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Amazon Imposes Rules For Contract Drivers!

Spurt — Fri, 07 May 2021 17:41:31 GMT

Amazon Imposes Rules For Contract Drivers!

Amazon reportedly imposed rules on its contracted delivery drivers dictating their social media use while also setting standards for their personal hygiene.

This includes but is "not limited to prevention of unpleasant breath or body odor, modest perfume/cologne, and clean teeth, face/ears, fingernails and hair," according to the company's policies for Delivery Service Partner (DSP), Bloomberg reported. Additionally, drivers are also supposed to abstain from any "obscene" posts on social media, according to the report.

The drivers are employed by independent businesses that have contracts with Amazon to transport packages as part of the DSP program. The program, launched in 2018, is now comprised of over 2,500 locally owned small business operators around the globe that employ tens of thousands of drivers.

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skatting44 — Fri, 07 May 2021 17:34:00 GMT

Amazon, good luck with that .

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Kachina624 — Fri, 07 May 2021 17:35:27 GMT

They must be having some distasteful problems. I'm sure these rules will go over like a lead balloon. Probably kind of insulting for many drivers.

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Spurt — Fri, 07 May 2021 19:03:07 GMT

@Kachina624 wrote:
They must be having some distasteful problems. I'm sure these rules will go over like a lead balloon. Probably kind of insulting for many drivers.

@Kachina624

Yep...has to be a reason..

😉😄

But I feel sorry for the poor drivers in Texas...picture a HOT summer day and here they are making all those deliveries, running in and out of the truck, perhaps some packages are heavy....so by the end of the day...they dont end up smelling like a bed of roses....

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Porcelain — Fri, 07 May 2021 17:40:31 GMT

I just feel bad for them that they don't even have time to take bathroom breaks.

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Spurt — Fri, 07 May 2021 17:44:47 GMT

@Porcelain wrote:
I just feel bad for them that they don't even have time to take bathroom breaks.

@Porcelain

Pretty sad when you think of how much cash Amazon racks in, it seems that they would treat their employees better....That's why Im not an Amazon fan...

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Icegoddess — Fri, 07 May 2021 17:46:42 GMT

If the drivers are employed by an independent contractor, how is Amazon to know what the drivers are posting? Besides, the delivery recipients don't know the drivers to know what they are posting either. I have no idea what my mail delivery lady posts, or the different UPS or FedEX drivers post or even if they do post on social media. And I really don't care as long as they are doing their job.

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Nonametoday — Fri, 07 May 2021 17:50:41 GMT

@Icegoddess wrote:
If the drivers are employed by an independent contractor, how is Amazon to know what the drivers are posting? Besides, the delivery recipients don't know the drivers to know what they are posting either. I have no idea what my mail delivery lady posts, or the different UPS or FedEX drivers post or even if they do post on social media. And I really don't care as long as they are doing their job.

@Icegoddess

Amazon is doing it this way in order to make money on the cheap. These contract drivers will be independent and will charge accordingly. They will bid these contracts as cheap as possible. Have you ever known an independent contractor who did not obey the rules (for the first few months)?

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pdlinda — Fri, 07 May 2021 17:51:16 GMT

I get packages from Amazon delivery people (in addition to UPS) most every day.

I have no idea what the delivery person looks like because all my pkgs are delivered to my door and left there.

I am notified about the delivery and always give a compliment to the driver, whomever he or she may be.

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Spurt — Fri, 07 May 2021 17:59:02 GMT

@Icegoddess wrote:
If the drivers are employed by an independent contractor, how is Amazon to know what the drivers are posting? Besides, the delivery recipients don't know the drivers to know what they are posting either. I have no idea what my mail delivery lady posts, or the different UPS or FedEX drivers post or even if they do post on social media. And I really don't care as long as they are doing their job.

@Icegoddess

I guess Amazon could be concerned about negative comments on social media. They probably require something like the Non-Profit Charity Group I volunteer for---they required a list of all my social media accounts and part of the contract disclosed that they would be periodically reviewing them to make sure I complied with the Organization's Employee/Volunteer Guidelines....now whether they gave the company all their info thats another issue......or they probably just do a seach by name on Facebook etc...

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Icegoddess — Fri, 07 May 2021 18:02:33 GMT

@Spurt wrote:
@Icegoddess wrote:
If the drivers are employed by an independent contractor, how is Amazon to know what the drivers are posting? Besides, the delivery recipients don't know the drivers to know what they are posting either. I have no idea what my mail delivery lady posts, or the different UPS or FedEX drivers post or even if they do post on social media. And I really don't care as long as they are doing their job.
@Icegoddess
I guess Amazon could be concerned about negative comments on social media. They probably require something like the Non-Profit Charity Group I volunteer for---they required a list of all my social media accounts and part of the contract disclosed that they would be periodically reviewing them to make sure I complied with the Organization's Employee/Volunteer Guidelines....now whether they gave the company all their info thats another issue......or they probably just do a seach by name on Facebook etc...

