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White Collar Criminal Guidelines

Johnnyeager — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 14:54:19 GMT

We know that a number of white collar criminals have hired Prison Consultants to provide advice on how to get by in jail. Madoff, Martha Stewart and Teresa Giudice have hired them. This relatively new business can bring in six figures per client. Apparently, both Felicity and Lori, among others involved in Operation Varsity Blues, have hired these former white collar felons for guidance.

If any of us ends up there here are some basic rules.

Some of the advice seems like common sense, similar to how one should operate on the outside, but the consequences for violations inside could be severe.

Show Humility, Don't Accept Special Treatment: staff and guards may often show sympathy and extra attention to stars, but other inmates can become resentful leading to physical conflicts. Others could resent your wealth or status. If someone starts trouble, don't engage.

Avoid Drama and Show Respect: Take your turn, don't cut lines. Don't reach over a food tray. Fingers get broken that way.

Don't Complain or Talk About Your Case: No one wants to hear you whine and moan so just keep quiet.

Be Productive and Work: Do whatever task is presented. It passes the time, occupies your mind and good behavior may get your sentence reduced.

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RetRN — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 14:58:51 GMT

How nice that the rich and famous can afford to hire a prison consultant. The rest of us have to rely on our common sense.

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sunshine45 — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 15:01:23 GMT

@RetRN wrote:
How nice that the rich and famous can afford to hire a prison consultant. The rest of us have to rely on our common sense.

i am hoping that "the rest of us here" dont have to worry about something like this at all. . bottom line is......stay out of trouble, dont think you can get away with something, and you wont go to jail.

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kitcat51 — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 15:04:52 GMT

* Don't Worry, You're Special...You bought your way into trouble, you can buy your way out.

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Kardi — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 15:22:07 GMT

@kitcat51 wrote:
* Don't Worry, You're Special...You bought your way into trouble, you can buy your way out.

Truer words were never spoken. 🤑

Re: White Collar Criminal Guidelines

vsm — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 16:39:27 GMT

@Johnnyeager wrote:
We know that a number of white collar criminals have hired Prison Consultants to provide advice on how to get by in jail. Madoff, Martha Stewart and Teresa Giudice have hired them. This relatively new business can bring in six figures per client. Apparently, both Felicity and Lori, among others involved in Operation Varsity Blues, have hired these former white collar felons for guidance.

If any of us ends up there here are some basic rules.

Some of the advice seems like common sense, similar to how one should operate on the outside, but the consequences for violations inside could be severe.

Show Humility, Don't Accept Special Treatment: staff and guards may often show sympathy and extra attention to stars, but other inmates can become resentful leading to physical conflicts. Others could resent your wealth or status. If someone starts trouble, don't engage.

Avoid Drama and Show Respect: Take your turn, don't cut lines. Don't reach over a food tray. Fingers get broken that way.

Don't Complain or Talk About Your Case: No one wants to hear you whine and moan so just keep quiet.

Be Productive and Work: Do whatever task is presented. It passes the time, occupies your mind and good behavior may get your sentence reduced.

In other words, do everything you should have been doing before you decided to commit your crime.

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chrystaltree — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 20:11:01 GMT

They wealthy can buy anything. Even tutoring on how to survive in prison...LOL I don't care, as long as they GO to prison when they commit a crime. I really didn't bother reading your advice. I have no plans to commit an crimes any time soon...LOL

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Johnnyeager — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 21:11:54 GMT

I posted it because I thought it was humorous to pay for this type of guidance.

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teganslaw — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 21:28:45 GMT

@Johnnyeager wrote:
I posted it because I thought it was humorous to pay for this type of guidance.

It is funny; people paying big bucks to have common sense taught to them. Anyone should already know these things. Of course, if they did, they wouldn't have committed the crimes in the first place!

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GAQShopr53 — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 21:39:13 GMT

Well since they paid for their children to get into college why not pay for consultants to help them enter into the prison system...what a waste of money

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SilleeMee — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 22:03:49 GMT

@RetRN wrote:
How nice that the rich and famous can afford to hire a prison consultant. The rest of us have to rely on our common sense.

More like...

Go directly to jail, do not pass go and do not collect $200.

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GAQShopr53 — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 23:17:02 GMT

@SilleeMee wrote:
@RetRN wrote:
How nice that the rich and famous can afford to hire a prison consultant. The rest of us have to rely on our common sense.

More like...

Go directly to jail, do not pass go and do not collect $200.

LoLLLLLLL!!!!

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Cakers3 — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 23:19:53 GMT

My understanding about Martha Stewart-she was well liked by the inmates. In fact didn't they present her with a gift on the day she was released?

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cherry — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 23:24:01 GMT

They did, a hand made poncho. I think she also has helped in planning activities for the ladies to do while inside

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Cakers3 — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 23:28:18 GMT

@cherry wrote:
They did, a hand made poncho. I think she also has helped in planning activities for the ladies to do while inside

@cherry That was it-the poncho.

I know years later she felt it was a horrible experience but I think it was more about the lack of freedom (and probably the food!).

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wishmoon — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 23:29:57 GMT

Martha loves to teach, she'd just would have had a different kind of audience. I'm not bashing Martha Stewart in any way, it's the way she is and I think she did make the most of her stay in prison. When she was released, she gained friends and could hold her head high, not that Martha would do it any other way. She got to where she is many years ago in a man's world, I respect her.

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cherry — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 23:31:25 GMT

I might be wrong @Cakers3 but, I think she has kept in contact with the prison, as an advisor..She is on the board of many charities

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Cakers3 — Tue, 10 Sep 2019 23:37:55 GMT

@cherry wrote:
I might be wrong @Cakers3 but, I think she has kept in contact with the prision, as an advidsor..She is on the board of many charities

@cherry I know she was partnering this year with Canopy Growth based in Canada to develop cannabis products.

I don't know if the partnership is still on-going.

One thing about Martha-she sees opportunities in latest trends.

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Johnnyeager — Wed, 11 Sep 2019 00:21:31 GMT

And Martha has a lot of practical common sense.

Something some of these new potential prisoners seem to lack.

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lovesrecess — Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:35:36 GMT

How ridiculous that anyone would hire someone to tell them what should be common sense. I am sure some celebrities would hire a “prison consultant” but never follow advice such as not accept special favors, etc. Celebs are used to such treatment, but I would think going to prison would be the ultimate wake-up call to reality.