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Capt. Crozier Tests Positive

Marp — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 18:41:03 GMT

Excerpt from the NYT:

Capt. Brett E. Crozier, the Navy captain who was removed from command of the coronavirus-stricken aircraft carrier U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt, has tested positive for Covid-19, according to two Naval Academy classmates of Captain Crozier’s who are close to him and his family.

A Navy spokesman declined to comment on Captain Crozier’s Covid status.

The commander began exhibiting symptoms before he was removed from the warship on Thursday, two of his classmates said. Captain Crozier was fired following a leak to The San Francisco Chronicle of a letter he had emailed to Navy leaders that detailed the failures on the service’s part to provide the necessary resources to swiftly move sailors off the carrier and disinfect areas on board as the virus spread through the ship.

Secretary of Defense Mark T. Esper said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union” that there were 155 confirmed cases of Covid-19 among sailors aboard the aircraft carrier, and that more than half of the ship had been tested. So far there have been no hospitalizations.

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goldensrbest — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 18:43:35 GMT

God bless him,he did what was right,and got the raw end of the deal.

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Nightowlz — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 18:56:38 GMT

Hope he will be ok. Good for him for speaking out. We all know what happens in the military when you do that. They normally don't speak out. Someone had to speak out this time IMO. I guess he was just suppose to stay quiet while they all got sick???

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saltysails — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:02:14 GMT

He is an idiot. Glad he was fired. What he did was a security issue. You don't let on the countries that one of our carriers has health issues with it's crew. So, so dumb.

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Porcelain — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:08:53 GMT

He shouldn't have had to try that hard to get help for his crew. His crew should have been helped as soon as the problem was identified. At this rate, the whole military will be exposed to the virus in an uncontrolled manner, making us all vulnerable.

Our military deserves our support and to be treated with respect, not as a throwaway that can be ignored just because protocol forbids complaints. Siliencing people is a gross misuse of the concept of a chain of command, and degrades it by turning it against those who have to rely on it being used ethically for their benefit.

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Caligurll — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:13:31 GMT

@saltysails wrote:
He is an idiot. Glad he was fired. What he did was a security issue. You don't let on the countries that one of our carriers has health issues with it's crew. So, so dumb.

@saltysails I think whoever is responsible for letting the WHOLE COUNTRY be exposed to infection is/are the one/ones responsible for any security issues.

I think he's a hero, at least he values human life.

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jeanlake — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:19:22 GMT

Sometimes, when no one's listening, you have to find ways to save lives. But security needs to be considered as well. Two sides -- no one's going to agree.

Sending Captain Crozier thoughts of recovery and health and peace.

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QVCkitty1 — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:28:52 GMT

He showed real courage, for I'm sure he knew that it might not go well for him. I wish there were consequences for all of those who are responsible for his demotion, from the very top down.

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on the bay — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:37:24 GMT

Except that I had read and heard that there was a call to help to Navy leaders from the Capt. via email to them! about the urgency to help these 155 sailors and it was disregarded or deemed not urgent,

because none of them were "critical" but "mild" and none needed hospitalization.

The whole issue came to light when the media got hold of these 155 sailors being kept on board

and being infected while probably infecting the entire shop!

If the Navy commanders had done what was compassionate and caring about their sailors first, I think this could have been handled with no security issues at all!

edited to add-my son was in the army and my father too and believe me, I know how things regarding health are covered up!

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Marp — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:39:40 GMT

This information is six days old so I suspect well understated it is clear covid-19 is a systemic problem for the military. Excerpted from https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/03/30/the-number-of-troops-hospitalized-for-covid-19-doubled-over-the-weekend/

There are 26 service members are receiving in-patient treatment after contracting coronavirus, according to Defense Department data, more than twice the 12 who were hospitalized on Friday.

They are just a handful of the 1087 DoD-affiliated cases as of Monday’s update, representing a 67-percent jump during the weekend, with cases among troops rising from 309 to 569.

The new numbers bring the services’ infection rate to 438 per million. That compares to the general 375 per-million among the U.S. population, per the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

DoD’s death rate continues to be lower than the general public’s, however, with zero service members having succumbed to the disease, and a 0.2 percent death rate overall, with civilians, dependents and contractors factored in.

An Army spouse died Thursday of COVID-19 complications, following the March 21 death of a Washington, D.C.-area contractor. The U.S. death rate stands at 1.7 percent currently.

As the number of cases continues to rise, the Pentagon is considering how it manages reporting the numbers to the public.

“We’ve issued department-wide guidance to release COVID numbers through service branches for regular, consistent reporting,” a senior defense official told Military Times on Monday, tamping down on unit, region and installation releases of the numbers.

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chessylady — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:36:53 GMT

I'm sure the moms, dads,husbands,wives and children of the sailors on that ship are eternally grateful to Capain Crozier for valuing their lives over his own career. I am grateful too.

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Infinite Mom 47 — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:39:02 GMT

Wishing best of luck to Captain Crozier. I'm proud of you.

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Drythe — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:43:30 GMT

I send the very best wishes for health, recovery, and good future to this man who had the courage, and decency to speak up on behalf of these human beings who volunteered to serve our country.

He clearly has the understanding, which is sadly lacking elsewhere in the chain, that left unchecked, this disease increases exponentially, with positive cases doubling about every 2.3 days.

Salute Captain Cozier! ⭐️

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Vivian — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:48:12 GMT

If the captain had not called attention to the impending disaster on the ship, lives would have been lost. Rules and regulations become absurd when they supercede human life.

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Greeneyedlady21 — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:55:35 GMT

@Vivian wrote:
If the captain had not called attention to the impending disaster on the ship, lives would have been lost. Rules and regulations become absurd when they supercede human life.

I agree. I hope and pray he recovers. And I admire him.

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Kachina624 — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 20:39:15 GMT

@saltysails wrote:
He is an idiot. Glad he was fired. What he did was a security issue. You don't let on the countries that one of our carriers has health issues with it's crew. So, so dumb.

@saltysails It was on the nightly news long before he wrote the letter.

I heard a distinguished citizen this morning say he should be commended.

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grandma r — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 20:58:39 GMT

I am so sorry to hear this. Prayers for his recovery.

As for the way he was treated.......disgraceful!!!

As Captain of the vessel, it was his duty to protect his crew, which is exactly what he did. Perhaps the "chain of command" did nothing to help.

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goldensrbest — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 21:04:02 GMT

HE was looking out for the health of his crew, the idots are those that punished him,and agree that was correct.

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patbz — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 21:06:19 GMT

I'm betting that Captain Crosier may have a shortened career but that (at a minimum) he will pick up a "talking head" gig at one of the networks. He did the right thing.

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sunshine 919 — Sun, 05 Apr 2020 21:28:10 GMT

@saltysails wrote:
He is an idiot. Glad he was fired. What he did was a security issue. You don't let on the countries that one of our carriers has health issues with it's crew. So, so dumb.

Wow I see him as a hero, I am concerned about the men on that ship.