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Looks like Ring doorbell let employees look at customers encypted videos

Nataliesgramma — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 14:03:54 GMT

I am glad I didn't buy one..

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/ring-let-employees-watch-customer-videos-claim-reports/ar-BBS5cyv?ocid=AMZN#page=2

Re: Looks like Ring doorbell let employees look at customers encypted videos

DJs mom — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 14:12:09 GMT

If they want to watch cars ride past my house and look at my packages being delivered, have at it. I love my Ring doorbell, one of my best purchases of 2018.

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freakygirl — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 14:12:57 GMT

thanx for posting that. my husband has been wanting to buy one.

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Mj12 — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 14:15:06 GMT

From that article:

"A Ring representative told The Intercept that the only videos employees view and annotate are those made public through Ring’s community watch app, Neighbors." (apparently to train the software's object recognition)

and

"Although it doesn’t appear anything nefarious has occurred..."

Re: Looks like Ring doorbell let employees look at customers encypted videos

Nataliesgramma — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 14:21:10 GMT

@Mj12 wrote:
From that article:

"A Ring representative told The Intercept that the only videos employees view and annotate are those made public through Ring’s community watch app, Neighbors." (apparently to train the software's object recognition)

and

"Although it doesn’t appear anything nefarious has occurred..."

I don't believe that. I once saw employees laughing at customers photographs back in the day when you had them developed and when I reported it...the manager said "their employees don't do that".....

They aren't going to admit it and hurt sales......

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ValuSkr — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 15:06:56 GMT

Thanks for the info. I think a security camera, like Nest, will suffice for now. Maybe David will address the concern the next time he presents Ring.

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NicksmomESQ — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 15:19:48 GMT

JMO but the advent of technology has invaded our privacy. Yes,in some ways it’s made us safer.But It’s gone too far.

I was in a local store yesterday,on line waiting to pay for a pair of leggings.The lady in front of me noticed a monitor into the dressing room on a shelf under the register.She questioned it & was told that they needed it to avoid theft.”So you were watching me while I was changing?” The answer was “yes”. The three of us on line left our items at the register & left!!

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SeaMaiden — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 15:29:40 GMT

@NicksmomESQ wrote:
JMO but the advent of technology has invaded our privacy. Yes,in some ways it’s made us safer.But It’s gone too far.
I was in a local store yesterday,on line waiting to pay for a pair of leggings.The lady in front of me noticed a monitor into the dressing room on a shelf under the register.She questioned it & was told that they needed it to avoid theft.”So you were watching me while I was changing?” The answer was “yes”. The three of us on line left our items at the register & left!!

This is why I no longer shop in stores for clothes if I need to try them on. I think that they have all kinds of monitors on you..... it creeps me out!

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silkyk — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 15:30:49 GMT

I remember reading a story in the paper a few years back that reported that a guy who worked security at a big store was having a poker party and showing movies of women trying on clothes in the store's dressing room. Big ha ha till one of the guys at the poker party recognized HIS wife. Then not so funny and as I recall the poker game ended rather quickly. Ever since I read that I never try on clothing in any store. Try at home and return if necessary. I refuse to be "entertainment" for perves. So check out those "dressing" rooms for peepers!

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Icegoddess — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:02:16 GMT

@DJs mom wrote:
If they want to watch cars ride past my house and look at my packages being delivered, have at it. I love my Ring doorbell, one of my best purchases of 2018.

@DJs mom, I agree. All they're going to see is the garbage truck driving by, a delivery person, and a squirrel chewing holes in our grill cover. But, I won't allow an Alexa, Echo, or any personal assistant device in my home. It's bad enough that our phones and TVs are listening in on us. I always tell my TV goodnight in Russian just in case the CIA is listening in.

I understand the need to stop theft, but I do think it's going too far with cameras in dressing rooms. I do need to try on clothes before I buy, so I look around for cameras, but they are so small now you never know.

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Mj12 — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:04:27 GMT

@NicksmomESQ wrote:
JMO but the advent of technology has invaded our privacy. Yes,in some ways it’s made us safer.But It’s gone too far.
I was in a local store yesterday,on line waiting to pay for a pair of leggings.The lady in front of me noticed a monitor into the dressing room on a shelf under the register.She questioned it & was told that they needed it to avoid theft.”So you were watching me while I was changing?” The answer was “yes”. The three of us on line left our items at the register & left!!

I was surprised to learn that many states have laws to permit cameras in dressing rooms. Only 13 states prohibit it: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Delaware, Georgia, Hawaii, Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, South Dakota and Utah.

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missy1 — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:08:02 GMT

I don't need one.

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Icegoddess — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:17:08 GMT

@Mj12 wrote:
@NicksmomESQ wrote:
JMO but the advent of technology has invaded our privacy. Yes,in some ways it’s made us safer.But It’s gone too far.
I was in a local store yesterday,on line waiting to pay for a pair of leggings.The lady in front of me noticed a monitor into the dressing room on a shelf under the register.She questioned it & was told that they needed it to avoid theft.”So you were watching me while I was changing?” The answer was “yes”. The three of us on line left our items at the register & left!!

I was surprised to learn that many states have laws to permit cameras in dressing rooms. Only 13 states prohibit it: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Delaware, Georgia, Hawaii, Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, South Dakota and Utah.

@Mj12, thanks. Makes me feel better since I live in one of those states.

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Marp — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:32:45 GMT

@ValuSkr wrote:
Thanks for the info. I think a security camera, like Nest, will suffice for now. Maybe David will address the concern the next time he presents Ring.

@ValuSkr, how do you think Nest, Arlo and the plethora of other wifi dependent cameras work? The video is livestreamed to the cloud just as the Ring doorbell, floodlight and other products are.

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ValuSkr — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:54:48 GMT

@Marp wrote:
@ValuSkr wrote:
Thanks for the info. I think a security camera, like Nest, will suffice for now. Maybe David will address the concern the next time he presents Ring.
@ValuSkr, how do you think Nest, Arlo and the plethora of other wifi dependent cameras work? The video is livestreamed to the cloud just as the Ring doorbell, floodlight and other products are.

@Marp Yes, of course, they all work in a similar fashion. But no one's claimed yet that employees of the other firms review your videos.

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Carmie — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:09:34 GMT

I don't have or use Ring, but I thought that you had to pay a extra fee monthly to have your videos stored for viewing long term.

I would guess that only the people who pay for the storage would have had the possibility of having their videos shared and viewed???

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chrystaltree — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:24:57 GMT

I don't have one but I wouldn't care of they looked at people coming in and out of my front door or the cars driving by.

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staciesmom — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:38:14 GMT

@DJs mom wrote:
If they want to watch cars ride past my house and look at my packages being delivered, have at it. I love my Ring doorbell, one of my best purchases of 2018.

ITA - what is there to see? Much ado about nothing. We love our Ring doorbell!

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Lipstickdiva — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:52:34 GMT

I think some of you are missing the point by saying who cares, what are they seeing anyhow. The fact of the matter is, they ARE seeing it at all, no matter how lame it might be.

@NicksmomESQ, I used to work in a drugstore. Of course we all looked through peoples' photos when they came in from developing. That manager that told you that doesn't happen probably did too.

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Montana — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:52:46 GMT

I feel if anybody is watching your premises, it must be for a reason. Otherwise, why would they do it? People don’t usually invest their time for no reason.