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KETO ANYONE?

catlover — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 00:54:58 GMT

I see it a lot on facebook. People lose so much weight. Any thoughts?

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clarika — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 01:02:34 GMT

Over on the Wellness boards there is a long thread called KETO SHARING. Lots of thoughts

Also, not everyone loses weight fast, how old. how healthy/not healthy , how well you adapt will vary by person.

Ketogenic diet is not meant to be a diet more a way of life to improve your metabolism, protect your hormones, and lower inflammation.

Actually the best resource I can recommend is a web site called diet doctor dot com - lots of free resources.

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ThinkingOutLoud — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 01:02:58 GMT

Some time ago, I saw Jillian Michaels (trainer from 'Biggest Loser' show) say that it's really not a healthy way to release weight.

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Carmie — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 01:08:45 GMT

For me it was an easy diet to follow. I lost weight really fast...almost 100 lbs.

Caused me to lose my gall bladder, caused an irregular heartbeat and low potassium. I was passing out and my breath was terrrible.

I got really sick on it and my doctors forced me to give it up...I fought tooth and nail and denied the diet was the cause of all my medical problems. Finally,I went off of it and there is no lasting effects, except my gall bladder being gone.

It would probably be okay if you only have a few pounds to lose, but it can be dangerous to be on it a long time. It can cause kidney problems, which I never had.

I forgot to mention, my Keto diet was medically supervised. I wasn't winging it. I got weekly blood and urine tests while on it.

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tansy — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 01:09:31 GMT

Keto means different things to people. I eat as low carb as possible for my blood sugar and do not worry about eating good fats. A positive aspect of keto is that it tends to kill hunger and tame cravings. I have lost weight but slowly.

@JeanLouiseFinch is a keto master.

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Barbara-QVC — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 01:10:31 GMT

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ThinkingOutLoud — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 01:18:07 GMT

@Carmie wrote:
For me it was an easy diet to follow. I lost weight really fast...almost 100 lbs.

Caused me to lose my gall bladder, caused an irregular heartbeat and low potassium. I was passing out and my breath was terrrible.

I got really sick on it and my doctors forced me to give it up...I fought tooth and nail and denied the diet was the cause of all my medical problems. Finally,I went off of it and there is no lasting effects, except my gall bladder being gone.

It would probably be okay if you only have a few pounds to lose, but it can be dangerous to be on it a long time. It can cause kidney problems, which I never had.

I forgot to mention, my Keto diet was medically supervised. I wasn't winging it. I got weekly blood and urine tests while on it.

Wow! So glad you got off the Keto train. Thanks for sharing your experience. Cautionary tale for sure.

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Goldengate8361 — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 01:21:59 GMT

@tansy is right. I eat very low carb (consistently) and I have easily kept off 90 lbs that I lost 8 years ago. All of my medical markers or metrics improved and have remained excellent since going super low carb. I highly recommend going low carb. You can call it keto or Atkins or whatever you like.

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agb80 — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 01:24:24 GMT

My extent of doing the keto diet was putting the mtc oil in my coffee. I don't eat bread or hamburger buns or cakes, cookies or chips but it's hard to eat primarily protein. I eat a lot of cereal. I like the new Grain Berry that was developed at A & M University and I like to eat oatmeal and I eat a lot of vegetables. So, if I'm not mistaken that is not how the keto diet is supposed to work.

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JeanLouiseFinch — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 02:07:39 GMT

@catlover wrote:
I see it a lot on facebook. People lose so much weight. Any thoughts?

Be careful of who you follow on Facebook. Some of those groups are pushing exogenous ketones and other products you don’t need. There are a lot of “Speed keto” groups too. Not all groups are bad, you just have to be discerning. True keto, by definition, is a high healthy fat, moderate protein, very low carb way of eating (75%:20%:5%). Tracking macros is super important, so is taking a good electrolyte supplement. People will use the terms “dirty keto” or “lazy keto” but they are more of a low carb way of eating and not true keto at all. With keto, you have to be all in or all out, IMO. You need to be educated on ingredients and be a diligent label reader. Don’t believe marketing labels. Our bodies can only operate on one fuel source at a time so you have to pick a lane - either sugar/glucose or fat/ketones. Combining both is a recipe for disaster. Done correctly, the keto WOE is more than a temporary weight loss tool. It’s a lifestyle that is healthy for your gut & brain. It reduces inflammation, can reverse diabetes in some people. Don’t get me wrong, the weight loss is rewarding but so are all the benefits. I’ve been following the keto WOE since June 2019. I’ve lost 126 lbs. and feel better than I have most of my adult life. Most doctors and NP’s don’t really know a lot about keto. They know what they’ve been taught in medical school about the food pyramid.

It can sound overwhelming at first, but it soon settles into a routine. My husband follows it with me. We eat delicious foods, including desserts and treats, and aren’t missing out on anything.

