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New Mask Thread....warning if mask threads upset you😷

SeaMaiden — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:55:33 GMT

COVID-19 could be controlled in 1-2 months if people wear masks: CDC Director Robert Redfield.

More than 3.4 million people in the country have been diagnosed with the coronavirus and over 136,000 people have died.

To Redfield, a major key to controlling the pandemic is wearing masks.

"I really do believe if the American public all embraced masking now and we really did it, you know, rigorously ... I think if we can get everybody to wear a mask right now, I really do think over the next four to six, eight weeks, we can bring this epidemic under control," Redfield said.

"I do think the fall and the winter of 2020 and 2021 are going to be probably one of the most difficult times ... in American public health because of ... the co-occurrence of COVID and influenza," he told JAMA.

Redfield stressed the importance of getting the flu vaccine, "because I think those two respiratory pathogens hitting this at the same time do have the potential to stress our health system."

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Porcelain — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:43:40 GMT

Everybody get your flu shot this year if you can.

In positive Mask news, Walmart just decided to Mandate and Require mask wearing in all their stores in all states! Bout time. But an excellent development in controlling this disease.

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Laura14 — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:00:46 GMT

I probably shouldn't encourage but, for those who care, I have started wearing a mask when I am out and about on personal time which isn't often after work but when I am, I do now.

Blame it on the posts here and the fact that I see more and more people wearing them around town.

Glad to see the major retailers are going to get in line too. I guess when you make it part of the uniform for everyone, it's easier to comply for some reason.

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Deree — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:06:44 GMT

Guess what? The pandemic could have been almost over or at least very well controlled in this country by *now* had EVERYONE stopped denying the science and wore masks. *That* is the crime and pity here. Incomprehensible.

And as long as people continue to refuse to follow the public health guidelines we will be in a neverending opening and closing with thousands more deaths.

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spiderw — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:15:11 GMT

Common sense, wearing a mask helps protect the spread of a serious disease, it should be mandated that everyone wear a mask for the well being of themselves and others. If you want your freedoms back, wear a mask, a simple sacrifice.

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Love my grandkids — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:43:04 GMT

I even mask up when I go across the street to my locked mail box. One of the neighbors who was working in his yard, masked, looked at me kind of funny!

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Sheila P-Burg — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:22:59 GMT

@Deree ..... No the crime and pity is that the virus was not taken as a concern earlier. What is "incomprehensible" is the " role" models that do not follow the recommendations.

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germanshepherdlove — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:30:00 GMT

@Sheila P-Burg wrote:

@Deree ..... No the crime and pity is that the virus was not taken as a concern earlier. What is "incomprehensible" is the " role" models that do not follow the recommendations.

You're right because initially we were told by the medical professionals not by ANY politician to not wear a mask. Remember ? There was a shortage. smh

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Laura14 — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:32:11 GMT

Totally agree @germanshepherdlove

I think it mattered that when it all first started, the media and several well known physicians went on a campaign against mask wearing.

Three months later I've yet to hear one of them say oops, we're sorry. Put it on. We were wrong like that is some kind of crime to admit to.

When you do an about face and don't even acknowledge the other side of your mouth, the sliver of credibility the media may still have about certain things is beyond gone and people just stop listening; including me for a time.

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Deree — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:41:34 GMT

@Sheila P-Burg wrote:

@Deree ..... No the crime and pity is that the virus was not taken as a concern earlier. What is "incomprehensible" is the " role" models that do not follow the recommendations.

@Sheila P-Burg Agree about the important role models who do not follow the recommendations. Regardless people should have more Common Sense to understand that when a lethal respiratory illness is spread by respiratory droplets, to cover your nose and mouth with a mask. For those complaining that "we were told" not to wear masks at the beginning.... Well it doesn't take a rocket scientist. Yes I'm angry.

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Love my grandkids — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:41:50 GMT

I'm 72 and have been getting my flu shot for more years than I can remember.

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furbabylover — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:43:55 GMT

You've got that right. Because this virus has been determined to be a GOF (Gain of Function) lab product, there probably is no way to predict the trajectory of it. The scientists are without definitive answers for us, and the media has just lost all credibility with their headlines constantly streaming panic and horror. Let common sense prevail here. Wear a mask to protect yourself and everyone else.

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pitdakota — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:54:20 GMT

@germanshepherdlove wrote:
@Sheila P-Burg wrote:

@Deree ..... No the crime and pity is that the virus was not taken as a concern earlier. What is "incomprehensible" is the " role" models that do not follow the recommendations.
You're right because initially we were told by the medical professionals not by ANY politician to not wear a mask. Remember ? There was a shortage. smh

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@germanshepherdlove Absolutely! And at the time with the information the medical profession had....that is the information they should have given. Especially with the critical shortage of masks that we had for health care workers and first responders needed them far worse than someone that was supposed to be staying home.

