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Kentucky Derby Winner Tests + For Steroids

KingstonsMom — Sun, 09 May 2021 14:37:07 GMT

From TMZ:

Kentucky Derby winner Medina Spirit was allegedly juiced up when he won the race, because he apparently tested positive for steroids.

The legendary Bob Baffert, the horse's trainer, broke the news Sunday that the test results showed the presence of corticosteroid Betamethasone. It's kinda technical, but the sample came back positive for 21 picograms of the drug. It's used as an anti-inflammatory.

This means the horse could be disqualified. BTW ... Medina Spirit is the only horse in the race to test positive.

Baffert denies doing anything wrong ... "I don't know what's going on, but there's something that is not right.” It's not official till the split sample comes. Usually, we wait for that, but I wanted to get in front of it."

Facts are facts, and this would be Baffert's 5th medication violation since May, 2020.

The good news for bettors ... they won't have to give their money back. The bad news for Baffert, the trainer and the jockey ... they'll have to return their winnings if their appeal fails.

If Medina Spirit is stripped of the win, it'd be the first DQ since 1968, when Dancer's Image won but was later disqualified for an anti-inflammatory drug.

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Love my grandkids — Sun, 09 May 2021 14:41:31 GMT

For a long time I"ve felt there was something sketchy about Baffert, especially but not only because of his previous violations.

I'm amazed he's still allowed to enter any horses in any races. Always seemed fake to me from what I've seen on TV and in a couple of interviews.

Wonder if the jockey knew.

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ROMARY — Sun, 09 May 2021 14:56:11 GMT

No offense to anyone here, but I can't watch.

I'm always worried about the horses. Falls, etc.

The best of luck and health and safety to all horses.

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Kitty Galore — Sun, 09 May 2021 14:57:26 GMT

@KingstonsMom nor surprised unfortunately this happens way too much in horse racing and its just disgusting. To force a horse that Obviously had inflammation from injury probably in his legs run . That will cause greater injury as the Horse doesn't feel the pain and is running on an injury. sickens me and is why when I realized that this goes on at every race track and including the Derby I stopped going and used to love going to the track in the summer . We akways went to the Saratoga race track every summer and enjoyed it so much, but not anymore , not at the expense of these beautiful , gentle animals. I used to ride when I was younger and horses are amazing creatures! I wish they would close them all down but I know that won't happen , too much$$$ involved all around from owners, trainers and jockeys .. So very sad 😡😞

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KingstonsMom — Sun, 09 May 2021 15:19:43 GMT

@Kitty Galore

I agree with you 1000%.

I feel the same way about greyhound racing and any other 'sport' for the entertainment of humans.

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deepwaterdotter — Sun, 09 May 2021 15:24:56 GMT

@Kitty Galore Thank you for your personal insights. I wish it would be shut down also.

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Nonametoday — Sun, 09 May 2021 15:38:11 GMT

@Kitty Galore wrote:
@KingstonsMom nor surprised unfortunately this happens way too much in horse racing and its just disgusting. To force a horse that Obviously had inflammation from injury probably in his legs run . That will cause greater injury as the Horse doesn't feel the pain and is running on an injury. sickens me and is why when I realized that this goes on at every race track and including the Derby I stopped going and used to love going to the track in the summer . We akways went to the Saratoga race track every summer and enjoyed it so much, but not anymore , not at the expense of these beautiful , gentle animals. I used to ride when I was younger and horses are amazing creatures! I wish they would close them all down but I know that won't happen , too much$$$ involved all around from owners, trainers and jockeys .. So very sad 😡😞

@Kitty Galore

It happens in every sport there is and they start it beginning at an early age. I used to work in an industry where steroid testing was done and even young kids were taking them. It's not just horses and dogs, it's people. This world is on a steroid binge.

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Mz iMac — Sun, 09 May 2021 15:40:57 GMT

@ROMARY A few years ago during the races at the KD a horse broke its leg while running. He was killed right on the track & it was shown live!

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depglass — Sun, 09 May 2021 15:46:51 GMT

I quit watching when that horse was euthanized after breaking its leg. This is the first year I've even tuned in to hear the winner. As usual Bob Baffert was being praised by the commentators. Well, this news has done it for me. No more horse races, period. Ever.

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Sooner — Sun, 09 May 2021 15:47:32 GMT

@ROMARY wrote:
No offense to anyone here, but I can't watch.
I'm always worried about the horses. Falls, etc.

The best of luck and health and safety to all horses.

@ROMARY I feel that way when I watch gymnastics. Especially the really young kids.

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Love my grandkids — Sun, 09 May 2021 16:02:22 GMT

@Sooner I can't watch gymnastics and haven't for a long time. These girls train and diet so rigorously that most of them don't even start to menstruate until late in their teens if not later. That's also the reason some of them have very high pitched, childish voices.

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spiderw — Sun, 09 May 2021 16:50:21 GMT

I am not surprised as horse racing has a history of drug issues and violations yet it continues. I personally would like horse racing to stop but money is the driving force along with powerful people.

I hope Baffert loses his winnings because I believe he does know about the steroids. Greed makes people do terrible things and sadly at the horses's expense in the racing world.

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SeaMaiden — Sun, 09 May 2021 18:43:40 GMT

Both horse racing and dog racing SHOULD BE BANNED PERIOD.

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chickenbutt — Sun, 09 May 2021 18:39:22 GMT

I wish I hadn't seen this (not blaming anybody). I HATE animal cruelty, so I don't participate in any way in animal racing.

But this is abuse on top of abuse and it angers me to a degree that I cannot even express. I doubt they care about the cruelty aspect of it, but I hope there is a price to pay for doing this.

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Tinkrbl44 — Sun, 09 May 2021 19:13:01 GMT

Does anyone know why aren't horses tested for drugs BEFORE the race?

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lovesrecess — Sun, 09 May 2021 20:47:49 GMT

They are tested before and after the race. If Baffert has had 5 horses fail the test since May 2020, why wasn’t he already banned? I despise abusing innocent horses by injecting them with painkillers so they can make them perform injured....all for the sake of money. Wish they would ban horse racing, dog racing, and rodeos. They all torture animals imho.

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Love my grandkids — Sun, 09 May 2021 20:57:39 GMT

I've often wondered who Baffert has in his pocket that lets him get away with this c r a p.

Something's rotten in Denmark with this creep.

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pigletsmom — Sun, 09 May 2021 21:15:58 GMT

Predicted this about 10 seconds after they crossed the wire. This guy just skates on everything. Nothing worse than watching him get praised all the time. So many good trainers and of course you've never heard of them because they don't do this stuff.

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GoneButNotForgotten — Sun, 09 May 2021 21:25:55 GMT

The powers-that-be have to reply on more scientific than "I"ve felt there was something sketchy about Baffert." I'm sure they'll be doing much more intensive analysis than what a "sketchy feeling" would give them; it'l be interesting to learn what the results are.

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GoneButNotForgotten — Sun, 09 May 2021 21:31:05 GMT

The Kentucky Derby itself should be taken off the racing schedule.

From what I've read and learned, 3 years old is too young for young horses to be raced like that. There's also the matter of the discrepancy of age.

A horse born on January 1st can be qualified as 3 years old and so can a horse than was born on December 31st of the same year. Their bodies aren't the same and, as I mentioned before, horses that young aren't fully grown and the stress of racing in something like the Kentucky Derby can be much more strain than a younger horse can tolerate.

But that's just me.