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😳😮😲 J&J Vaccine Boo-Boo! 😦😧😷

Mz iMac — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 22:34:22 GMT

Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 vaccine doses are delayed by a U.S. factory mix-up.

"Workers at a Baltimore plant manufacturing two coronavirus vaccines accidentally conflated the vaccines’ ingredients several weeks ago, ruining about 15 million doses of Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine and forcing regulators to delay authorization of the plant’s production lines.

The plant is run by Emergent BioSolutions, a manufacturing partner to both Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca. Federal officials attributed the mistake to human error.

The mixup has halted future shipments of Johnson & Johnson doses in the United States while the Food and Drug Administration investigates."

Full Article Source: NYTimes DOT com

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stevieb — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 22:48:38 GMT

Utterly unforgivable. You would think at this time, manufacturers would have done everything under the sun to eliminate 'human error' as related to the distribution of these items, including but not limited to not having two different vaccines manufactured out of the same plant. The FDA needs to 'investigate' quickly and get this rolling again. Given there are large segments of the public leery of this vaccination process anyway, this goes beyond being merely unfortunate. One wonders, can we manage to get anything right at this point?

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fthunt — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 22:50:54 GMT

That's why I'm still sitting on a fence post................Expect I'll be here for a while.

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Shelbelle — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 22:54:11 GMT

@fthunt wrote:
That's why I'm still sitting on a fence post................Expect I'll be here for a while.

I understand totally, but my DH and I have relented and are going on Fri for our first shot, we are older and I just dont feel comfortable working in my office now without being vaccinated. All of our friends and family are.

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haddon9 — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:00:26 GMT

@fthunt wrote:
That's why I'm still sitting on a fence post................Expect I'll be here for a while.

Me too! I'm never in a hurry for a new product..particularly something that's to be injected into my arm.

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Marp — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:04:41 GMT

The news reports I've heard on this stressed that the involved manufacturing plant has NOT been certified by the FDA for manufacturing the vaccine and NONE of the J&J vaccine used in the U.S. has been manufactured there.

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Porcelain — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:07:29 GMT

I am glad they caught the problem. And I'm glad the batch didn't make it out of the factory. At least this proves they have multiple quality check points that can catch problems.

I'm all the more glad I'm scheduled to get Pfizer. How disappointing and angering for everyone who was going to get the J&J.

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fthunt — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:07:36 GMT

@ShelbelleIt's okay to get vaccinated - I have nothing against it. It's smart actually. You say you are older and working in the business world - - -my corporate world is in my rear view mirror - so I'm not mixing in groups of people. = but me not young no more!

I probably will get the shot - eventually

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Porcelain — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:08:31 GMT

@Marp wrote:
The news reports I've heard on this stressed that the involved manufacturing plant has NOT been certified by the FDA for manufacturing the vaccine and NONE of the J&J vaccine used in the U.S. has been manufactured there.

Then how would this cause a delay?

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amyb — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:09:04 GMT

I got the Moderna. Going for my 2nd shot 4/5. My local CVS giving them...but so were many other sites in my area, that just happened to be where they took me first.

If they had said it would be the J&J I was going to rebook with someone giving either Moderna or Pfizer. That was because when I Googled all of them for their effecacy, both Moderna and Pfizer were in the 90-something % effecacy. About 97-98% as I recall.

J&J was 40-something. At least when I researched it. I could be wrong but that's what I read.

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Shelbelle — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:14:47 GMT

J and J is supposedly over 70% effective in transmission and 100% effective in preventing hospitalizations and fatalities. it was our first choice, but assume it is no longer an option for this week. Dr Fauci was highly in favor of it. I doubt it would have been approved if only 40% effective.

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minimalistWF — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:15:19 GMT

@amyb

The J&J vaccine's efficacy is about 70%, with pfizer and modera around 90-95%.

The flu vaccine is just under 40% so maybe you got your info confused, but J&J is significantly more efficacious than that.

Any of the three vaccines are good options, even if J&J is a bit lower in full efficacy, it still prevented serious complications.

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Nuttmeg — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 00:19:30 GMT

My local CVS is giving out Pfizer. A person needs to have insurance to get the vaccine at a drugstore.

Pop-ups in my area, also require insurance.

Next week, anyone 16+ can get a shot. There will probably be more J&J vaccine dispensed.

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January121 — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 00:34:51 GMT

@fthunt wrote:
That's why I'm still sitting on a fence post................Expect I'll be here for a while.

@fthunt ... Hi .... I’m sitting right next to you on the same fence 😊

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Mz iMac — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 00:35:09 GMT

@Nuttmeg These vaccines are FREE. Does not matter if you have ins or not. So are you saying CVS will turn away uninsured folks?

This is what I do not understand. If vaccines are FREE, why do certain places need ins info?

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January121 — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 00:40:21 GMT

@haddon9 wrote:
@fthunt wrote:
That's why I'm still sitting on a fence post................Expect I'll be here for a while.
Me too! I'm never in a hurry for a new product..particularly something that's to be injected into my arm.

@haddon9 ... yes, especially since once the “juice” is injected there is no way of getting it out of the body & we have to deal with the outcome regardless if it’s good or bad ... I truly don’t believe the politicians & doctors telling us that it is perfectly safe!!!

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KKJ — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 00:44:48 GMT

@January121 I'm another not getting the vaccine. And I agree with you totally.

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January121 — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 00:47:42 GMT

@KKJ wrote:
@January121 I'm another not getting the vaccine. And I agree with you totally.

@KKJ .... I personally think we are making the right decision ... good luck to you 😊☺️

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Wsmom — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 00:51:48 GMT

@Mz iMac wrote:
@Nuttmeg These vaccines are FREE. Does not matter if you have ins or not. So are you saying CVS will turn away uninsured folks?

This is what I do not understand. If vaccines are FREE, why do certain places need ins info?

I think that everyplace asks for your insurance info *if* you have it so they can bill your insurance. So though CVS asks for insurance info, if you don't have insurance you can still get the vax. That is my understanding anyway.

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minimalistWF — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 00:57:03 GMT

@January121 @KKJ

The vaccines are safe and effective. Totally your choice to choose what is best for you, but this hasn't been pushed out by politicians. Real medical science built these vaccines and they work!!!

I had my first Pfizer last week and had no side effects whatsoever. It was truly a relief to get my first shot and start to feel safer, especially when so many continue to have tantrums over wearing masks.