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WW (Weight Watchers)

Winkk — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 13:19:53 GMT

WW doesn't seem to be doing well on Wall Street.

New York (CNN Business)Oprah Winfrey famously proclaimed "I love bread!" in a Weight Watchers commercial three years ago. But carbs aren't cutting it for the company anymore.

Shares of WW (WTW) — Weight Watchers' new name — closed down 34% on Wednesday after the company shocked Wall Street with poor earnings and sales.

CEO Mindy Grossman attributed the problem to the keto diet, a popular eating regimen that makes bread and other carbs taboo. She said during a call with analysts Tuesday that keto is "becoming a cultural mean," and she even called it a "keto surge."

Wall Street is clearly nervous, too.

Does anyone follow the keto diet?

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

sidsmom — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 13:25:39 GMT

Just give it 5-12 months.

All the ‘keto’ fad people will regain all the weight they lost because

it’s totally unsustainable....and will be back to Weight Watchers.

It’s all very cyclical.

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

I am still oxox — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 13:26:53 GMT

@Winkk

Keto and Atkins fall into the same genre of exclusion diets you exclude carbs while WW is about moderation rather than exclusion

@Winkk wrote:
WW doesn't seem to be doing well on Wall Street.

New York (CNN Business)Oprah Winfrey famously proclaimed "I love bread!" in a Weight Watchers commercial three years ago. But carbs aren't cutting it for the company anymore.
Shares of WW (WTW) — Weight Watchers' new name — closed down 34% on Wednesday after the company shocked Wall Street with poor earnings and sales.
CEO Mindy Grossman attributed the problem to the keto diet, a popular eating regimen that makes bread and other carbs taboo. She said during a call with analysts Tuesday that keto is "becoming a cultural mean," and she even called it a "keto surge."
Wall Street is clearly nervous, too.

Does anyone follow the keto diet?

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

Winkk — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 13:31:25 GMT

@I am still oxox wrote:
@Winkk

Keto and Atkins fall into the same genre of exclusion diets you exclude carbs while WW is about moderation rather than exclusion

@Winkk wrote:
WW doesn't seem to be doing well on Wall Street.

New York (CNN Business)Oprah Winfrey famously proclaimed "I love bread!" in a Weight Watchers commercial three years ago. But carbs aren't cutting it for the company anymore.
Shares of WW (WTW) — Weight Watchers' new name — closed down 34% on Wednesday after the company shocked Wall Street with poor earnings and sales.
CEO Mindy Grossman attributed the problem to the keto diet, a popular eating regimen that makes bread and other carbs taboo. She said during a call with analysts Tuesday that keto is "becoming a cultural mean," and she even called it a "keto surge."
Wall Street is clearly nervous, too.

Does anyone follow the keto diet?

I agree @I am still oxox. I prefer moderation. My daughter has used WW in the past and over two years has lost 100 pounds.

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

hopi — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 13:40:09 GMT

Any diet works if you stay on it.

Keto is another diet that has been around for years and years with a new name it is unpractical for a lifetime but people always look for a quick fix.

Honesly the new WW is a moderation lifestyle, lifetime sustainable program that is very healthy.

Wall street is full of BS and really should not be looked at as a goal for health, so many people take their lives when things go south with that awful framework.

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

Sooner — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:48:37 GMT

Weight Watchers has helped a lot of people, but not helped a lot too. It is about $$$$$$. It is a business.

Maybe Oprah is killing it?

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I am still oxox — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:52:51 GMT

@Sooner

I go to a WW center weekly, there arae no photos of Orprah and he name is never mentioned

@Sooner wrote:
Weight Watchers has helped a lot of people, but not helped a lot too. It is about $$$$$$. It is a business.

Maybe Oprah is killing it?

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

PilatesLover — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:58:43 GMT

I'm a loyal Weight Watcher, it's the only program that has worked for me after a lifetime of yo yo dieting and ridiculous fad diets.

However, I thought the whole renaming to WW / Wellness Wins was ridiculous and a dangerous gamble. And what do we talk about in my meetings anyway? Tracking, weight loss success, stumbling blocks, activity -- nothing has changed. It was a dumb marketing gimmick.

As for Keto - I know a lot of people who are losing tons of weight - some to the point I think they look unhealthy now. Some of them have found it helped their IBS. But, I don't think it's sustainable. I don't think it's healthy either, but that's just my opinion. One girl I know is practically living on seasoned ground meat.

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

Sooner — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 15:18:17 GMT

Keto, or whatever it is, has always worked well for me. If you manage it with some sense and get all the nutrition you need it's great. At least for some of us.

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esmerelda — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 15:35:02 GMT

I've been advised by my doctor that keto is not for me. I think she mentioned age (???) but I don't mind because I'm not interested in doing...let's call it the formal program. I think cutting out "the white stuff" and eating less meat and more veggies makes more sense.

I "did" low carb long ago and it worked. However, I found that while bread didn't mean much to me before Atkins, after it I really, really, REALLY loved bread!

I think WW is the best plan for life. It's just reasonable eating. You can truly have anything...just be reasonable (and accountable) for it.

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

maryooch — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 15:35:10 GMT

WW has changed in my area. I joined in May, 2016 and in six months I lost 24 lbs. I was very happy and the diet was easy to do and I maintained my loss for two years. I am a stress eater and went through last year and gained back some of my weight so I rejoined in October, 2018.

