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Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day

lovescats — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 17:29:43 GMT

Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day, the first paid state holiday recognizing a woman in the US

The transition from commemorating Columbus to Cabrini is a step forward
"The pain that they (indigenous people) endure and the historical trauma endured by indigenous people in this country as a result of what Columbus has put in place is real," Rep. Adrienne Benavidez, one of the bill's sponsors, told CNN.. "And this is a step forward in erasing that pain."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/us/colorado-columbus-day-cabrini-day-trnd/?hpt=ob_blogfooterold

Re: Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day

Kachina624 — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 17:33:50 GMT

Sorry, but I wouldn't be enthused about celebrating somebody I'd never heard of.

Re: Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day

stevieb — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 17:43:19 GMT

@Kachina624 The thing is, there are already holidays some folks wouldn't necessarily have elected to 'celebrate'... That said, this hardly seems like an all around great choice as a subject of celebration if the focus was to have been on Native Americans... I'm sure Cabrini is deserving of recognition, but not sure either she or Columbus really deserves a day of their own...

Re: Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day

Cakers3 — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 17:44:33 GMT

Was Columbus ever in Colorado?

Re: Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day

Cakers3 — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 17:51:16 GMT

St. Kateri Tekakwitha seems to be a better choice: She is the patron saint of the environment, Native Indigenous People, and people in exile.

Re: Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day

kaydee50 — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 18:11:09 GMT

@Kachina624 St Frances Xavier Cabrini was the first naturalized citizen of the U.S. to be canonized. While I don't see the connection to Colorado, I guess because she is Italian she was substituted for Columbus.

As a later post mentions Kateri Tekawitha would seem more appropriate.

Re: Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day

qbetzforreal — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 18:24:27 GMT

This is Mother Cabrini's link to Colorado. The state honoring her makes sense:

In 1904, Cabrini established Denver's Queen of Heaven Orphanage for girls, including many orphans of local Italian miners. In 1910, she purchased rural property from the town of Golden, on the east slope of Lookout Mountain, as a summer camp for the girls. A small farming operation was established and maintained by three of the Sisters of the Sacred Heart. The camp dormitory, built of native rock and named the Stone House, was completed in 1914 and later listed on the National Register of Historic Places.[20]

Re: Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day

qbetzforreal — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 18:27:23 GMT

@kaydee50 wrote:
@Kachina624 St Frances Xavier Cabrini was the first naturalized citizen of the U.S. to be canonized. While I don't see the connection to Colorado, I guess because she is Italian she was substituted for Columbus.

As a later post mentions Kateri Tekawitha would seem more appropriate.

@kaydee50-Colorado has a shrine dedicated to her in Golden Springs, CO.

Re: Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day

SilleeMee — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 18:32:43 GMT

I live in Colorado and I have not heard about this until just now.

Re: Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day

Cakers3 — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 18:33:38 GMT

@qbetzforreal wrote:
This is Mother Cabrini's link to Colorado. The state honoring her makes sense:

In 1904, Cabrini established Denver's Queen of Heaven Orphanage for girls, including many orphans of local Italian miners. In 1910, she purchased rural property from the town of Golden, on the east slope of Lookout Mountain, as a summer camp for the girls. A small farming operation was established and maintained by three of the Sisters of the Sacred Heart. The camp dormitory, built of native rock and named the Stone House, was completed in 1914 and later listed on the National Register of Historic Places.[20]

@qbetzforreal Her service was to Italian immigrants, specifically girls, and orphans. The west was flooded with Italian immigrants to work the mines. She was advised to do this by the Pope.

Re: Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day

dancingwoman — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 18:36:23 GMT

@SilleeMee Neither have I....DW

Re: Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day

qbetzforreal — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 18:53:13 GMT

@Cakers3 wrote:
@qbetzforreal wrote:
This is Mother Cabrini's link to Colorado. The state honoring her makes sense:

In 1904, Cabrini established Denver's Queen of Heaven Orphanage for girls, including many orphans of local Italian miners. In 1910, she purchased rural property from the town of Golden, on the east slope of Lookout Mountain, as a summer camp for the girls. A small farming operation was established and maintained by three of the Sisters of the Sacred Heart. The camp dormitory, built of native rock and named the Stone House, was completed in 1914 and later listed on the National Register of Historic Places.[20]
@qbetzforreal Her service was to Italian immigrants, specifically girls, and orphans. The west was flooded with Italian immigrants to work the mines. She was advised to do this by the Pope.

@Cakers3-ok

Re: Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day

lovescats — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 19:49:40 GMT

In Hispaniola, Columbus’ first stop in the Americas, the native Taino population (an indigenous Arawak people) had no immunity to new infectious diseases, including smallpox, measles and influenza. There were an estimated 250,000 indigenous people in Hispaniola in 1492. By 1517, only 14,000 remained.

https://omrf.org/2013/10/10/columbus-brought-more-than-ships-to-the-new-world/

Colorado will commemorate Frances Xavier Cabrini, who according to the bill is responsible for establishing 67 schools, hospitals, and orphanages in the United States and South and Central America throughout her lifetime.

However, in recent years, several states and cities have stopped observing the October holiday altogether in response to a growing movement to change Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples' Day.

This includes Washington, D.C., North Carolina, Louisiana, Hawaii, Alaska, New Mexico, Vermont and more, as they choose to celebrate the holiday honoring the native populations who were displaced after Columbus and other European explorers reached the continent. Historians largely agree that despite popular belief, Columbus did not "discover" the Americas since people were already there and neither was he the first European to reach the "New World."

https://scoop.upworthy.com/colorado-replaces-columbus-day-cabrini-day-first-paid-state-holiday-honoring-woman

Re: Colorado will replace Columbus Day with Cabrini Day

Cakers3 — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 21:59:05 GMT

It's nice Colorado wants to have a day of honor but the announcement read that the indigenous people have suffered, which I agree.

To remove Columbus is their choice, and again, I agree.

However, Columbus has nothing to do with Colorado; I asked that question earlier.

To honor the indigenous peoples seems to be side-stepped by honoring St. Cabrini.

I know she has a shrine; I've been there. I also know my saints-trust me, the nuns made sure. LOL

The announcement came off more as having the first female saint honored rather than choosing a female saint who had more to do with indigenous peoples.

That's my point.