts would be allowed to stand.

We resumed trying to force it to be something it is not.

We might not like or agree with the policies that clearly state no politics, no religious content, etc., but we do agree to abide by them when we use this public forum which, after all, is paid for by the business and as their property is their right to moderate as they feel is in their best interest.

I saw what happened to two removed threads (one in Community Chat, one in Among Friends) that were intended as prayer requests for the people of Ukraine, and it was easy to see what actually happened to them and to see it was only a matter of time before they were removed.

As a person of life-long and deep faith, I was profoundly disappointed in the religious content changes but at this point don't understand why this misunderstanding and debate continues.

It was 5 1/2 years ago when the changes were added, the QVC Social Team did spend quite a bit of time answering questions and explaining why that was added, and they've been very consistent in removing prayers, scripture, and religious discussions.

"Controversial Topic Guideline Change

‎09-22-2016

To keep an atmosphere in the community of fairness, discussion of religion will be prohibited as a controversial topic. Wishing or asking someone for “prayers” will be allowed as this is an expression of comfort. Religious or controversial signature lines will be deleted.

Thank you for your understanding.

QVC Community Team"

(https://community.qvc.com/t5/Welcome-Get-Started/Controversial-Topic-Guideline-Change/m-p/3148446#M14)

They still allow a substantial amount of spiritual posting, gentle expressions of faith, supportive kindness,

and nothing prevents us from allowing our personal faith to shine brightly

in the way we act,

the energy we bring here and share,

and the way we treat one another.

As this is their property, it is also their right to close it down forever... if we continue to push the envelope, I have no doubt it will close and not reopen this time.

Trying to make this forum something it is not is a futile endeavor... trying to sneak in, or even overtly add, things that require more careful monitoring isn't clever or helpful and it does nothing but make this a greater liability (financially and otherwise) for Qurate.

When we participate in activities of this nature we are pushing the place off the cliff... even though we protested the closure and helped pull back the community away from that cliff only a few months ago.

If we need to place blame, doesn't at least some of it fall on our shoulders?

Don't we have a responsibility to know the policies, terms of posting, and abide by them?

I've been away due to health problems that have required me to limit reading and posting, but even so I always knew all of my posting friends from all these years past were still here and still working to make this a supportive community.

I don't want to see this forum go away for good... but it might be going down that path.

Sorry for the typical long-winded rant. I understand not everyone agrees with me... but continuing to try and jam that round peg into a square hole is going to damage the sustainability and future of this crazy place.

We have personal responsibility here, don't we?

I care about this place and the people, the human beings on the other side of that screen, who populate it, and even with other venues I'll miss this community of friends if and when it is closed.

I hope all of you are safe and well.

Take care.❤️

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smoochy — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:31:51 GMT

@Johnnyeager wrote:
There's very little of any interest or value here beyond Community Chat and Movies, to me.

The boards needed to be reformulated to suit your desires? What arrogance.

Don't read Community Chat if it offends.

Get over yourself. If this is the only place you can get world news and movies discussion, good for you. As for arrogance, nope. I'm allowed to express my opinion just as you are. Lighten up.

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rms1954 — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:41:05 GMT

@Sapphiregal wrote:
This proabably won't stay up very long, but, I just feel compelled to say that I am tired of topics that concern all of us - the world we live in today, so to speak, being deleted by the mods. A thread (that was not political) that I commented on yesterday was taken down. It was merely a prayer for those under attack. That is a humanity issue, IMO.

It seems we are only allowed to discuss "frivolous" topics. As I am really not into those topics, I am saying goodbye to these boards.

I believe that thread was removed because it included religious aspects which is not allowed.

Re: Important Topics

BlueFinch — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:37:15 GMT

@Sapphiregal Having been on some forums with minimal moderation and all topics allowed, I fully understand the need to have some firm rules.

Religion and politics are very divisive topics, that can start out lovely, but devolve into hate filled remarks. I even witnessed physical threats.

I try my best to get along with everyone, but I was confronted, too. Nasty comments about physical punishment I should receive.

One lady found one of the posters she disagreed with, sharing her location, threatening her and her little dog, too. For a ridiculous, petty disagreement.

Not everyone around us is wrapped tight. We dwell amongst loose canons. It's best to have a shield of protection.