topic Re: The sky isn't falling in Community Chat

The sky isn't falling

lulu1 — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 15:26:26 GMT

Be glad QVC gave a month's warning about closing these forums. I 've been on sites that one day they were in full swing, then the next day gone.

Alternatives have been established. It is not the end of the world.

I know many have established close friendships but if they are important, they will continue.

I am puzzled why you'd stopped shopping somewhere (better still, return orders) just because they've given notice they were discontinuing their forums.

Change is not always bad.

Re: The sky isn't falling

Bhvbum — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 15:36:46 GMT

but we adults have that choice of who we do business with. I just took a survey by QVC, and I was not asked any question on the areas that I have the biggest issues with. Not one question about:

that in your face constant pop-ups, Like "going going going going..."

Many sites that sell shoes have ways to measure your foot to determine the size and compare that to the size of the shoe that's been offered.

Making a commitment that they are not able keep for shipping and delivery times.

QVC is a huge customer to a lot of manufacturing, why have they not forced shoe manufactures to carry size 10 1/2? More talls? etc.

The very popular Forum that has given QVC members a sense of community, we grew the company, and now is being canceled.

That survey I took was fishing with the right questions for just the right answers to get the right outcome.

Re: The sky isn't falling

haddon9 — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 15:39:42 GMT

@lulu1 While I'm okay with most of your message, I just had to put my 2 cents in with your last line...."change is not always bad". No, it's not however for many who are retired, work from home or just don't get out much due to the pandemic, many felt that the Q forum was a bit of a lifeline.

Change is not good when your world gets smaller which unfortunately is happening to a lot of people.

I for one have not been doing so great over the last several months. Though I don't live alone (many do), I have a feeling that we will be spending the holidays zooming with family like we did last year....I am sick of it! Then we have a long cold winter to deal with. I'm surprised that the Q has done this before the holidays.

Re: The sky isn't falling

rms1954 — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 15:54:49 GMT

@lulu1 Acting like it's the end of their world. And maybe it is, and I find that sad.

Re: The sky isn't falling

MG Chris — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:00:31 GMT

@haddon9 wrote:
@lulu1 While I'm okay with most of your message, I just had to put my 2 cents in with your last line...."change is not always bad". No, it's not however for many who are retired, work from home or just don't get out much due to the pandemic, many felt that the Q forum was a bit of a lifeline.

Change is not good when your world gets smaller which unfortunately is happening to a lot of people.

I for one have not been doing so great over the last several months. Though I don't live alone (many do), I have a feeling that we will be spending the holidays zooming with family like we did last year....I am sick of it! Then we have a long cold winter to deal with. I'm surprised that the Q has done this before the holidays.

They have been given an alternative over at pro boards. Yes, it is different but just like here it can be made to feel like home. I have seen several posts over there that people actually like it better.

Re: The sky isn't falling

Group 5 minus 1 — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:05:26 GMT

I think the boards have become less pleasant and more snarky.

Ganging up on members is not a great idea.

Too much stuff about religion.

Expressing opinions,but beating up those that disagree.

I am truly surprised (as is another) that these are being closed before the holidays.

I have also gotten the feeling the that products are geting harder and harder to delivier in a timely manner.

Lots of complaints about the above.

And yes, the sky maybe falling.

Re: The sky isn't falling

Pearlee — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:06:12 GMT

@lulu1 wrote:
Be glad QVC gave a month's warning about closing these forums. I 've been on sites that one day they were in full swing, then the next day gone.

Alternatives have been established. It is not the end of the world.

I know many have established close friendships but if they are important, they will continue.

I am puzzled why you'd stopped shopping somewhere (better still, return orders) just because they've given notice they were discontinuing their forums.

Change is not always bad.

@lulu1 IMO the people who wrote they are returning items won't really do it.

Re: The sky isn't falling

lulu1 — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:07:58 GMT

If I have offended anyone, I am truly sorry. That was not my intention.

I can certainly empathize with anyone confined to his/her home, feeling alone and/or infirmed.

Trust me, our family knows all too well how the pandemic can change lives forever. I, personally know how being retired and ill can make your world feel small.

If I could I'd delete this thread, but it is too late for that.

Re: The sky isn't falling

kaydee50 — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:08:01 GMT

@rms1954 wrote:
@lulu1 Acting like it's the end of their world. And maybe it is, and I find that sad.

