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Balanced and Insightful Interview Today: Harry's Friend and a Royal Expert Talk

golding76 — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 19:57:13 GMT

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The interview took place today, January 10, in London, and I came away from it feeling that the viewpoints of both "sides" in this Sussex Stand Down were presented fairly.

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phoenixbrd — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 18:18:33 GMT

@ I do appreciate your post. I watched the interview....did not change my perspective... more of the same. If you are accepting money...you have responsibility and you are not independent. Independence is creating your own ability to sustain your lifestyle. Entitled people with their first world issues. I'll place my energy elsewhere. My heart is with the taxpayers in the UK who paid 2.5 million renovating Frogmore for starters.

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Vivian — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 17:48:46 GMT

I shall open myself up to attack but Joy Behar did the same on The Talk today. Without saying too much, I wonder if Harry feels that he is not a real member of the royal family anyway and has the right to do as he pleases.

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golding76 — Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:50:10 GMT

Vivian,

I did not watch "The View" today, but if you are hinting at what I believe you are, I must admit that thought has crossed my mind ever since the explosive news hit the airways.

It is entirely credible, in my opinion, that Harry is trying to carve out his own, authentic identity.

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stevieb — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 18:11:11 GMT

@Vivian wrote:
I shall open myself up to attack but Joy Behar did the same on The Talk today. Without saying too much, I wonder if Harry feels that he is not a real member of the royal family anyway and has the right to do as he pleases.

I've thought too that Harry is in the midst of his own conundrum about his role. Despite the fact he and we have always known William would be the heir, the two boys were both always front and center. As time has marched on, Harry's role, even as 'the spare', has diminished. Prior to his marriage, he was more or less included with the Cambridge 'court' but once he wasnt, his star more or less dimmed... On the one hand, he wants his independence and on the other I suspect that at some level he might resent the reality that he is not, nor should he be, part of the 'inner circle' anymore. It seems to me, though, that the queen has made every reasonable effort that he should feel important and included, but along with wanting his own life and along, I believe, with being pushed by his wife, I suspect Harry's nose is at least a little out of joint that William, his wife and his family have become the main event...

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Sooner — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 18:19:50 GMT

@stevieb wrote:
@Vivian wrote:
I shall open myself up to attack but Joy Behar did the same on The Talk today. Without saying too much, I wonder if Harry feels that he is not a real member of the royal family anyway and has the right to do as he pleases.
I've thought too that Harry is in the midst of his own conundrum about his role. Despite the fact he and we have always known William would be the heir, the two boys were both always front and center. As time has marched on, Harry's role, even as 'the spare', has diminished. Prior to his marriage, he was more or less included with the Cambridge 'court' but once he wasnt, his star more or less dimmed... On the one hand, he wants his independence and on the other I suspect that at some level he might resent the reality that he is not, nor should he be, part of the 'inner circle' anymore. It seems to me, though, that the queen has made every reasonable effort that he should feel important and included, but along with wanting his own life and along, I believe, with being pushed by his wife, I suspect Harry's nose is at least a little out of joint that William, his wife and his family have become the main event...

@stevieb Just as his mother felt. Especially about her husband. All of the affairs both of them had aside, I think that this was the main issue: Who should be ther center of attention, Charles or Diana.

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stevieb — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 18:37:03 GMT

There are also several very good articles on the Atlantic website... What I come away with after synthesizing the various articles and interviews is little changed from my initial perception of all this. I think Camilla (in the interview, not Charles' wife...) hit the nail on the head by pointing out, as have many others, that you simply can't expect to call all the shots... You simply can't have your cake and eat it too... Harry's goals may be honest and legitimate, though I suspect his wife has goals of her own... but regardless, both his expectations and his approach are foolish... There are very few people in this world, if any, who get to 'cherry pick' all aspects of their life... This duo are, in effect, saying they want to live where they want to live when they want to live there, that they want to retain royal status but perform only those royal duties they choose, that they want to choose what media to which they release information and so on... It simply isn't realistic or reasonable... It all boils down to them apparently thinking they're more special than they are...

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SandySparkles — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 18:46:21 GMT

