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Hormones in chicken and meat products

novamc1 — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 19:27:51 GMT

After seeing a label on a chicken product that I used in cooking dinner last night, saying it was "hormone-free".plus free of nitrates and other bad stuff........it seemed some education was needed about this subject.

Anyone can find a wealth of info online about government rules for raising livestock without hormones. But just in case we didn't know this before, here is one bit of info.......

<<Fact: Federal law prohibits the use of hormones in poultry production. Polling data showed that many consumers were confused about when hormones were used in livestock and poultry production and about their safety.>>

Re: Hormones in chicken and meat products

Nightowlz — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 19:35:22 GMT

Yes I know that but a lot of people don't. They list stuff like no hormones, no antibiotics ever to get people to buy it not knowing it's against the law to use hormones in poultry.

Even the poultry that says no antibiotics there are. Those chickens are eating the same place the chickens are that do get the antibiotics from feed. They are suppose to go thru a 7-14 withdrawal period before processing.

Re: Hormones in chicken and meat products

Laura14 — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 19:37:01 GMT

I'm pretty sure they also need to put on there that it is against the law to use hormones in addition to hormone free labels so you in essence know it's nonsense. I want to say Dr. Oz did a segment on this.

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this is my nic — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 20:20:12 GMT

Some of the labeling I've seen is humorous, such as a dairy product stating "contains NO GLUTEN"! Duh!

Re: Hormones in chicken and meat products

Nightowlz — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 20:22:52 GMT

@Laura14 wrote:
I'm pretty sure they also need to put on there that it is against the law to use hormones in addition to hormone free labels so you in essence know it's nonsense. I want to say Dr. Oz did a segment on this.

@Laura14

Any hormone-free label on pork and poultry products is intended to mislead shoppers into thinking that the product is worthy of a higher price. The USDA requires that these labels on pork or poultry include a disclaimer: “Federal regulations prohibit the use of hormones in poultry/pork.”

Re: Hormones in chicken and meat products

sidsmom — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 20:30:34 GMT

What many don’t realize, animals produce naturally

occurring hormones which are detrimental to our health.

Funny to see the Public spending more $$ on

free-range, unicorn eggs/dairy/meat when the most

natural animal product/byproduct has hormones

we shouldn’t be consuming anyway.

Re: Hormones in chicken and meat products

fthunt — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 20:42:41 GMT

It's gotta be hormones! Have you noticed how tall some of these 25 to 35 year old - and especially high school age boys are? Wish the industry had put a handful of those in my meat when I was developing! I'm not petite..... but would appreciate another 4 inches!

Re: Hormones in chicken and meat products

Laura14 — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 20:42:44 GMT

That's what I thought I remembered @Nightowlz. Thanks for confirming.

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Laura14 — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 20:45:01 GMT

@sidsmom Actually some of those hormones are used in human prescription drugs like thyroid medications and insulin. We're not that much different believe it or not.

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novamc1 — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:13:56 GMT

@Laura14

Human bodies cannot possibly contain zero amounts of substances common in animals, because humans are omnivores who since creation have survived by consuming both animal and plant types of food.

Apparently we need what those foods provide, or we wouldn't be living as long as we do.

Increasing lifespans might not be entirely due to advanced medical science.

Re: Hormones in chicken and meat products

sidsmom — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:02:26 GMT

@Laura14 wrote:
@sidsmom Actually some of those hormones are used in human prescription drugs like thyroid medications and insulin. We're not that much different believe it or not.

I realize that. I had a cat who needed insulin &

I’m aware of Armour thyroid medication...but that doesn’t

mean we should be eating their muscles & byproducts

in the quantities Humans do...it’s not healthy..and the statistics

are showing that to be true.

Re: Hormones in chicken and meat products

novamc1 — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:16:46 GMT

@sidsmom

about your comment:

<<but that doesn’t mean we should be eating their muscles & byproducts

in the quantities Humans do...it’s not healthy..and the statistics

are showing that to be true. >

Can you provide more info about these statistics, or at least provide a credible source for the info?

Re: Hormones in chicken and meat products

Laura14 — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:35:46 GMT

@novamc1 I agree. We're made to eat each other just like bugs and vultures do when we die.

I did not mean to hijack your thread. @sidsmom and I have already made it quite clear to each other in another thread that we disagree on health and wellness issues which is what makes a world.

I just don't want anyone thinking that meat is dangerous to consume because of the naturally occuring hormones in similar biological creatures. The reality is some of our most popular maintenance medications come from animals and their hormones as replacements for ours when they fail to be produced anymore.

So have that burger if you so desire.

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dex — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:21:10 GMT

@sidsmom@I admire your very strong convictions and beliefs on this topic.That is good.

You feel that you are making the best choices you can for your health and evironment.I appreciate your enthusiasm and I enjoy reading updated information that you often provide.But the fact remains...we are all at this point free to decide for ourselves how to best to look after our own nutritional choices.

Re: Hormones in chicken and meat products

novamc1 — Fri, 12 Oct 2018 16:19:19 GMT

@Laura14

I've had discussions in years gone by on similar topics.

Would love to be convinced that opposing points of view on nutrition can mesh and work for everyone, but so far, this has not happened

Seriously would love to see the "statistics" mentioned in an earlier post, because I have studied nutrition since the early 1970s and would love new and verifiable information on a topic that too often looks like "junk science" or just opinion, or just some sort of commercial product promotion.

Re: Hormones in chicken and meat products

CatsyCline — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:28:54 GMT

rbGH - Got Milk?

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Laura14 — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:38:45 GMT

@novamc1 I tried to learn too but the basic solid info of what actually was in question and what legitiimately causes it weren't being acknowledged and I can't deal in science fiction.

But, to each their own. One day when we're all dead, someone will truly know it all.

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Sooner — Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:46:19 GMT

@fthunt wrote:
It's gotta be hormones! Have you noticed how tall some of these 25 to 35 year old - and especially high school age boys are? Wish the industry had put a handful of those in my meat when I was developing! I'm not petite..... but would appreciate another 4 inches!

@fthunt I don't know what it is, but yes they are gigantic, especially the girls that are college age now. Whatever it is, it has to be in the last 20 years, not going back much beyond that.

Soy? Could that be it? I agree something has caused this. I have noticed it for 2 or 3 years and remarked many times to my husband about it.

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Sooner — Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:50:11 GMT

@sidsmom wrote:
@Laura14 wrote:
@sidsmom Actually some of those hormones are used in human prescription drugs like thyroid medications and insulin. We're not that much different believe it or not.
I realize that. I had a cat who needed insulin &
I’m aware of Armour thyroid medication...but that doesn’t
mean we should be eating their muscles & byproducts
in the quantities Humans do...it’s not healthy..and the statistics
are showing that to be true.

My father and mother, aunt, and one grandmother lived to 94 and beyond and ALL consumed a lot of meat (we raised cattle) and poultry (my grandmother had scads of chickens and ate the beef as well).

So no, I'm not at all convinced that good lean meat and poultry harmful to human health. I have seen too many old folks in my city who are living proof it isn't so.

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Beauty$Junkie — Thu, 18 Oct 2018 13:42:16 GMT

@sidsmomSince going plant based, I am happy not to have to worry about this issue.