I too find it sad that so many seemed to be so distressed about the forums disappearing. QVC is a shopping channel, as I've said many times before, or it should be, and it is in business to be profitable. It would seem these forums are not contributing to the bottom line and probably are even an expense to keep going. I've enjoyed my time here but I won't be joining any other social media sites. And I will continue to shop here, limited though that is, in the future if I see something I want to purchase.

Re: The sky isn't falling

Sage04 — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:24:07 GMT

@lulu1 wrote:
If I have offended anyone, I am truly sorry. That was not my intention.

I can certainly empathize with anyone confined to his/her home, feeling alone and/or infirmed.

Trust me, our family knows all too well how the pandemic can change lives forever. I, personally know how being retired and ill can make your world feel small.

If I could I'd delete this thread, but it is too late for that.

@lulu1 why would you want to delete the Thread? Others are saying whatever, so why shouldn't you. I feel the same as you do. No big deal. You don't have to apologize. I will still continue shopping here and that's my choice.

Re: The sky isn't falling

Bri369 — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:24:12 GMT

@Pearlee wrote:
@lulu1 wrote:
Be glad QVC gave a month's warning about closing these forums. I 've been on sites that one day they were in full swing, then the next day gone.

Alternatives have been established. It is not the end of the world.

I know many have established close friendships but if they are important, they will continue.

I am puzzled why you'd stopped shopping somewhere (better still, return orders) just because they've given notice they were discontinuing their forums.

Change is not always bad.
@lulu1 IMO the people who wrote they are returning items won't really do it.

@Pearlee You have absolutely no way of knowing that.

Re: The sky isn't falling

Pearlee — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:29:36 GMT

@Bri369 wrote:
@Pearlee wrote:
@lulu1 wrote:
Be glad QVC gave a month's warning about closing these forums. I 've been on sites that one day they were in full swing, then the next day gone.

Alternatives have been established. It is not the end of the world.

I know many have established close friendships but if they are important, they will continue.

I am puzzled why you'd stopped shopping somewhere (better still, return orders) just because they've given notice they were discontinuing their forums.

Change is not always bad.
@lulu1 IMO the people who wrote they are returning items won't really do it.
@PearleeYou have absolutely no way of knowing that.

@Bri369 😂😂😂 Of course not, hence I wrote "IMO."

Geez if you are going to stalk me around just to diss my posts as you do, at least read them right. FYI IMO means "in my opinion."

Re: The sky isn't falling

Trinity11 — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:41:51 GMT

I can tell you why I won't shop here anymore @lulu1 ... I do not watch QVC and the only reason I shop here are the recommendations from the posters here. I will have no interest in perusing the website once the forums are gone.

I feel a lot like how I felt when Lord and Taylor closed. Sadly, my shopping habits and how I dress were not current enough to keep my beloved store in business. Change is inevitable. I will look back fondly on the encounters I had here. I, don't believe this forum can be duplicated anywhere but I remain hopeful that I will be proved wrong.🌸💐

Re: The sky isn't falling

gidgetgh — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:55:04 GMT

Of course it's not the end of the world. But, it is yet another unwanted change in a world that is in a weird state (couldn't think of anything better to say) right now. People are uncertain and on edge and crave familiarity.

Change can be good, change can be bad and change can just be change.

Just speaking for me, I could do with a little less change for awhile, LOL. My world, along with millions and millions of others, has been turned upside down. I find, that when everything is swirling around me, and I am unsettled and uncertain, I seek out the familiar, the routine. Things that may not be earth shattering, but make sense in my world and so you grab on to that.

Your favorite groceries being in stock at your grocery store. Not having to look everywhere for toilet paper. Not having Face Time holidays with relatives. Turning on your favorite tv show at 9:00 PM and it's on and you can watch. Browsing Facebook if you'd like. Read and post on your message board, etc.

The routine and the mundane bring me great comfort in uncertain times. That, by gosh, there ARE things that remain constant and don't change. It's comforting. In the end, it is just a message board and the world won't end when it closes. But some of us are living much "smaller" lives than we used to and I just do a heavy sigh when another unexpected, unwanted change comes along.

Re: The sky isn't falling

LibbyLib — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 17:02:29 GMT

@lulu1 wrote:
If I have offended anyone, I am truly sorry. That was not my intention.

I can certainly empathize with anyone confined to his/her home, feeling alone and/or infirmed.

Trust me, our family knows all too well how the pandemic can change lives forever. I, personally know how being retired and ill can make your world feel small.

If I could I'd delete this thread, but it is too late for that.