Then places actually started to research that the respiratory droplets actually were emitted just from talking and laughing. No one really expected that. We always knew that they were emitted if you coughed or sneezed, but this was really surprising information that the particles were actually emitted at a pretty good clip with just talking.

I will also add that at that time that statement was made, we also had no idea of how much asymptomatic transmission was a factor for this virus.

With other influenza like illnesses, people get sick and are likely to stay home. Therefore if they are coughing or sneezing they are not out and about as readily.

It was big news when they started testing all women coming into the labor room as to how many of them tested positive and had no clue they had the virus. So we started to learn quite a bit about asymptomatic transmission with this virus.

Whole nother ball of wax when you find out that the virus can be emitted with just talking and that asymptomatic transmission is a very serious problem. This virus is really quite unique in its ability to do that. Especially with people being the more infectious days before they start to have symptoms.

Nor did we know the vast arrary of clinical presentation at that time. We now know some present with stomach issues. No one thought at the time those symptoms would correlate with covid-19.

Isn't research a wonderful thing? Who knew. You didn't know. I didn't know and I have been in nursing more than 40 years.

I remember posting on here in the days right after that research came out. I posted the video showing particle emission with talking without a mask and particle emission with a mask.

Yes, research is a wonderful thing. We used not to give people in the coronary care unit ice water or cold drinks either because cardiologists thought cold fluids would place a stress on the heart. Then someone did a study and found out it had no effect. Multiple studies took place validating the results and cold drinking fluids were then allowed all over the country.

So using that as a reason to blame is just using an excuse that overlooks what we knew when and how we learned about this virus & how new research added to our body of knowledge of what we needed to do in order to deal with this virus.

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bikerbabe — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:57:24 GMT

Nurses and doctors - we’ve been pleading, begging people to wear masks for months. At this point in the game, I have a hard time believing people haven’t just been willfully ignoring our pleas. 😢

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Deree — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:03:07 GMT

@pitdakota Granted we learned so much more about this novel virus as time went on. BUT all people needed to do was look at what was happening in the first few states where the virus spread like wildfire. Washington state and especially New York. I think based on that quick spread everyone else in the country should have opened their eyes but I believe the attitude was "It doesn't affect me over here."

I wear a mask every flu season if I have to use public transportation in my dense city and if I have to walk into a hospital or doctor's office. Common sense. I do not go to crowded places otherwise during flu season.

After 9/11 the air was incredibly acrid for months afterwards. It smelled like burning flesh and metal. Was I going to breathe in that air despite the then EPA head telling NYers that "the air is safe." ? I wore a mask for months. Common sense. We all know the result of people listening to her.

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Marp — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:12:52 GMT

@Laura14 wrote:
Totally agree @germanshepherdlove

I think it mattered that when it all first started, the media and several well known physicians went on a campaign against mask wearing.

Three months later I've yet to hear one of them say oops, we're sorry. Put it on. We were wrong like that is some kind of crime to admit to.

When you do an about face and don't even acknowledge the other side of your mouth, the sliver of credibility the media may still have about certain things is beyond gone and people just stop listening; including me for a time.

Jun 12, 2020

Dr. Fauci joined TheStreet to talk about why masks are important when you leave the house and to better explain why there was back and forth in the beginning.

"Masks are not 100% protective. However, they certainly are better than not wearing a mask. Both to prevent you, if you happen to be a person who may feel well, but has an asymptomatic infection that you don't even know about, to prevent you from infecting someone else," said Fauci. "But also, it can protect you a certain degree, not a hundred percent, in protecting you from getting infected from someone who, either is breathing, or coughing, or sneezing, or singing or whatever it is in which the droplets or the aerosols go out. So masks work."

So, why weren't we told to wear masks in the beginning?

"Well, the reason for that is that we were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply. And we wanted to make sure that the people namely, the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected."

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MildredM — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:07:25 GMT

I don't know how it would be possible to get everyone at a large family gathereing to agree much less the entire country.

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Love my grandkids — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:10:50 GMT

@Deree I'm in WA state and we don't even come CLOSE to the numbers from Arizona, Texas and Florida! The mayors/governors of those states have been morons in some ways.

Our governor mandated mask wearing earlier this month and most of us are happy that he finally did!

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suzyQ3 — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:11:07 GMT

I agree with @pitdakota that we have learned so much over the last six months both about transmission and the efficacy of non-medical masts.

The situation is fluid when it come to his novel virus. The most important thing we as lay people can do is to acummulate our information from the most learned and credible experts. There will always differences in nuance and what is stressed, but overall, the message will be the same.

Tune out the noise or it could kill us.

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stellabystarlight — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:12:07 GMT

All I can say is thank God for Governor Andrew Cuomo. I live in New York, and he got an almost impossible situation under control by mandating masks and closing the state. Yes, it was a nightmare, but I am alive and well, and our numbers continue to go down. Why other states did not follow our example, I have no answer. Just maybe pride and stupidity.