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What actually works

goldensrbest — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 17:25:26 GMT

Cleaning produts, is what i want to ask,yes i have googled,searched, what kills virus on our house hold items? My mom is soon to be 85, i want to order some stuff ,that will do this.

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deepwaterdotter — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 17:28:51 GMT

I still rely on a pair of rubber gloves, a rag, and a bottle of chlorine bleach.

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chrystaltree — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 17:32:39 GMT

There are no cleaning products that will make your home permanently and 100% impervious to any and all viruses.

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alicedee — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 17:36:01 GMT

Bleach and water for washable surfaces like floors, toilet and counters. Antibacterial dish soap. I spray my bathroom periodically with Lyesol.

Then I consider I am as clean as I'm going to get!

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Porcelain — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 17:48:37 GMT

@goldensrbest wrote:
Cleaning produts, is what i want to ask,yes i have googled,searched, what kills virus on our house hold items? My mom is soon to be 85, i want to order some stuff ,that will do this.

I use the Scentiva Clorox wipes. They're pleasant to use and smell really nice, so I am drawn to using them more often. The Pacific Breeze and Coconut scent smells like a vacation. And it's still clorox and kills 99.9% of the germs. They have them at Walmart.

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occasionalrain — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 17:53:30 GMT

I use 91% alcohol. Antibacterial isn't Antiviral. I don't want Clorox since it produces chlorine fumes which are harmful.

The last I read was that a higher percentage of men are dying than women and most at risk are over 70 and those with underlying medical issues like diabetes.

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Spurt — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 17:58:23 GMT

@goldensrbest

Best ways to disinfect surfaces at home or work to fight coronavirus

by Connie Thompson | KOMO News

Thursday, February 27th 2020

SEATTLE -- The concern about the new coronavirus has a lot of us being more diligent about wiping down our desks, counters and other surfaces that we touch. But according to people who are experts at environmental surface cleaning, a lot of us get it wrong.

When it comes to fighting illnesses, ingredients matter. There's a distinct difference between cleaners, which get rid of dirt, and disinfectants, which kill germs. Popular household disinfectants claim to kill 99.9% of viruses and bacteria. The Environmental Protection Agency says those disinfectants are thought to be effective against the coronavirus, but their ability to actually kill the virus has not been scientifically proven. So the key word is they may be effective.

Here's what else you should know: Whether you use wipes or a liquid solution, always wipe in one direction to avoid recontaminating the surface as you're wiping.

And here's something a lot of us miss: The surface must stay wet with disinfectant long enough to kill the bugs.

Read the instructions and you'll see that you may need to have the treated surface remain visibly wet with disinfectant for four full minutes. For large surfaces you might do better with a disinfectant spray.

And avoid using the same wipe for everything. Discard and replace wipes frequently as you wipe.

When you read the fine print on some disinfectant labels you'll see reference to human coronavirus. This is not the same as the novel coronavirus disease we're dealing with now- formally named COVID-19. Human coronavirus is a common virus like a cold.

Also, quarantine your germ-ridden TV remotes. They're routinely used by multiple hands and disinfectant can't get reach the crevices. To guard against that source of viruses and bacteria, seal each remote in a plastic storage bag. You can still see and push the controls, and keep the bag surface clean.

Finally, keep in mind that disinfecting surfaces only goes so far because a major source of disease transmission is still in your hands.

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goldensrbest — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 18:02:42 GMT

CDC has a list of products also, i found it.

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Kachina624 — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 18:07:37 GMT

@Spurt How about your telephones? Keep them in plastic bags too? I have a feeling that might not go well. I'm glad I live alone with my germs.

"Also, quarantine your germ-ridden TV remotes. They're routinely used by multiple hands and disinfectant can't get reach the crevices. To guard against that source of viruses and bacteria, seal each remote in a plastic storage bag. You can still see and push the controls, and keep the bag surface clean."

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sann — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 18:45:22 GMT

Bleach is the best disinfectant in my opinion.

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RedTop — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 19:02:28 GMT

@goldensrbest,

The biggest risk for my 85 year old mother is thru what is carried in to her home environment. She is not out and about to pick up anything. Her exposure would be thru us kids and grandkids, her newspaper and mail, grocery items, or other visitors.

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GenXmuse — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 19:03:33 GMT

Lysol

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Imaoldhippie — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 20:37:45 GMT

No cleaning product exists that kills virus. Antibacteria kills most bacteria. Using normal cleaning products will suffice.

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goldensrbest — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 20:47:30 GMT

I got my mom some things on the cdc,list from amazon,but lots of stuff is sold out.

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MorningLover — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 21:10:23 GMT

I try never to be out of 70% isopropyl alcohol, clorox wipes and bleach.

70% isopropyl alcohol is most commonly used disinfectant in pharmaceutical industries. The important thing is that only 70% solution of isopropyl alcohol acts as a disinfectant killing all surface microorganisms. It is used to disinfect hands and equipment surface in pharmaceuticals.

A 70% solution of alcohol takes more time in evaporation from the surface, therefore increasing surface contact time and enhancing effectiveness.

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50Mickey — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 00:05:21 GMT

@RedTop wrote:
@goldensrbest,
The biggest risk for my 85 year old mother is thru what is carried in to her home environment. She is not out and about to pick up anything. Her exposure would be thru us kids and grandkids, her newspaper and mail, grocery items, or other visitors.

@RedTop The CDC and infectious disease specialists have said there is no risk of this virus being transmitted via a box or mail even if boxes are sent from China. If one is suspicious of purchasing items from China best stay away from most stores especially Walmart. Many more people in this country are dying from the flu. So far one person in the US has died from this virus. People get a grip. Mass hysteria is not helpful.

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occasionalrain — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 00:20:27 GMT

Stress makes a person more susceptible to illness. Many people will get this virus, have no symptoms and recover unaware they were ever infected.

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SilleeMee — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 00:51:47 GMT

@occasionalrain wrote:
I use 91% alcohol. Antibacterial isn't Antiviral. I don't want Clorox since it produces chlorine fumes which are harmful.

The last I read was that a higher percentage of men are dying than women and most at risk are over 70 and those with underlying medical issues like diabetes.

Alcohol is effective but not 91%. Use 70% because higher concentrations evaporate too fast and that will leave behind viable microbes. Apply a fair amount of 70% alcohol and let dry down slowly, do not fan it. This is to make sure the alcohol dissolves the protective coatings found around microbes which leads to their demise.

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SilleeMee — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 00:56:04 GMT

A 10% bleach solution is a very effective disinfectant. But be aware that once you make the solution it will only be good for a day. You need to make it fresh daily. Always store bleach in it's original opaque container. Light destroys bleach's disinfecting effects quickly.

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msgb — Wed, 04 Mar 2020 04:00:52 GMT

Lysol wipes. Homemade I use some vinegar and water. Or else I use part water and a bit of lemon. I always use gloves. All these dry out the hands.