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A good barometer for going out...

MamaWick — Fri, 01 May 2020 14:13:43 GMT

I really don’t care if they open up the hairdressers and the tattoo parlors in my state. I am staying home until the hospitals permit visitors again. That is one way that I know the scientists, and not the politicians, are calling the shots!

Not my original thought (taken from FB).

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CrazyDaisy — Fri, 01 May 2020 14:25:01 GMT

Everyone has their own comfort level and should be able to make that choice without judgement.

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on the bay — Fri, 01 May 2020 14:26:43 GMT

@MamaWick -

I never thought of that.

It would actually be a good barometer for what might be safe.

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deepwaterdotter — Fri, 01 May 2020 14:27:21 GMT

This makes good sense Lynne.

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millieshops — Fri, 01 May 2020 15:15:04 GMT

@MamaWickThat's a good barometer for me. I'm not so restless that I just have to get out; I'm already 2 decades retired and hoping not to have to work for pay again in whatever years I have left.

But because I'm in the age range, I have friends in care facilities and not being able to visit or even to hear their voice or see their face for their final weeks is likely to rank among the great sorrows of my life.

The friend I lost to Covid-19 had worked as a Hospice bereavement counselor at one time; she spoke often of the peace that came for patient, family, and even herself from those bedside hours - I wished that for her, too. Alas, not.

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Alison Wonderland — Fri, 01 May 2020 15:27:29 GMT

@millieshops wrote:

The friend I lost to Covid-19 had worked as a Hospice bereavement counselor at one time; she spoke often of the peace that came for patient, family, and even herself from those bedside hours - I wished that for her, too. Alas, not.

I'm so sorry for your loss, @millieshops . I think that is the cruelest aspect of this disease, by far.

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MamaWick — Fri, 01 May 2020 15:31:52 GMT

As an aside, everyone is different and this is just my opinion. One needs to do with what one is comfortable.

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MamaWick — Fri, 01 May 2020 17:35:07 GMT

And personally, I long to go to a sit down restaurant. We've supported take out in our rural area but I do miss full service.

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hckynut — Fri, 01 May 2020 18:19:30 GMT

Hi @MamaWick,

We went to the hospital this morning for our monthly B-12 shots. Still required to enter only through the main entrance. Check your temp and ask you a few questions.

Most of the nurses at the hospital know me so they don't accompany me to Hematology. Others that say they have an appointment are taken there by a nurse. Too many say they have an appointment, then were going up to visit a patient. So!!!

There is 1 thing that makes my visits better is parking. Don't have to hunt around for a place to park.

Good way to look at you going out. Me? I hear "ice rink open", I'm outta here.

Stay well and say hi to PapaWick, and hope I he is recovering as well as expected.

JOhn(hckynut) 🏒

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SeaMaiden — Fri, 01 May 2020 18:51:35 GMT

I can not wait to get a new Tattoo and get into a tanning bed...oh and get my hair done too🥰

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Porcelain — Fri, 01 May 2020 19:04:03 GMT

Going out to do what? Sit at a coffee shop with a mask on? Boogie down at a socially distanced night club? Try on clothes? All these activities have changed fundamentally. They are fun to do in good times. But with a deadly or debilitating virus as a possible cost of participation, the value proposition is completely changed.

I mean if there were a sign on the door at a coffee shop saying "Enter at your own risk. There's a 5-20% chance you may end up dead, permanently asthmatic, or kill your elderly family members if you come in here and another customer or one of our employees makes a safety mistake. And you'll be on your own and we won't consider ourselves responsible. 50% off croissants. Have a nice day--I would turn right around and go to a sparsesly populated park.

I'm just interested in getting together with certain other people again. And I think the OP's recommendation is a really good one for that.

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CrazyDaisy — Fri, 01 May 2020 19:44:45 GMT

@Porcelain wrote:
Going out to do what? Sit at a coffee shop with a mask on? Boogie down at a socially distanced night club? Try on clothes? All these activities have changed fundamentally. They are fun to do in good times. But with a deadly or debilitating virus as a possible cost of participation, the value proposition is completely changed.

I mean if there were a sign on the door at a coffee shop saying "Enter at your own risk. There's a 5-20% chance you may end up dead, permanently asthmatic, or kill your elderly family members if you come in here and another customer or one of our employees makes a safety mistake. And you'll be on your own and we won't consider ourselves responsible. 50% off croissants. Have a nice day--I would turn right around and go to a sparsesly populated park.

I'm just interested in getting together with certain other people again. And I think the OP's recommendation is a really good one for that.

Much Drama, Stay at home if you are not comfortable, stay safe. Other may choose to actually live the life given.

