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Chicken made the list

Tyak — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 15:43:23 GMT

of foods that can cause cancer. White meat can cause a type of non hodgkins lymphoma, and prostate cancer in men. (Start happy dancing all you chickens and be quick because the next study out will say that chicken is good for us.)

Re: Chicken made the list

KingstonsMom — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 15:59:23 GMT

Now, the important 'facts' about this 'study':

"Eating chicken puts consumers at a higher risk of a rare form of blood cancer, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, as well as prostate cancer in men, according to researchers from Oxford University.

The research involved tracking 475,000 middle-aged Britons over a period of eight years between 2006 and 2014.

Their diets were analysed alongside the diseases and illnesses they suffered with.

Around 23,000 of them developed cancer.

'Poultry intake was positively associated with risk for malignant melanoma, prostate cancer and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma', according to the paper published in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health.

The research that was carried out was an 'association study'.

This means that it only shows the correlation between eating chicken and the certain types of cancers, rather than investigating the reasons why.

There are a number of factors that could cause this link.

It could mean that the meat itself contains a carcinogen but it could even come down to how the meat is cooked.

Up until now, chicken has been widely regarded as a healthy alternative to red meat.

Red meat is known to raise health risks including breast, prostate and colorectal cancer because of how the blood from the meat product is digested."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7440195/Oxford-University-scientists-claim-Britons-eat-poultry-risk-developing-cancer.html

Re: Chicken made the list

Vivian — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 16:02:29 GMT

I think living, eating, and breathing can be dangerous to your health. We’d better give up that lifestyle.

Re: Chicken made the list

Financialgrl — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 16:06:15 GMT

@Vivian wrote:
I think living, eating, and breathing can be dangerous to your health. We’d better give up that lifestyle.

Was just gonna say that.

Re: Chicken made the list

Sooner — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 16:12:13 GMT

I am very leery of the food/disease connection because I think it also must be some connection between the genes in certain populations and their health. We don't hear as much about that sort of thing as I would think there would be. Also, with so much food good/food bad back and forth, how can you believe anything about that?

Cancer has been around for thousands of years. So why isn't there more about who doesn't get it than who does? Maybe genetics play a larger role in this and factors other than food do too.

Re: Chicken made the list

Bri369 — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 16:24:45 GMT

I don't even pay attention to these studies anymore.

Re: Chicken made the list

Snowpuppy — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 16:27:01 GMT

Or maybe it's the hormones and antibiotic laden diets they're fed?

Re: Chicken made the list

Pook — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 16:58:38 GMT

Back in the early 80s when chicken was touted as the perfect food for good health a study came out supposedly showing it was cancer causing and pork came out as the other white meat. Dependinng on who is funding the research, that is how the results are skewed. One would have to stop eating everything if we listened to all those reports. Some are prone to panic every time they read or hear stuff like this.

Re: Chicken made the list

Bridgegal — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 16:59:30 GMT

I'm almost 73 and in great health. We're all going to die of something. I'm going to eat and drink what i want , within reason, and enjoy the time I have left.

I'm more concerned about the chickens and the life they have before the chopping block. I won't buy chicken if I'm not as certain as I can be that their little feet touched the ground and they ran around before the end. The thought of chickens cooped up so tightly that their feet never touch the ground is horrible to me.

Re: Chicken made the list

Sooner — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 17:05:40 GMT

Oddly enough, it's chicken and rice for lunch for us today! LOL!!!

Re: Chicken made the list

Imaoldhippie — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 17:23:57 GMT

If you believe every thing on the hit list we would never eat, wear any material, use products, live in any houses any where. All the cancer causing lists are scare tactics. Take it all with a grain of salt.

I remember in the early 60's when canberries were said to be cancer causing and when we were served our Thanksgiving and Christmas lunches in high school we were ask if we wanted the cranberry serving. Now days cranberries are supposed to be one of the safe and good for you foods.

I dont trust "their" lists at all.

Re: Chicken made the list

Nightowlz — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 17:28:42 GMT

@Snowpuppy wrote:
Or maybe it's the hormones and antibiotic laden diets they're fed?

@Snowpuppy

Along with the chemicals in the air & water.

We are making BBQ chicken breasts on the grill for dinner tonight.

Re: Chicken made the list

suzyQ3 — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 17:34:19 GMT

@KingstonsMom wrote:
Now, the important 'facts' about this 'study':

"Eating chicken puts consumers at a higher risk of a rare form of blood cancer, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, as well as prostate cancer in men, according to researchers from Oxford University.

The research involved tracking 475,000 middle-aged Britons over a period of eight years between 2006 and 2014.

Their diets were analysed alongside the diseases and illnesses they suffered with.

Around 23,000 of them developed cancer.

'Poultry intake was positively associated with risk for malignant melanoma, prostate cancer and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma', according to the paper published in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health.

The research that was carried out was an 'association study'.

This means that it only shows the correlation between eating chicken and the certain types of cancers, rather than investigating the reasons why.

There are a number of factors that could cause this link.
It could mean that the meat itself contains a carcinogen but it could even come down to how the meat is cooked.

Up until now, chicken has been widely regarded as a healthy alternative to red meat.
Red meat is known to raise health risks including breast, prostate and colorectal cancer because of how the blood from the meat product is digested."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7440195/Oxford-University-scientists-claim-Britons-eat-poultry-risk-developing-cancer.html

@KingstonsMom, thank you for the facts. It's a interesting study that I hope is the basis for more than just an "association study."

I'm not one to simply ignore all such scientific studies; I take, though, wait for more conclusive information.

Re: Chicken made the list

Still Raining — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 18:24:03 GMT

The the subjects were self-reporting food choices, than the data is very suspect.

Re: Chicken made the list

KingstonsMom — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 18:35:10 GMT

@suzyQ3

I totally agree, I'll wait for actual scientific studies, not 'associative studies'.

That doesn't prove whether or not the 23,000 out of 475,000 who ate chicken and got cancer, didn't have other factors affecting their likelihood of getting some type of cancer.

Re: Chicken made the list

suzyQ3 — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 18:45:25 GMT

@KingstonsMom wrote:
@suzyQ3

I totally agree, I'll wait for actual scientific studies, not 'associative studies'.

That doesn't prove whether or not the 23,000 out of 475,000 who ate chicken and got cancer, didn't have other factors affecting their likelihood of getting some type of cancer.

@KingstonsMom right. But I think that this study does in fact account for correlation. What it didn't account for, though, is exactly what caused that correlation -- in other words, is it something within the chicken itself, what might that be, or is it dependent upon how the chicken is cooked.

Re: Chicken made the list

novamc1 — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 19:12:35 GMT

@Sooner

.......so you're daring to eat chicken and rice? In one day? At the same time in one meal?

If so.......I can predict with absolute certainty that someday, YOU ARE GOING TO DIE!!

LOL!!

Re: Chicken made the list

willdob3 — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 19:51:23 GMT

@Tyak

It is all about the wording. Nothing in the study says that chicken causes cancer.

Who paid for the study? That is likely to be more telling. Maybe the beef or seafood or corn people?

Re: Chicken made the list

momtochloe — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 20:03:16 GMT

Sigh . . . how on earth could chicken cause cancer? Unless of course you include the processing that the US regularly throws in like blasting them with chlorine to the point that countries aren't interested in doing business with us (but of course we ourselves are still eating it) . . . again, sigh.

Re: Chicken made the list

deepwaterdotter — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 20:13:03 GMT

Could Arby's be trying to lure some of those chicken-sandwich-loving customers away from Popeye's?