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Mandatory Masks in NC

Marp — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 01:28:46 GMT

Gov. Roy Cooper announced Wednesday that face masks will be required for anyone in a public space whether inside or outdoors. He also said masks will be required for all employees and customers of retail businesses and restaurants. The order goes into effect Friday at 5 p.m. and expires July 17 at 5 p.m.

Exceptions to the mandate

Cooper gave expectations to the face mask rule, which include:

children 10 years old and younger
people who are actively eating or drinking
people doing strenuous exercise
communication with hearing impaired in which mouth visibility is required
giving a speech or broadcast to an audience
working at home
driving/riding in personal vehicle
if mask impedes visibility to operate equipment or vehicle

Under the mandate, Copper's office said certain businesses must have employees and customers wear face coverings, including but not limited to: retail businesses, restaurants, personal care and grooming.

Who can enforce the mandate?

local law enforcement have the power to criminally enforce the order (GPD gave us some details on that in the email Cami sent earlier today)

if someone (worker or customer) enters a business (or any place) and refuses to wear a mask, law enforcement can enforce trespassing laws

Cooper also announced North Carolina will remain in the Safer at Home Phase 2 for three more weeks.

Excerpt from: wfmynews2.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/face-coverings-required-in-public-north-carolina-stays-in-phase-2/83-52960a3b-4cbe-48ee-8b72-62293b70dea2

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sunshine 919 — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 01:38:02 GMT

I live in NV, our Gov just did the same thing.

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happycat — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 02:17:06 GMT

I wish my governor would do this. Our numbers are increasing at an alarming rate.

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wildcat fan — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 02:22:39 GMT

I especially like that restaurants and other businesses will require employees to wear masks.

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tucsongal — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 02:31:05 GMT

Our governor will not mandate masks but finally conceded that local jurisdictions can make their own rules after pressure from physicians, mayors, citizens. The two counties containing Phoenix and Tucson quickly passed mandatory mask guidelines, although I don’t believe enforcement is particularly strong.

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SuhseK — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 02:31:39 GMT

Washington State, also.

Not uniformly popular, by any means.

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spiderw — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 03:13:38 GMT

Good common sense as virus numbers rise.

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Helen852 — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 03:25:44 GMT

NYS has had the mask protocol for a while now. I believe it's if you're unable to maintain a safe social distance wear a mask. It's not my favorite thing to do, but have been doing it. If it gets to be too much I simply finish up by business andleave the store and take it off.

In stores I'd say 99.9% of the patrons/customers do adhere. The governor did say that a business can refuse someone into their store if not wearing a mask.

My area is currently into phase 3 of reopening. Phase 4 is another story, they keep making new phases in phase 4 ... for example, no malls can open or movie theatres or gyms. They were originally in the phase 4 reopening, but just yesterday they said oh ... there's phases in the phase 4 reopening.

In the meantime, we wear our masks and practice social distancing.

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sunshine45 — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 04:14:56 GMT

my states......maryland and delaware......are still in phase two.

we have to wear masks when we go into retail establishments, restaurant servers and staff must wear masks, masks are required on public transportation, masks are required in delaware on the boardwalk, restaurants and bars are not at full capacity.....some public areas are still off limits. we are definitely not rushing through this as some states have and they now have to move backwards.

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shoekitty — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 04:22:31 GMT

We have mandatory masks here in California. I honor the regulation for myself, my family and people I don't know. Sort of makes me angry about people in other states making such a fuss, going to city hall meetings and demanding that it not be mandatory. That it is their right. Making people sick is not a right. I want to get on with my life. My granddaughter has a wedding most likely will be made to cancel or postpone... people have no right to decide they won't wear masks, imo. They have no right when it concerns the health of others. Who do they think they are.. jeopardizing the health and safety of others for their own pleasure and stubbornness. Wear the darn mask, social distance, wash your darn hands... and stay home if you don't like it. Stay home if you feel masks are uncomfortable. . Sometimes I think people do it to show where they aligned in political matters, or just to be contrary . Well, when it comes to the heath of others it is no political matter. One lady said, she doesn't wear a mask, it is her right. Then she said she never gets sick and takes care because she doesn't have insurance. Omg, so if she gets sick, goes to hospital , the state is going to pay for it.?

gotta rant today, thank you

I heard a good one today

IF YOU DON'T LIKE WEARING A MASK, YOU SURE AS HECK WON'T LIKE WEARING A VENTALATOR!

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picco — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 11:16:27 GMT

Saw this online the other day - "You know what's really uncomfortable? Pants. But I still wear them in public. Not for me, but for others. Wear the mask."

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CrazyDaisy — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 11:41:30 GMT

Good luck enforcing

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sunsetbeach — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 12:39:51 GMT

I'm so glad he finally did this and he kept us in Phase 2. Our numbers are going in the wrong direction ever since we moved into Phase 2 a month ago. I live right in the middle of 2 hot spots and can't tell you how many people don't wear a mask. Things are getting so much worse and I just wish everyone would help fight this thing by wearing a mask.