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Porcelain — Fri, 01 May 2020 19:48:03 GMT

@CrazyDaisy wrote:
@Porcelain wrote:
Going out to do what? Sit at a coffee shop with a mask on? Boogie down at a socially distanced night club? Try on clothes? All these activities have changed fundamentally. They are fun to do in good times. But with a deadly or debilitating virus as a possible cost of participation, the value proposition is completely changed.

I mean if there were a sign on the door at a coffee shop saying "Enter at your own risk. There's a 5-20% chance you may end up dead, permanently asthmatic, or kill your elderly family members if you come in here and another customer or one of our employees makes a safety mistake. And you'll be on your own and we won't consider ourselves responsible. 50% off croissants. Have a nice day--I would turn right around and go to a sparsesly populated park.

I'm just interested in getting together with certain other people again. And I think the OP's recommendation is a really good one for that.
Much Drama, Stay at home if you are not comfortable, stay safe. Other may choose to actually live the life given.

Are you getting your hair done this week? What are your big re-opening plans? From your many responses I gather you are very comfortable living your life exactly the way you did in 2019. You must be really excited and happy and I am very pleased for you.

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homedecor1 — Fri, 01 May 2020 19:52:55 GMT

@SeaMaiden

My DIL is one of the most sought out tattoo artists in her area. Like you she has customers who have called her & now booked right now thru September - she can't wait to get back to work.

In the meantime, she's a beautiful artist and has been doing original artwork for sale.

Hooefully, by June 1 they'll reopen all salons, tattoo places, nail salons 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

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Boehm Collector — Fri, 01 May 2020 19:57:03 GMT

My brother is a physician and his sister-in-law is an infectious disease specialist. I will go by their recommendations. My brother's sister-in-law recommended social distancing long before it was imposed on us.

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SeaMaiden — Fri, 01 May 2020 20:05:00 GMT

@homedecor1 wrote:
@SeaMaiden

My DIL is one of the most sought out tattoo artists in her area. Like you she has customers who have called her & now booked right now thru September - she can't wait to get back to work.

In the meantime, she's a beautiful artist and has been doing original artwork for sale.

Hooefully, by June 1 they'll reopen all salons, tattoo places, nail salons 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

@homedecor1 I was being facetious in my post.... I think it is a bad bad idea.

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hckynut — Fri, 01 May 2020 20:10:09 GMT

@Porcelain

Everyone will have a choice at some point, how and what they choose to do is up to them.

Not sure where you came up with the "5-20%" figures, maybe they are a number you randomly chose to put in your post. Those numbers are nowhere even close to the actual stats being given, by state and even by city, to actual virus numbers.

Those percentage(%) numbers are the only reason for this reply. Like my good friend @MamaWick the OP, I agree with her opening post.

hckynut(john)

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Porcelain — Fri, 01 May 2020 20:17:46 GMT

@hckynut wrote:
@Porcelain

Everyone has will have a choice at some point, how and what they choose to do is up to them.

Not sure where you came up with the "5-20%" figures, maybe they are a number you randomly chose to put in your post. Those numbers are nowhere even close to the actual stats being given, by state and even by city, to actual virus numbers.

Those percentage(%) numbers are the only reason for this reply. Like my good friend @MamaWick the OP, I agree with her opening post.

hckynut(john)

5% mortality 20% hospitalization. Not cut and dried by any means. I'm not going to debate about numbers and percentages. They can slice in many directions. I get enough of that with my dad, God love him.

For me even .25% chance of any of that -- even just a slight chance of 2 weeks of barely being able to breathe or move around at home and the gigantic bother of upending my life in order to avoid infecting my husband -- would keep me out of a coffee shop. That's all based on a situatione where a worker at a coffee shop or another customer made a safety mistake while I was there and they infected me.

It's not a general chance every time you go out the door. It's based on the very real and possible misfortune of bumping into an unaware infected person who makes a mistake. And right now there's no way of identifying such people.

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Boehm Collector — Fri, 01 May 2020 20:25:18 GMT

@hckynut and @Porcelain .. I don't know where those percentages came from either. But if you consider that there are 1,079,894 confirmed cases in the US with 62,672 deaths that amounts to 5.80% of those infected have passed away. In my town there are 436 confirmed case with 20 deaths..... that amounts to 4.59%. And if you take into account that there may be many people who have it but are asymptomatic .. the percentages are even lower.

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tansy — Fri, 01 May 2020 20:23:10 GMT

You need to be careful about getting back on the ice rink when it opens up, @hckynut, as a 70 plus male with previous heart issues.

I'm sure your wife and the felines don't want to lose you.