See if you can find the documentary The Magic Pill on Netflix or YouTube. It had a big impact on me.

if you have any questions, tag me. I’m happy to help you. 😊

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JeanLouiseFinch — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 01:45:35 GMT

@tansy Thank you! 😊

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Icegoddess — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 01:57:31 GMT

Too extreme for me. I did a moderate low carb diet for awhile. Strictly 150 TOTAL carbs/day. Lost about 20 lbs. But, I didn't totally eliminate anything from my diet. I just worked things around so that I could occasionally have a favorite. The one thing I learned though is that low carbers are continually looking for a suitable replacement for their favorite high carb foods. That's where a lot of the NET carb counts come in, trying to find foods with fake sugars and other ingredients that they can subtract from the total carb count. I also learned that none of those substitutes everybody raves about taste like the real thing. That's not for me. So, I found what works for me. I don't lose weight, but also don't gain any outside of the 5lb range I fluctuate in. I don't deny myself anything. And the doctor says my labs are great.

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Puppy Lips — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 02:36:49 GMT

Fall 2019 to January 2020 I lost 20 lbs. doing Keto. It is a hard diet to stay on long term. I gained some of it back last year and am trying to Keto again. I need to find a bigger variety of things to eat. I can’t eat meat and cheese and peanuts all day. That is what my DH lives on.

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GinzTonic — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 03:05:40 GMT

I have been Keto for 2 years . I lost a lot of weight at 54 years old . I had a Terrible menopause'. Keto helped me get hormones under control. So many benefits other than weight loss. For me not being hungry was the game changer . It's amazing what fat does for your diet . I am strick keto ,eat clean . It's cheaper and easier than you think.

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tansy — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 04:28:32 GMT

@catlover, you might check out Dr Eric Westman from Duke University. Look for his page 4 video on you tube.

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MoonieBaby — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 05:38:54 GMT

Fatty diets are hard on your organs

liver. Heart. Also your arteries.
Excessive proteins are not the best for the kidneys.

Mediterranean diets and daily excercise is a healthy way to live/diet.
but keto is a fad. Not fantastic for long term.

you may wish to research it on Mayo Clinic or with a qualified dietician.

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hckynut — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 17:34:54 GMT

@catlover wrote:
I see it a lot on facebook. People lose so much weight. Any thoughts?

@catlover

Of course I have thoughts, lots of them. I have seen this word in several places, even on products in my home(that are not mine). I have no idea exactly what it means, and no desire to look into it.

What I am getting from what I do hear and read, it is yet another way to lose weight(fat? Beats me) is it easily, or is it fast? Each new version of weight loss always touts 1 or the other, some even both.

My thoughts for anyone that wants to lose fat from their body, assuming they are healthy per their doctor, and have no specific underlying conditions effecting fat loss? The tried and true method that works every time, for most, excluding those with any conditions mentioned above!

Eat less/Move more.

Lots of other thoughts, but I haven't authored my book yet

hckynut

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hckynut — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 07:47:38 GMT

@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:
Some time ago, I saw Jillian Michaels (trainer from 'Biggest Loser' show) say that it's really not a healthy way to

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"release weight."

@ThinkingOutLoud

Never heard it put that way, not even on biggest loser show. How about what most people really want, "drop fat weight"?

hckynut

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JeanLouiseFinch — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 08:07:15 GMT

@MoonieBaby wrote:
Fatty diets are hard on your organs
liver. Heart. Also your arteries.
Excessive proteins are not the best for the kidneys.

Mediterranean diets and daily excercise is a healthy way to live/diet.
but keto is a fad. Not fantastic for long term.

you may wish to research it on Mayo Clinic or with a qualified dietician.

@MoonieBaby Did you know when we are born, we’re born in the state of ketosis (using fat for fuel)? These claims you have stated have been shown to be untrue. Healthy fats do not negativity affect the heart. Keto does not recommend excessive protein either so it’s doubtful you understand the diet. There are knowledgeable cardiologists who actually recommend it. High glycemic sugars are much worse and damaging for us. Furthermore, the ketogenic diet is far from a fad. It was discovered nearly100 years ago and originated as a treatment for children with epilepsy.

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GinzTonic — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 10:56:40 GMT

@JeanLouiseFinch wrote:
@MoonieBaby wrote:
Fatty diets are hard on your organs
liver. Heart. Also your arteries.
Excessive proteins are not the best for the kidneys.

Mediterranean diets and daily excercise is a healthy way to live/diet.
but keto is a fad. Not fantastic for long term.

you may wish to research it on Mayo Clinic or with a qualified dietician.
@MoonieBaby Did you know when we are born, we’re born in the state of ketosis (using fat for fuel)? These claims you have stated have been shown to be untrue. Healthy fats do not negativity affect the heart. Keto does not recommend excessive protein either so it’s doubtful you understand the diet. There are knowledgeable cardiologists who actually recommend it. High glycemic sugars are much worse and damaging for us. Furthermore, the ketogenic diet is far from a fad. It was discovered nearly100 years ago and originated as a treatment for children with epilepsy.

Completely agree , so many mis conceptions out there about this diet. Which ever way of eating you choose to loose weight , a calorie deficit is a must .