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Financialgrl — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 13:21:55 GMT

@shoekitty wrote:
We have mandatory masks here in California. I honor the regulation for myself, my family and people I don't know. Sort of makes me angry about people in other states making such a fuss, going to city hall meetings and demanding that it not be mandatory. That it is their right. Making people sick is not a right. I want to get on with my life. My granddaughter has a wedding most likely will be made to cancel or postpone... people have no right to decide they won't wear masks, imo. They have no right when it concerns the health of others. Who do they think they are.. jeopardizing the health and safety of others for their own pleasure and stubbornness. Wear the darn mask, social distance, wash your darn hands... and stay home if you don't like it. Stay home if you feel masks are uncomfortable. . Sometimes I think people do it to show where they aligned in political matters, or just to be contrary . Well, when it comes to the heath of others it is no political matter. One lady said, she doesn't wear a mask, it is her right. Then she said she never gets sick and takes care because she doesn't have insurance. Omg, so if she gets sick, goes to hospital , the state is going to pay for it.?
gotta rant today, thank you

I heard a good one today

IF YOU DON'T LIKE WEARING A MASK, YOU SURE AS HECK WON'T LIKE WEARING A VENTALATOR!

@shoekitty I'm in VA and the first week of the mask policy if you went to my grocery store they posted someone outside and you couldn't get in without a mask. People were complaining and said they'd never shop at that store again and the worker at the door was a young (maybe 23 year old) who said "no problem if you don't like it go find one that will let you in". I'm sure that management wouldn't have been happy hearing that but I know that I, and others patronized that store BECAUSE they were enforcing that - but mask rules were only enforced about a week.

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noodleann — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 14:53:26 GMT

@shoekitty wrote:
We have mandatory masks here in California. I honor the regulation for myself, my family and people I don't know. Sort of makes me angry about people in other states making such a fuss, going to city hall meetings and demanding that it not be mandatory. That it is their right. Making people sick is not a right. I want to get on with my life. My granddaughter has a wedding most likely will be made to cancel or postpone... people have no right to decide they won't wear masks, imo. They have no right when it concerns the health of others. Who do they think they are.. jeopardizing the health and safety of others for their own pleasure and stubbornness. Wear the darn mask, social distance, wash your darn hands... and stay home if you don't like it. Stay home if you feel masks are uncomfortable. . Sometimes I think people do it to show where they aligned in political matters, or just to be contrary . Well, when it comes to the heath of others it is no political matter. One lady said, she doesn't wear a mask, it is her right. Then she said she never gets sick and takes care because she doesn't have insurance. Omg, so if she gets sick, goes to hospital , the state is going to pay for it.?
gotta rant today, thank you

I heard a good one today

IF YOU DON'T LIKE WEARING A MASK, YOU SURE AS HECK WON'T LIKE WEARING A VENTALATOR!

@shoekitty, "IF YOU DON'T LIKE WEARING A MASK, YOU SURE AS HECK WON'T LIKE WEARING A VENTILATOR" is perpetuating a canard. If you don't wear a mask, it's not you so much as those around you who could wind up on ventilators, assuming you're a carrier. It would be more accurate to say, "IF THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU WON'T WEAR MASKS, THEY DON'T MIND IF YOU WIND UP ON A VENTILATOR."

I'd say they probably don't believe they could have the virus, so they couldn't be making others sick. This isn't real to them. Anger and name-calling just cements their opposition. It's a waste of energy.

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reiki604 — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 15:42:10 GMT

To all those who argue about the benefits of wearing a mask, would you allow your surgeon and OR team not to wear masks or gloves during surgery if they found it uncomfortable for a 4 hour operation? How about a 6hr or 12 hr surgery? After all, they don't do anything and are really uncomfortable.

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Lali1 — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 15:50:37 GMT

@CrazyDaisy wrote:
Good luck enforcing

We can't even control people in the streets from destroying things yet all the people not wearing masks are going to get fined. Who's going to give out those tickets? Because police have nothing else to do but follow non mask wearers around. I'm all for masks but trying to enforce everyone wearing one is pipe dream. Some people seem to forget we have prisons full of people who don't follow rules.

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CrazyDaisy — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 15:52:59 GMT

@reiki604 wrote:
To all those who argue about the benefits of wearing a mask, would you allow your surgeon and OR team not to wear masks or gloves during surgery if they found it uncomfortable for a 4 hour operation? How about a 6hr or 12 hr surgery? After all, they don't do anything and are really uncomfortable.

Masks and gloves during an operation are to prevent bacteria from entering the incision and causing an infection. Open wounds are very sensitive to infection. That is what they were designed for, and they do a good job with bacteria. Virus is different.

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reiki604 — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 16:29:34 GMT

@CrazyDaisy wrote:
@reiki604 wrote:
To all those who argue about the benefits of wearing a mask, would you allow your surgeon and OR team not to wear masks or gloves during surgery if they found it uncomfortable for a 4 hour operation? How about a 6hr or 12 hr surgery? After all, they don't do anything and are really uncomfortable.
Masks and gloves during an operation are to prevent bacteria from entering the incision and causing an infection. Open wounds are very sensitive to infection. That is what they were designed for, and they do a good job with bacteria. Virus is different.

ROFL!!!!! But they're soooooo uncomfortable. Learn some microbiology. OH BTW. not going to argue with you anymore since that's all you want to do.

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wildcat fan — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 16:21:35 GMT

I recently traveled through North Carolina and made one stop at the newly remodeled rest area along I-40 (first NC rest area after leaving Tennessee). I was hesitant to stop, but wouldn't hesitate to stop there in the future. Everyone was wearing a mask and practicing social distancing. It was clean and the landscaping was so pretty. If how things were going at that rest area are an indicator, NC shouldn't have any problems with these guidelines.