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Learning correct English

jannabelle1 — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 00:51:09 GMT

When did people stop learning correct English? When did people start using the word "of" instead of "have". I see it all the time: "I should of...." or "I would of....". Is it important? I suppose in the scheme of things it isn't, but it stands out like a sore thumb to me. I suppose the contraction "would've" has now been translated into "would of". I expect to be beat up on this. That's okay.

Re: Learning correct English

Neversaynever3dogs — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 00:56:31 GMT

I won't beat you up, jannabelle..

I totally agree!

Perhaps " English as a first language" is no longer taught in school...

Re: Learning correct English

jellyBEAN — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 00:58:03 GMT

You've got a point. The figure of speech that bothers me is when people say, "These ones here...." These ones? For some reason that just grinds my grits.

Re: Learning correct English

Marp — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 00:58:09 GMT

As society becomes more and more casual so does speech and the written word.

We have already moved past text speak to substituting words with emojis. There is also the problem of autocorrect which can be a disaster unto itself.

Re: Learning correct English

twinsister — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 00:59:37 GMT

@jannabelle1 - I agree with you!! It does annoy me when I see "of" and not "have" and I see it often!

Re: Learning correct English

Mombo1 — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:07:31 GMT

@jannabelle1 wrote:
When did people stop learning correct English? When did people start using the word "of" instead of "have". I see it all the time: "I should of...." or "I would of....". Is it important? I suppose in the scheme of things it isn't, but it stands out like a sore thumb to me. I suppose the contraction "would've" has now been translated into "would of". I expect to be beat up on this. That's okay.

Thank You! I won’t beat you up. 😊 I am a retired teacher, so incorrect English is like fingernails on a chalkboard. I realize some things are regional...but English is English. It takes the same amount of effort to use it correctly as incorrectly.

I have a relative that always says “where was you?”..... It makes me crazy...

Re: Learning correct English

DJP — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:07:46 GMT

Using the word loose instead of lose. I see it everywhere.

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Love my grandkids — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:08:16 GMT

ITA with all of you. My son, DIL and grands all use correct English, I'm happy to say.

I heard of a tee shirt I'd love to have, which says:

I'm Mentally Correcting Your Grammar !

I'd buy it if I could find it!

Re: Learning correct English

Icegoddess — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:10:28 GMT

I sometimes find myself reading a sentence two (to, too) or three times before it makes sense to me because of bad English/bad spelling/etc. My pet peeve has even made it into commercials and newscasts, so I guess there's no going back. It's the use of the word "less" when the word "fewer" is more appropriate.

Re: Learning correct English

Carmie — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:16:47 GMT

I always see " she graduated college in 2011". Instead of she graduated FROM college. It is written and spoken this way everywhere. Say what?

He went out the door is another one...where did the "of" go?

Our language is always changing and evolving and eventually it will be so much different than it is now.

Just a short mention. My grandparents came from Italy in the early 1900's. All of their 11 children were born here and all were bi-lingual. Some of their grandchildren learned Italian too and it is spoken in our family.

Two years ago, a bunch of my cousins went back to Italy to see some family members who still lived there. They were so excited to be able to talk and practice their Italian with them. They were surprised when they had trouble understanding modern Italian. My cousins spoke the year 1900 Italian, whereas those in Italy have evolved with their language.

Re: Learning correct English

Anonymous032819 — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:18:01 GMT

I won't beat you up either o/p.

I think that either people are too lazy or not smart enough to learn the correct way.

Re: Learning correct English

Marp — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:18:03 GMT

@Love my grandkids wrote:
ITA with all of you. My son, DIL and grands all use correct English, I'm happy to say.

I heard of a tee shirt I'd love to have, which says:

I'm Mentally Correcting Your Grammar !

I'd buy it if I could find it!

@Love my grandkids If you will accept silently in place of mentally search on Amazon for B00CHRYGQI

Re: Learning correct English

september — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:18:31 GMT

@jannabelle1 I don’t think the instance you stated (could of vs. could have) is a new grammar problem. I’ve been hearing people say the phrase this way, since long before I saw the misusage on website chat boards.

I think there are always going to be people who make grammar mistakes. They are mistakes....nothing more, nothing less.

Re: Learning correct English

bmorechick — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:23:11 GMT

Well I am of the opinion that when the English language left the country across the big pond, it was never the same. We do not speak proper English in this country, I don’t care who you are. I’m no expert in linguistics but I think due to the many languages brought and spoken here, each region developed their own spin on English. I think that’s what makes America good, but I do think the only proper English is the Queens English. And that’s my two cents!

Re: Learning correct English

Carmie — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:28:18 GMT

I think people are trying to say could've, but when they write it they write "could of"

It is an incorrect spelling of a contraction. Saying could've is correct, same as could have.

Re: Learning correct English

Mombo1 — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:28:40 GMT

@Love my grandkids wrote:
ITA with all of you. My son, DIL and grands all use correct English, I'm happy to say.

I heard of a tee shirt I'd love to have, which says:

I'm Mentally Correcting Your Grammar !

I'd buy it if I could find it!

That is hilarious. I would buy it in a heartbeat.

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patbz — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:29:13 GMT

I was an English major, but even if I wasn't, the decline of proper grammar usage is appalling. DH and I have a pet peeve with talking heads on t.v. who don't even know when to use "me" versus "I". On this board my favorite peeve is the interchangeable use of "two, too, to" with no regard of appropriate context.

Re: Learning correct English

september — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:29:16 GMT

@bmorechick wrote:
Well I am of the opinion that when the English language left the country across the big pond, it was never the same. We do not speak proper English in this country, I don’t care who you are. I’m no expert in linguistics but I think due to the many languages brought and spoken here, each region developed their own spin on English. I think that’s what makes America good, but I do think the only proper English is the Queens English. And that’s my two cents!

Well... I think there are about 30 different dialects of the English language in the UK.

Which one do you think is the Queen’s English?

Re: Learning correct English

september — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:33:19 GMT

@patbz wrote:
I was an English major, but even if I wasn't, the decline of proper grammar usage is appalling. DH and I have a pet peeve with talking heads on t.v. who don't even know when to use "me" versus "I". On this board my favorite peeve is the interchangeable use of "two, too, to" with no regard of appropriate context.

True, but this was going on when I was in elementary school. Our teachers told us how these words were often confused and tried to make sure we didn’t make the same mistakes.

The only difference between then and now, is that now our mistakes are discussed on the internet. People made the same mistakes back before there was an internet.

Re: Learning correct English

Anonymous032819 — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 01:35:13 GMT

@Mombo1 wrote:
@Love my grandkids wrote:
ITA with all of you. My son, DIL and grands all use correct English, I'm happy to say.

I heard of a tee shirt I'd love to have, which says:

I'm Mentally Correcting Your Grammar !

I'd buy it if I could find it!
That is hilarious. I would buy it in a heartbeat.

I found this.

https://creizyfashion.com/im-silently-correcting-your-grammar-to0?msclkid=ad985fcf1f7713031627037cc065600f