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What's Wrong with People?

PickyPicky3 — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 22:23:47 GMT

A woman was raped on a Philadelphia commuter train Wednesday night at 10:00 pm in full view of the other passengers. No one intervened or called 911, even when the woman lost consciousness. A train employee entered that car for a routine check and immediately called 911.

Everything was caught on camera and the rapist has been arrested.

According to police, there were many people in the train car.

How is this possible?

For more details, search SEPTA RAPE.

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deepwaterdotter — Sun, 17 Oct 2021 18:42:52 GMT

Maybe 'snitches get stitches' situation?

No wonder why I have a concealed carry permit, at least I have a fighting chance .

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minimalistWF — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 22:35:41 GMT

Wow how ridiculous!!

If it was me, I would have texted 911 if I felt scared to actually call on my phone. No reason why a group of people wouldn't intervene though. Really sad for this woman.

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Foxxee — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 22:37:48 GMT

The problem today is you help someone and police arrest you for helping. Yes...it's that bad!

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SilleeMee — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 22:41:54 GMT

Maybe the passengers didn't know what was going on. Maybe the victim was not able to yell for help. There's no way to know what happened unless I was there or saw the surveillance video. The whole story is not there so I can't comment on the passengers.

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Winkk — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 22:40:51 GMT

I live in the Philly suburbs and heard that on the news. I just can't believe not one person called 911. I bet some were filming it and will post on YouTube or something. Disgustng.

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Pearlee — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 22:44:35 GMT

This isn't just a recent phenomenon, for those of us who remember the Kitty Genovese case in NYC in the 1960s. If you don't, Google it.

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Buffalogal47 — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 22:48:07 GMT

People are reverting to savagery. That's what happens when morals are abandoned and anything goes.

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Love my grandkids — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 22:51:44 GMT

@Pearlee I'm 73 and remember that horrifying event very clearly.

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hckynut — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 22:57:06 GMT

@PickyPicky3 wrote:
A woman was raped on a Philadelphia commuter train Wednesday night at 10:00 pm in full view of the other passengers. No one intervened or called 911, even when the woman lost consciousness. A train employee entered that car for a routine check and immediately called 911.

Everything was caught on camera and the rapist has been arrested.

According to police, there were many people in the train car.

How is this possible?

For more details, search SEPTA RAPE.

@PickyPicky3

Ever notice on the news there always seems to be a video, most I am guessing are made using a cell phone.

Now what is important to you and I is someone helping this lady, or at least calling 911. To others getting a "like" on their social media for their video is a top priority. Thus, in my book, another reason I do not like cell phones, unless used as a telephone, period!

I am with you on this one. WWYD? I am not sure, but if it were here in my City? I would holler, then pull out my 9mm, and go from there. Hopefully that would be all that was necessary to stop this atrocious assult.

It's a different world now and sometimes I wonder who is on our side!

hckynut

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chrystaltree — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 22:58:47 GMT

Omg. I could not believe what I was reading. Not a single person picked up the phone to dial 911. I'm sure there were men on that train, why didn't they band together to stop the assault? It's a shame they can't arrest the people on that train for being an accessory to rape.

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SXMGirl — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 23:04:41 GMT

How horrific for that young woman. Thankfully, the rapist was arrested, but shame on anyone on that train who saw and did nothing. I do believe that most people are in their own worlds when using public transport today, because people are on their phone and have ear buds in with loud music. However, there were people on that train who did not want to get involved.

At some point, we have to turn a corner and stop with the violence and name-calling that our society seems to thrive on. As we get older, we should all be very concerned as to what is happening, not just for ourselves, but for our families. As DH and I think about downsizing, we are hesitant to leave our current home because our neighbors are wonderful and I feel very safe here. I wonder how long that will last and whether any place that we move to will be safe.

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Sooner — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 23:07:22 GMT

With all the "I don't judge" going around, we have lost the ability to know when to excuse a social faux pas and when to call the police.

Something I read long ago as humor. Now it's reality. But I don't judge. . . We don't judge. It isn't your fault, it's how you were raised and we can fix that. Some day.

We don't even expect people to know right from wrong any more. And Hillary was right, it takes a village but the village has long since bowed out.

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manny2 — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 23:08:44 GMT

You are right @hckynut imagine making the conscious effort to record an unimaginable act rather then trying to get help.

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hckynut — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 23:10:37 GMT

@chrystaltree wrote:
Omg. I could not believe what I was reading. Not a single person picked up the phone to dial 911. I'm sure there were men on that train, why didn't they band together to stop the assault? It's a shame they can't arrest the people on that train for being an accessory to rape.

@chrystaltree

I agree! If there were men there you would like to think they might re-enact what was done on Flight 93 in 2001. I realize these men would not be facing certain death, as were the Real Men on that flight. But no, nobody came to her aid. SAD!

It's really a shame seeing what has, and is happening, in our world these days.

hckynut

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proudlyfromNJ — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 23:12:50 GMT

@Pearlee wrote:
This isn't just a recent phenomenon, for those of us who remember the Kitty Genovese case in NYC in the 1960s. If you don't, Google it.

@Pearlee I certainly do remember Kitty Genovese. No one in that building who heard her screaming called the police. Yes, 1960's. She died.

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manny2 — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 23:17:30 GMT

I just read the story. The entire rape is caught on surveillance tape. The police confirm there were many people in the position to get help yet none did. It is sickening, and shows how detached we are from one another.

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tiny 2 — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 23:19:14 GMT

@Pearlee wrote:
This isn't just a recent phenomenon, for those of us who remember the Kitty Genovese case in NYC in the 1960s. If you don't, Google it.

@Pearlee, There was a documentary about that on Netflix. I did not realize that she made it inside the building after being stabbed twice in the back and the door was locked so she was in a hallway. He left when someone shouted to leave her alone but then came back10 minutes later, started searching for her and found her inside and stabbed her more then raped her. The movie was called The Witness. It did fill in a lot of detail. Her brother and the friend that found her, held her until the ambulance got there also give their thoughts.

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violann — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 23:26:12 GMT

Kitty Genovese.

Say her name.

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RedTop — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 23:23:22 GMT

There is a such a thing as being charged for failure to render aid, which is a misdemeanor or felony, depending on circumstances. I am actually following a local case of this, that resulted in the death of a sibling of someone I know very well.

I would hope an investigation of this incident will determine whether charges apply to any bystanders.