The Point system had changed a bit so not exacxtly what I was used to. WW now relies mostly on their "App" and all the info is on that. I received no new books explaining the new point system and I stayed until the end of the meeting to obtain the new info. I was told by the instructer that everything was on the App. She told me there was classes to learn how to use it but they were all on Saturdays and I work part-time and work most Saturdays. Anyway, I was not successful the second time around because I was very confused. I quit in a couple of months.

If anyone else has had my experience I can understand why their stock is down.

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

esmerelda — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 15:38:51 GMT

@maryoochSorry you had such a bad experience this last time around. Is there another meeting near you? You can search online at the WW site. A different leader might be more accommodating.

If not, you lost weight on an earlier version of the program. Do what you know...follow the earlier program. You have the tools.

Good luck!

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

noodleann — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 15:51:09 GMT

WW may be taking a hit because of the easy-to-use apps out there that are either free or much less expensive and so much more convenient. I had joined My Fitness Pal but stopped using it when the website was hacked twice. I've recently joined LoseIt! and am liking it and will probably upgrade to the annual plan for $40 a year because of the depth of pay-for features.

Here's an article on a study of online food logging and how it correlates with success at weight loss. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/909609

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

sunshine 919 — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 15:52:50 GMT

@Winkk wrote:
@I am still oxox wrote:
@Winkk

Keto and Atkins fall into the same genre of exclusion diets you exclude carbs while WW is about moderation rather than exclusion

@Winkk wrote:
WW doesn't seem to be doing well on Wall Street.

New York (CNN Business)Oprah Winfrey famously proclaimed "I love bread!" in a Weight Watchers commercial three years ago. But carbs aren't cutting it for the company anymore.
Shares of WW (WTW) — Weight Watchers' new name — closed down 34% on Wednesday after the company shocked Wall Street with poor earnings and sales.
CEO Mindy Grossman attributed the problem to the keto diet, a popular eating regimen that makes bread and other carbs taboo. She said during a call with analysts Tuesday that keto is "becoming a cultural mean," and she even called it a "keto surge."
Wall Street is clearly nervous, too.

Does anyone follow the keto diet?

I agree @I am still oxox. I prefer moderation. My daughter has used WW in the past and over two years has lost 100 pounds.

I totally love weight watchers. I took 30 lbs off and kept it off for years. I am ready to start again lol. I have become less active and eat more lol. So I will start back. I love the meetings and the weigh ins. It works for me. Ladies at meetings are always so nice and kind and I look forward to weigh ins. It keeps me on track. I am very social so the meetings are good for me.

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

esmerelda — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 15:57:17 GMT

@noodleann wrote:
WW may be taking a hit because of the easy-to-use apps out there that are either free or much less expensive and so much more convenient. I had joined My Fitness Pal but stopped using it when the website was hacked twice. I've recently joined LoseIt! and am liking it and will probably upgrade to the annual plan for $40 a year because of the depth of pay-for features.

Here's an article on a study of online food logging and how it correlates with success at weight loss. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/909609

@noodleannI agree the online apps may be cuttng into WW. I've got the Lose It! app. I don't use it much lately...I don't use anything much lately. LOL! But I think it's probably as good as WW without the (inconvenience and cost of the) meetings. And their gentle reminders (to track, weigh), are nice.

Thanks for the reminder. I may start using it again today.

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

JJsMom — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 15:58:58 GMT

Keto is just another low carb fad diet. Most will likely put the weight back on. I have never known anyone who kept weight off long-term by following a fad diet. Most fit/healthy people I know work out and eat things in moderation.

I guess if you need it to stay on track, then fine, but I would be miserable.

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

maryooch — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 16:10:05 GMT

Thank you @esmerelda for your response. No there is no other choice of meetings as far as WW and I do have the tools and try to do it on my own, but there is something about going to the meeting and being held accountable and hearing ideas from other people etc. I am going to try on my own but I think it is not a wise business decision for WW to rely just on the App and not offer options. I am computer literate and understand Apps but the point system had changed and looking everything up on an App and having to keep track on the App just was not my thing.

You are right, I was not impressed with the instructor and she was not very helpful. However, I will find a way to take this weight off. As I tell my granddaughter "there is always a way"! (quote from Dory in Finding Nemo).

Thanks again!

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

haddon9 — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 16:10:56 GMT

I don't think keto is a fad diet. People use it for reasons other than to lose weight and it's been around for a long time.

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Venezia — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 16:21:03 GMT

I didn't know that Weight Watchers had been renamed to Wellness Wins. Is that true? Crazy, as people will always call it Weight Watchers.

As for Mindy Grossman being in charge...no wonder the stock is plummeting. I was less than impressed, when she was in charge of HSN. She couldn't even be bothered to have one of her staff reply to or acknowledge receipt of a certified letter. She'll be on to the next company soon, I'm sure.

Re: WW (Weight Watchers)

PilatesLover — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 16:24:44 GMT

@Venezia wrote:
I didn't know that Weight Watchers had been renamed to Wellness Wins. Is that true? Crazy, as people will always call it Weight Watchers.

As for Mindy Grossman being in charge...no wonder the stock is plummeting. I was less than impressed, when she was in charge of HSN. She couldn't even be bothered to have one of her staff reply to or acknowledge receipt of a certified letter. She'll be on to the next company soon, I'm sure.

Yes, the official name is WW and it stands for Wellness Wins.