I feel bad for all parties involved in this media fiasco, as it plays out in the court of public opinion. It seems that press releases are contradictory, almost daily. I can't say what Harry, Meghan, Kate, William, The Queen or any member of the Royal Family "feel" or "think", but it's apparent the world fascination is not going anywhere, anytime soon. It's ratings gold for the media, but many lives are being adversely affected because of it. Because they are such high profile public figures, that opens them up to public scrutiny, but it's just a very sad situation.

~~~All we need is LOVE

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corita — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 19:46:41 GMT

I think that Harry has always felt a bit of a 'third wheel' in the family role. I also think he feels that his wife has been picked on since they announced that they were dating. Can't blame him for wanting to be rid of that media scrutiny.

But whether he likes it or not, he is part of English royalty and will always be tied to that line. I do think it is a bit questionable to want to be dislodged from the royal family and required functions, but still want to be attached to the royal finances. Am not sure that formula will work....

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chrystaltree — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 19:52:51 GMT

I assume that Youtube interview is not with Harry and Meghan and the Queen? That's just someone else's opinions? I'm sick of it. The Queen wants this fiasco resolved and over in quick time and I hope she gets her wish. The constant stories and articles and opinions and rumors and lies serve no purpose except to keep us all entertained. We'll never know the true story, the whole story because while Harry and Meghan most certainly will go public with their side after they have exited "the firm". The firm most certainly will never address any of it publicly. Honestly, I think there really is only one "side". Harry and Meghan wish to disengage themselves and to live their lives on their own terms and they want the right to make their own money. The firm has to figure out how to make that happen as quickly as possible to end the abysmal stories in the press and so that they can all get on with their lives.

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reiki604 — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 20:00:40 GMT

@chrystaltree wrote:
I assume thatYoutubee interview is not with Harry and Meghan and the Queen? That's just someone else's opinions? I'm sick of it. The Queen wants this fiasco resolved and over in quick time and I hope she gets her wish. The constant stories and articles and opinions and rumors and lies serve no purpose except to keep us all entertained. We'll never know the true story, the whole story because while Harry and Meghan most certainly will go public with their side after they have exited "the firm". The firm most certainly will never address any of it publicly. Honestly, I think there really is only one "side". Harry and Meghan wish to disengage themselves and to live their lives on their own terms and they want the right to make their own money. The firm has to figure out how to make that happen as quickly as possible to end the abysmal stories in the press and so that they can all get on with their lives.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. In addition, I find it almost humorous to see posters on this site rail either for or against Harry and Meghan and assign 'blame' when they have no information based on knowledge of the situation or those involved, only in their own opinions based on nothing.

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RainCityWoman — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 20:21:49 GMT

It wouldn't matter what the couple did. Britain has a harsh media and a judgmental public. They resent the royals, but given the option, they want to keep them in the manner they have been accustomed. Meghan has two things working against her in that society: she's American and she's mixed race, both points of derision for many in the country. Before Diana and Fergie, they ripped Margaret apart, and princess Anne took her share of abuse as well. They abhored Wallis Simpson, even though SHE was NOT the one who was a Nazi sympathizer. I admire Harry and Meghan for wanting to generate income on their own and for still doing their duties to the royal family as well. They want to raise their child with a less insular view of life as well. How dare them want what they think is best for their child.

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dulwich — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 20:39:17 GMT

@reiki604 I think under any circumstances people will always have opinions for or against on most topics and that, thank goodness, we are free to express them is human nature.

Having grown up with there always being a Royal Family in my life. Our now Queen and her parents were there with us during the War in London and the Queen has been there most of my life. Several members of DH and my family have served in military and we still have members working with the Royals so yes we do have opinions - mine being disappointment at the way these two very privileged people handled their situation.

I agree with @chrystaltree let them be off there should be no part-time Royals do the job or go - step down, be independent end this silliness.

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reiki604 — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 20:43:51 GMT

@dulwich wrote:
@reiki604 I think under any circumstances people will always have opinions for or against on most topics and that, thank goodness, we are free to express them is human nature.

Having grown up with there always being a Royal Family in my life. Our now Queen and her parents were there with us during the War in London and the Queen has been there most of my life. Several members of DH and my family have served in military and we still have members working with the Royals so yes we do have opinions - mine being disappointment at the way these two very privileged people handled their situation.

I agree with @chrystaltree let them be off there should be no part-time Royals do the job or go - step down, be independent end this silliness.

@dulwich of course people have opinions and they should be based in some sort of reality. Opinions about a situation is one thing. To blame and give motivations to an individual one does not know is more than unfair and unjust. Given your background, your opinion is based on experience. That's a totally different thing than the bad-mouthing that has happened on these boards on a regular basis.

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lovesrecess — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 20:55:28 GMT

I was more supportive of Harry and Meghan until I saw that Oprah has inserted herself into the whole situation....ridiculous! She is even more full of herself than I thought, and Harry and Meghan not as bright as I thought if they are looking to her for guidance in their life decisions. I think it is officially silly season at Buckingham Palace.

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Pearlee — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 20:57:14 GMT

@lovesrecess wrote:
I was more supportive of Harry and Meghan until I saw that Oprah has inserted herself into the whole situation....ridiculous! She is even more full of herself than I thought, and Harry and Meghan not as bright as I thought if they are looking to her for guidance in their life decisions. I think it is officially silly season at Buckingham Palace.

@lovesrecess Oprah is denying inserting herself into the situation.

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lovesrecess — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 21:02:05 GMT

Are Meghan and Kate they same age? If so, there is a real contrast in maturity, naïveté, and self-centeredness. I feel so sorry for baby Archie who has been left with a nanny for weeks at a time while Meghan goes off too “find herself”. If she wants to live free from the royals, that’s fine, but she shouldn’t be taking Harry and her baby down with her. Harry was vulnerable when she ,arrived him and she has taken advantage of him in a big way. Sounds like they fancy themselves as Hollywood moguls.....and expect to still have financial benefits from the U.K. as well as their titles. I hope Meghan’s title is the first one to be yanked.

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lovesrecess — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 21:03:25 GMT

Nobody has picked on Meghan. Any scrutiny or criticism she has had has been brought about by herself.

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nevergivesup — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 21:49:51 GMT

@lovesrecess wrote:
Are Meghan and Kate they same age? If so, there is a real contrast in maturity, naïveté, and self-centeredness. I feel so sorry for baby Archie who has been left with a nanny for weeks at a time while Meghan goes off too “find herself”. If she wants to live free from the royals, that’s fine, but she shouldn’t be taking Harry and her baby down with her. Harry was vulnerable when she ,arrived him and she has taken advantage of him in a big way. Sounds like they fancy themselves as Hollywood moguls.....and expect to still have financial benefits from the U.K. as well as their titles. I hope Meghan’s title is the first one to be yanked.

When did Meghan leave her baby for weeks at a time to find herself? She and Harry and the baby have been on a six week break in Canada together. She and Harry returned to England three days ago on Tuesday to make their annouincement and left the baby in Canada with her best friend. Meghan has already returned to Canada. So she left her child somewhere between 2-3 days. We are all entitled to our opinions but facts are stubborn things.

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esmerelda — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 21:45:17 GMT

Harry is not the first man, nor will he be the last, who has an older brother who will be king. No pass from me about his feeling "less than" or the mental illness or he lost his mother. He's not the first person who can claim those things.

Maybe he needs to read a little history.