@lulu1 It's really gracious of you to rethink what you wrote after hearing the opinions of others. Far too few people who should do that are capable of it. We form opinions without the contribution of others, and you were flexible enough to validate the opinions of others like a collaboration. You are correct, however - all change isn't bad. You proved it by flexing in your thought process. That's actually an executive function in our brains. Many people haven't developed that ability, however, and it reflects in the panic and emotion you are seeing. Change and evolution is essential for survival. We see it in nature - the seasons, for example. We must accept change, adapt and survive. Thank you for your insight and compassion. Don't wish you could undo this - it's a valued experience.

Q is a for-profit business, and managing a forum, no matter how important to some, isn't worth a single staff member (moderators) when they aren't able to ship on time or manage timely customer service responses due to lack of staffing. It's a smart business decision, even if it isn't popular right now.

There are other forums, and time has been given to find other alternatives to stay in touch with friends discovered here. Other forums won't be as restrictive for those that enjoy pushing politics and religion, griping or ganging up on people. You'll be able to feast freely on gossip about hosts and how awful you think Q is. I'm not a regular here, I visit occasionally when there aren't reviews on a product I'm interested in, to see what people think. I often get sidetracked and find a shocking number of rude posts about hosts and conspiracy theories. I see negative people feeding on the fears of others, and they encourage each other, building up baseless, dangerous theories. So, I'm obviously not sorry to see the forum go.

So, while I am100% in agreement that many depend on forums to stay connected to people, I don't agree that THIS forum is the end all for that purpose. The first time one posted a comment or reply in this forum it was scary and unfamiliar too. All forums online work in essentially the same way, and you will all be pros at it in no time at all. Please don't substitute opinions on forums for doing your own research on news topics and medical information, no matter where you go.

For those who found the original post offensive, please accept the sincere apology. And if you feel alone or depressed, please contact your family doctor. They can refer you to someone with far more knowledge and experience that can really lift you up with the tools you need to survive these difficult times. No forum is able to do that, even if you believe it does in the short term. I know that when things are hard you may feel like you can't handle one more thing, but you can, given the proper support you need.

I wish all of you the very best. This will be my last post here. Remember that hurt people hurt people, so be kind to others and yourselves. ❤

Re: The sky isn't falling

mom2four0418 — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 17:08:39 GMT

@lulu1 wrote:
If I have offended anyone, I am truly sorry. That was not my intention.

I can certainly empathize with anyone confined to his/her home, feeling alone and/or infirmed.

Trust me, our family knows all too well how the pandemic can change lives forever. I, personally know how being retired and ill can make your world feel small.

If I could I'd delete this thread, but it is too late for that.

You can ask the moderators to close the thread, but I hope that you won't.

Re: The sky isn't falling

BlueFinch — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 17:12:50 GMT

@lulu1 Yes, they gave us a month's warning, but if they wanted to extend goodwill our way, they would have waited until after the NY. They picked a terrible time to ditch the forums.

I can't object to their decision. It's their circus. I just object to the time they chose to wield the hammer.

But, no, it's not the end of the world. Often alternatives threatening our comfort zone prove to be just as good, or better, given the chance. I applaud those who have stepped up to the challenge to keep us going.

Nothing is constant, or permanent anymore, so we might as well get used to it.

Re: The sky isn't falling

occasionalrain — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 17:20:13 GMT

What I find sad is the lack of empathy, the thinly veiled shame, toward those who are distressed by the loss of a forum that was important to them. What's important to me, what I value, may mean nothing to you, just as what you value may mean nothing to me.

Re: The sky isn't falling

tansy — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 17:24:50 GMT

Agreed, @occasionalrain. Some of these posts are very condescending🙁

Re: The sky isn't falling

BlueFinch — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 17:51:50 GMT

@occasionalrain @tansy I agree some comments can sound harsh, not fully understanding how important the forum has been for many. I don't think it's really intended to do so. I think it's more of a push, that we have to get a grip.

I came here grieving the loss of my husband, during times feeling isolated, to find so many who were warm and welcoming. I can never forget that and all the other times I saw people reaching out to others. There are good people here, that far outweigh the trouble makers. I think everyone who often visited here will miss this.

That said, I think it's very important to try to remain positive, while investigating other sites to meet up. I hate to think some may be so disappointed that they won't have the motivation to search alternatives offered and will be left behind.

Many of us are signing up elsewhere. We CAN keep this party going.