@Spurt I'm only on Facebook, but somebody I work for would not have access to my account to see my posts unless I allowed them to, which I wouldn't. I suppose if they did a search on my name they might be able to see my comments to other people's posts assuming they don't have their account locked down the way I do or comments to public posts.

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Foxxee — Fri, 07 May 2021 18:12:57 GMT

Troubling to me is these drivers need to be told.

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Spurt — Fri, 07 May 2021 18:29:13 GMT

@Icegoddess wrote:
@Spurt wrote:
@Icegoddess wrote:
If the drivers are employed by an independent contractor, how is Amazon to know what the drivers are posting? Besides, the delivery recipients don't know the drivers to know what they are posting either. I have no idea what my mail delivery lady posts, or the different UPS or FedEX drivers post or even if they do post on social media. And I really don't care as long as they are doing their job.
@Icegoddess
I guess Amazon could be concerned about negative comments on social media. They probably require something like the Non-Profit Charity Group I volunteer for---they required a list of all my social media accounts and part of the contract disclosed that they would be periodically reviewing them to make sure I complied with the Organization's Employee/Volunteer Guidelines....now whether they gave the company all their info thats another issue......or they probably just do a seach by name on Facebook etc...
@Spurt I'm only on Facebook, but somebody I work for would not have access to my account to see my posts unless I allowed them to, which I wouldn't. I suppose if they did a search on my name they might be able to see my comments to other people's posts assuming they don't have their account locked down the way I do or comments to public posts.

@Icegoddess

Your right, it would depend on the Facebook settings to view someone's page without even signing in, I just googled a name with facebook and was able to view a page without signing in, the problem is some people are naive about whether an employer would bother checking social media . ....

The reason I bring this up...we had an incident in the company I work for where someone wrote a negative comment about a certain Manager, and the employee ended up getting fired...And from what Ive read in business journals more and more companies are checking employee social media accounts these days....probably those that arent performing up to speed....(I think thats what happended to the employee in our office that was fired).............

This is from a legal blog---

It is completely legal for employers to check employees' social media . Some states even allow employers to solicit social media usernames and passwords from their workers. In general, state and federal privacy laws dictate what employers can and cannot ask for.

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Grand Happy — Fri, 07 May 2021 18:13:37 GMT

I grab our packages right after the delivery is left on my porch, I can see them walk up. OMG one time my porch smelled like she dropped a bottle of perfume, instantly gave me a headache.
The package smelled also!!!

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faeriemoon — Fri, 07 May 2021 18:37:34 GMT

You would think that anyone who has a job that may require encountering other people would not have to be told these rules.

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CelticCrafter — Fri, 07 May 2021 19:29:33 GMT

FTLOG, they're dropping a package at the front door, taking a picture of the delivery and leaving.

How many people waiting for a delivery actually have an encounter with the drivers?

Not like we are inviting them in for a cup of tea and cookies.

99% of the time I don't even know they've been here until I get the email with the picture of the package at the front door.

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gertrudecloset — Fri, 07 May 2021 20:22:24 GMT

This sounds more like what I have been hearing since the advent of everybody and their loved ones on social media. Many employers were asking potential employees for their social media information. Aside from running your credit, checking your background your social media account came into play. I am of the firm belief that my social media is my business and not a company I work for. However, private companies can do these kinds of things because employees are REPRESENTATIVES of said companies.

If Amazon sets minimum standards for neatness and grooming and workers disagree, they are free to leave. This is how private enterprise works. UPS Drivers wear uniforms, so do Fedex and USPS workers. I see nothing wrong with at least imposing neatness. If this doesn't work then they may be forced to pay for uniforms. It's in the driver's best interest (if he/she wants the job) to abide by the rules.

Employers have fired people from their jobs for things that have come to light in the media (that they created problems for themselves). Employers don't want bad publicity.

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SilleeMee — Fri, 07 May 2021 21:02:59 GMT

I've gotten packages that reeked of cigarettes...ugh.

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Icegoddess — Fri, 07 May 2021 21:53:29 GMT

@Spurt if an employer asked me for my username and password, I would immediately delete my account. It's not that I post anything objectionable, it's just the principle. It's called a password for a reason, and that reason is not to give it away. Guess it's a good thing I'm retired.

BTW, you should be able to find most anybody's Facebook account. Plus, anything they share that is Public content would also show up even though you wouldn't be able to see stuff that they post if they have their privacy settings to Just Friends.

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Buffalogal47 — Fri, 07 May 2021 22:13:27 GMT

@Kachina624 Of course the drivers who are the most offended will be the ones who are the reason Amazon had to make these rules.