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Score 1 for old-fashioned “values” cursive ✍️

LTT1 — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:04:56 GMT

At least here on the forum most have agreed that a return of SOME curriculum items that seem relegated to past eras should be returned to current.

Score! for some states that have decided to return these to the current curriculum!

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/education/texas-students-will-have-to-learn-cursive-again-starting-this-fall/269-b243d43a-403b-46eb-b8e4-7bb7b1249a69

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Sadiesadie — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:14:35 GMT

@LTT1 : When I was visiting our daughter and her family last month I was so impressed to see my 3rd grade granddaughter practicing her cursive writing. I was surprised to see how well she was doing. Thank goodness her school (maybe Colorado is on that list) is teaching their students cursive writing.

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ECBG — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:22:33 GMT

When will it be learned that"inovation for the sake of inovation" is useless?

Cursive writing should have never been removed.

Remember the war over the removal of phonics???

Remove: Score 1 for old-fashioned “values” cursive ✍️

ECBG — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:23:01 GMT

When will it be learned that"inovation for the sake of inovation" is useless?

Cursive writing should have never been removed.

Remember the war over the removal of phonics???

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TexasMom1 — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:28:30 GMT

I heartily agree with bringing cursive back to the school curriculum! Texas is my state and I could not be prouder!

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LTT1 — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:31:03 GMT

@ECBG

IMO, there is no other way than phonics!👀
I taught DD by the phonics method when I visited her K class showing pictures of that dumb ... DUMB! Whole Language Method of learning to read!

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LTT1 — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:31:51 GMT

Found this too...@ECBG

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Johnnyeager — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:33:12 GMT

I've read several other articles about this, and there are parents who are opposed to it.

They contend that their children type everything on devices and will never use or need this skill and want the time spent on other areas of instruction.

It's true that you can't please everyone!

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SilleeMee — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:39:31 GMT

Imo, cursive writing is like the abacus...it's outdated and has no functional purpose any more.

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proudlyfromNJ — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:40:13 GMT

@LTT1 wrote:

Found this too...@ECBG

This is up to the parents not the school.

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Ms tyrion2 — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:43:18 GMT

@ECBG wrote:
When will it be learned that"inovation for the sake of inovation" is useless?

Cursive writing should have never been removed.

Remember the war over the removal of phonics???

I think spelling and grammar should take precedence over cursive if a choice had to be made.

Cursive writing is a nice skill to have and could easily be taught by parents if they felt it was important.

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CinNC — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:44:25 GMT

@LTT1 - I was just wishing this morning that there was a sewing class on basic alterations - I have a few pair of slacks that need to be taken in, sometimes would like to hem some curtains etc....if I knew how to do this stuff, I would probably purchase a sewing machine again.

My 81 year old neighbor just mentioned how she had to help her grandson w/a research paper - senior in college - some of his resources were items in cursive and he couldn't read them.

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Caaareful Shopper — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:48:45 GMT

I'm probably reading too much into the values portion. I do not equate old fashioned values with learning cursive. What does one's values have to do with cursive writing?

However, I do strongly agree we should always be taught cursive writing, as a necessity, even if not a daily requirement of life. I've seen some attempts at cursive signatures that are completely unintelligible.

Similarly, everyone should have to learn simple math, and not always rely on math via computers and calculators. I cannot tell you the amount of times I have been in stores and the computerized cash register has frozen or malfunctioned. The cashier cannot give me change for a $27.67 receipt from the $40 (two twenties) I hand over. They stand there mesmerized, and finally call a manger for help, all the while trying to do the math out loud.

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Johnnyeager — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:49:22 GMT

I think that it makes excellent sense for a mandatory, Basic Financial Literacy course at some point in a student's education. Most states still don't have this requirement.

And haven't schools taught many of these life skills already in Health Class, Shop, Home Economics?

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Bri369 — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:00:42 GMT

Cursive isn't really a "value" It's a skill.

I do think kids should be taught cursive. It may seem outdated and not needed, but I think it's important.

I do think spelling and grammar and writing skills should be taught.

There's only so much time in the day. I know schools have to fit everything in, and cursive is not high up on the list of priorities.

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Krimpette — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:02:08 GMT

Without the ability to at least READ cursive, if not also write it, how are future generations going to read old letters, documents, etc. that are all hand written. And can all postal workers still read cursive? Thousands (at least) still send cards and letters, all in cursive.

I have received thank you notes from tweeners, and am amazed at how poorly they are written. I'm appreciative of receiving them, but am embarrassed for them that they were never taught cursive, formatting, etc.

Can you tell I'm old????

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dex — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:05:01 GMT

My son was part of that experiment to learn without phonics.He was able to memorize so many words that it wasn’t until the fourth grade that his teacher discovered he actually couldn’t read....so very thankful for that teacher.

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Financialgrl — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:07:05 GMT

@Johnnyeager wrote:
I think that it makes excellent sense for a mandatory, Basic Financial Literacy course at some point in a student's education. Most states still don't have this requirement.

And haven't schools taught many of these life skills already in Health Class, Shop, Home Economics?

I haven't worked at schools for about 19 years but when I did, Shop and Home Ec were no longer taught as a comprehensive course. Instead they separated them out as courses you could think of taking more as a career. The high schools all have specialties they teach and if you want to take those - all those classes are your last class of the day and you travel to another school to take those. For example - one HS teaches Culinary Arts and it's all learning to cook/make food, there is Auto Repair and Collision Repair at that same school, cosmetology at another school, nursing, etc.

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missy1 — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:10:02 GMT

The schools here, have always taught cursive starting in 2nd/3rd grade.

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Sadiesadie — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:16:57 GMT

@Johnnyeager : @LTT1 : @SilleeMee : OMG, that daughter I mentioned is a high school teacher and she had a young man come to her asking if she would help him learn to write, especially his name.