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suzyQ3 — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 22:14:48 GMT

...except that my family had the amazing pleasure of seeing these majestic animals very close up on our Tanzania safari last summer, which for this lover of elephants was a dream come true:

Botswana Selling Licenses To Kill Elephants At $39,000 A Head

Botswana has auctioned off permits that will allow hunters to kill elephants for some $39,000 a head, infuriating environmentalists and animal lovers around the globe.

The pricey permit system will allow hunters to kill 70 elephants in all.

The permit auction was arranged by Auction It Ltd. on behalf of the government on Friday in packages of 10 elephants, according to a document viewed by Bloomberg. The packages are purchased by expedition operators who sell them to trophy hunters at a profit. Most trophy hunters in southern Africa come from the U.S., according to Bloomberg.

All but one of the packages have been sold, Bloomberg reported.

African conservationist organizations that wanted to bid on the permits and not shoot the elephants were banned from participating, The Independent reported.

The EMS Foundation in Africa, which battles to protect elephants among its many projects, tweeted afterward: “Shame on you, President Masisi – we will not forget.”

The government has set a quota for killing a total of 272 of the animals this year. Foreign hunters will be allowed to shoot 202 of those, and export trophies.

Poaching also takes a major toll on elephants. Conservationists warn that hunting is particularly devastating because trophy hunters are after the largest, often healthiest, animals.

“Trophy hunting is artificial selection. By targeting the biggest and strongest animals, it leaves the weaker, smaller animals behind,” Eduardo Goncalves, founder of the Campaign to Ban Trophy Hunting, told The Independent. “This means the best genes are being lost, so the species will be less able to adapt to accelerating climate change, it will be more prone to disease, and the risk of extinction is greater.”

Botswana instituted a ban on elephant trophy hunting in 2014. But that ban has been revoked, and President Mokgweetsi Masisi promoted elephant hunting last year. Farmers have complained about an increase in dangerous encounters with elephants.

Besides concerns about the loss of the animals, and their suffering, conservationists have argued that Botswana’s important tourist industry could be devastated by the change, which will likely outrage visitors. Tourism accounts for a fifth of the African nation’s economy.

Botswana is home to some 130,000 elephants, the world’s largest population. But Africa’s total elephant population has plummeted by more than two-thirds in 40 years, from 1.3 million in 1979 to 415,000 in 2015, according to official figures.

Source: Huffington Post

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QueenDanceALot — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 22:20:12 GMT

This is just horrific!!!

I don't know what else to say right now that wouldn't get me banned.

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QueenDanceALot — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 22:21:23 GMT

I absolutely DESPISE trophy hunting and trophy hunters.

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suzyQ3 — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 22:23:02 GMT

@QueenDanceALot wrote:
This is just horrific!!!

I don't know what else to say right now that wouldn't get me banned.

@QueenDanceALot, I totally understand. I would like this thread to stay up.

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San Antonio Gal — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 22:31:47 GMT

Terrible and very upsetting!!!

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Porcelain — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 22:35:22 GMT

Name the people involved and ruin their businesses. If they want to spend their money on the murder of kind and intelligent family-oriented animals, let them justify that decision to everyone they meet for the rest of their lives and let their sources of that money go away.

And I wasn't planning on going to Botswana anyway, but I think they should lose their tourism money until they fix this. The number of vicious big game hunters is much much smaller than the number of animal lovers. No one wants to go on a safari that features a traumatized herd of elephants who just had their Matriarch slaughtered.

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NEvans2 — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 22:49:22 GMT

I have never,nor will I ever, understand the "sport" of trophy hunting. WTF? Inhumane, horrific, appalling. What thrill do people get from it? It should be internationally banned. And if a country is caught allowing it, there should be very serious repercussions.

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Goldengate8361 — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 22:50:26 GMT

This would be a great time for Harry or William to speak up. This is absolutely horrible!!!

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occasionalrain — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 22:55:51 GMT

Why haven't Harry and Meghan spoken out opposing this? Probably there were trophy hunters among those in attendance at the Miami affair.

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Mersha — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 22:57:22 GMT

Absolutely horrific. It makes me physically ill.

As long as I live, I will NEVER understand how some consider it "sport" to kill a living creature. There is something twisted and incredibly perverse about doing so.

Yes, I became a vegetarian many years ago.

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maximillian — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 23:01:27 GMT

Human beings are the cruelest form of life on the planet.

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Spurt — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 23:18:50 GMT

SO SAD!!!! ......Oh, what I would like to do to those trophy hunters and all people that arranged this....GGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

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Mindy D — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 23:23:11 GMT

The headline made me gag.

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threecees — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 23:41:52 GMT

I wish animals could carry weapons and do away with them!

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happycat — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 23:32:42 GMT

I don't know if we give Botswana any foreign aid, but if we do, I think we need to stop.

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RoughDraft — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 23:46:40 GMT

@occasionalrain wrote:
Why haven't Harry and Meghan spoken out opposing this? Probably there were trophy hunters among those in attendance at the Miami affair.

At least they don't trophy hunt. I'll sit on my paws now.

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Snicks1 — Mon, 10 Feb 2020 00:16:55 GMT

This just makes me sick.

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Drythe — Mon, 10 Feb 2020 00:46:12 GMT

I loath and despise any person who is anyway involved in this.

@porcelain - we do know some people who participate, hasn’t hurt them a bit that I can tell. 😖

Why in the .... is it called a sport? It would only be a sport if the Elephants were equally armed.

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suzyQ3 — Mon, 10 Feb 2020 00:50:16 GMT

@Drythe wrote:
I loath and despise any person who is anyway involved in this.

@porcelain - we do know some people who participate, hasn’t hurt them a bit that I can tell. 😖

Why in the .... is it called a sport? It would only be a sport if the Elephants were equally armed.

@Drytheand others, please tread lightly. I consider this thread to be akin to a Public Service Announcement that I hope horrifies and energizes people.:-)

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spiderw — Mon, 10 Feb 2020 01:38:40 GMT

This is an abomination, upsetting, horrific, cruel ignorant act, murdering animals for no reason but a thrill. What I wish on all the hunters who will be involved can't be written because of the anger and disgust I feel. These people are despicable and have no place in this world. They should be donating their thousands of dollars to hunt to charities.

Massisi should be harshly punished for this act of cruelty and thrown in jail. I am not surprised the idiots who bought permits are from the US and I can imagine some of the names and their positions.

These trophy hunters are without scruples, value systems, dignity, self respect. Often killing animals transitions into harming people. May they all reap what they sow and suffer the pain and anguish these creatures suffer at their hand. Power and how it is so dangerous.