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does anyone else think this is both funny and alarming?

GoneButNotForgotten — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 15:56:33 GMT

Evidently the makers of some electriic car makers are warning the owners to park their cars outdoors, rather than in the garage, because of their tendency to BURST INTO FLAME WITH NO WARNING? at least if it's parked at the curb the house won't burn down

Wow, what a "whoops"!

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skatting44 — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:10:00 GMT

I was watching a program abt solar flares . It mentioned something that happened in Canada in 1989 . So, as the old saying : Don't put all your eggs in one basket ".

" On March 13, 1989 the entire province of Quebec, Canada suffered an electrical power blackout. Hundreds of blackouts occur in some part of North America every year. The Quebec Blackout was different, because this one was caused by a solar storm! "

" Geomagnetic storm of 1859, also called Carrington storm, largest geomagnetic storm ever recorded. The storm, which occurred on Sept. 2, 1859, produced intense auroral displays as far south as the tropics. "

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teganslaw — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:14:53 GMT

This is another reason I don't want an electric car. If the govenment is so adamant about everyone getting one, they need to fix all the problems first.

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Kachina624 — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:15:21 GMT

@GoneButNotForgotten Sorry but I don't find this funny at all. Remember a few years ago when battery-operated skate boards were bursting into flames in peoples' homes?

Certain types of batteries are potentially very dangerous.

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Love my grandkids — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:19:14 GMT

@GoneButNotForgotten Oh my gosh!!

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Mz iMac — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:29:50 GMT

Last week the national news reported on electric cars catching on fire. Has something to do w/their batteries.

GM & Tesla have recalls on their electric cars.

Nothing about the fires starting in garages. The news did mention one man's car caught fire while driving!

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Sooner — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:30:16 GMT

Funny? Seriously? Get a laugh out of someone's house burning down?

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Biftu — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:31:19 GMT

Not funny at all!

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Nancy Drew — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:39:40 GMT

California has asked residents not to use their electric cars during the summer run peak times. Ummmm okay. Yeah sure,

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Tinkrbl44 — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:43:04 GMT

@Mz iMac

Last week I was reading instructions for a flashlight & batteries and the warning was pretty surprising ..... it said all caution must be taken so that a little teeny lithium battery wasn't accidentally swallowed because it could cause VERY serious injury and death within 2 hours because it could tear a hole in the esophagus.

Talk about scary ....... who wants this kind of thing in their home?

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GoneButNotForgotten — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:44:14 GMT

@Kachina624 wrote:
@GoneButNotForgotten Sorry but I don't find this funny at all. Remember a few years ago when battery-operated skate boards were bursting into flames in peoples' homes?

Certain types of batteries are potentially very dangerous.

Kachina, no I don't remember but I don't doubt you are right.

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Cakers3 — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 17:08:01 GMT

@Nancy Drew wrote:
California has asked residents not to use their electric cars during the summer run peak times. Ummmm okay. Yeah sure,

@Nancy Drew I have seen reports warning owners about hot weather degrading batteries.

Shouldn't the increase in climate temperatures put a hold on everyone using electric cars??

Just askin'.

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GoneButNotForgotten — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 17:11:28 GMT

@Sooner wrote:
Funny? Seriously? Get a laugh out of someone's house burning down?

No; laughing at those stupid engineers for making such a bad mistake and that NO one in their quality control caught it.

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Venezia — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 17:18:14 GMT

Nothing funny about it - lack of quality control and design.

I just bought a new Subaru - gasoline engine. I had no interest in buying even a hybrid car. I think these all electric or hybrid cars are a long way from being roadworthy.

As for the Tesla, self-driving cars - well, they're only as good as the idiots who should be behind the wheel, but often aren't. They treat driving on the highways like a joke or a game. They should be banned until they solve the problem of having no actual driver behind that wheel. Every time an accident happens they say "The instructions say that..." Yeah, right.

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Porcelain — Sun, 01 Aug 2021 19:27:08 GMT

Not all EV manufacturers or even most or some. One. This thread is trashing GM only.

General Motors Chevy Bolts from 2017-2019 that were previously recalled. The repair they made on the recall wasn't enough and 2 cars had this problem, out of all of them. So they added this additional guidance to their recall.

The original post mistakenly makes it sound like all EVs have some sort of mattress tag manufacturer's warning on them.

The original post is misleading by saying some car makers as opposed to one, and acting as if it applies to all EVs in general, when the issue happened to only 2 cars.

Maybe the OP's original source was misleading and biased and not the poster herself, and she just believed and repeated what she heard second hand. That happens a lot.

"General Motors is telling owners of some older Chevrolet Bolts to park them outdoors and not to charge them overnight because two of the electric cars caught fire after recall repairs were made.

The company said Wednesday that the request covers 2017 through 2019 Bolts that were part of a group that was recalled earlier due to fires in the batteries.

The latest request comes after two Bolts that had gotten recall repairs caught fire, one in Vermont and the other in New Jersey, GM spokesman Kevin Kelly said."

Edited to add:

There seems to be a real emotional attachment to fossil fuel powered engines. People probably felt that way about steam engines as well. Many still love steam powered locomotives and work to restore them. Water power has an emotional pull too. People still lovingly restore old mills and water wheels.

Regardless, everyone was fine when they made the transition away from steam power etc, and eventually to fossil fuels, and we will be fine in the future as well.

People always get upset when things change and they have no control over it. Technology keeps moving forward faster and faster and there are always early adopters as well as those who never adapt. It works out.

The vehicles of the near future may not be electric at all. They may use some other type of power that is yet to be perfected or even discovered. Some person working in a university lab somewhere may wake up tomorrow and discover an even better energy source that will amaze us all.

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millieshops — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 17:47:34 GMT

mostly I find it alarming. I've been feeling sad and alarmed already about the massive weather changes (storms, wildfires, rising oceans, rising temperatures) and now one of man's more recent I nventions that is meant to lower fossil fuel use could burn us up in a flash of fire.

i am not laughing, but I will drive my fossil fuel powered vehicle with less guilt about adding to the problem

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deeva — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 18:07:34 GMT

@GoneButNotForgotten

You'd be surprised at the number of quality issues that are brought to the attention of management and ignored, because it's considered a minor issue.

Think back to the fiasco with Boeing airplanes, or Takata airbags.

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DiAnne — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 18:22:39 GMT

Teslas are THE car in my neightborhood. There are many and none have caught fire.

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Venezia — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 18:22:56 GMT

@deeva wrote:
@GoneButNotForgotten

You'd be surprised at the number of quality issues that are brought to the attention of management and ignored, because it's considered a minor issue.

Think back to the fiasco with Boeing airplanes, or Takata airbags.

@deeva - This really made me laugh. After 25 years in I.T., the number of times those of us who were programmers/analysts tried to do this and got shot down...

The most "infamous" was when a woman who was put in charge of the entire team (with no credible I.T. experience) made the comment out loud: "Oh, we'll just put it into production and catch the flaws there." WTH???

I only wish I was joking. And often, when the you-know-what hit the fan, the fingers were always pointed at the programmers. Many of the "mistakes" were very costly. Fortunately, those of us with any sense, made sure we put warnings in writing!

On the flip side, I worked with a few who didn't think it was their "job" to work out all the defects before progressing something to live. There was a quote: "Never time to do it right. Always time to do it again."

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deeva — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 18:35:00 GMT

So true. I worked in Quality Assurance for a manufacturing company that supplied the automotive industry.

I had many "discussions"with engineers who thought they knew more than everyone.

And every time they wanted to pass a known defect, we got it in writing and took photos of the defect.