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Cristobal Colon

traveler — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:18:05 GMT

His name was in some of our NM textbooks. He is Christopher Columbus in Spanish.

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dex — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:25:26 GMT

@traveler@I hate to admit I clicked on this thinking it was a health problem

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OKPrincess — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:33:51 GMT

Same here. I didn’t know what it was either.

I hope all the past and present teachers on these forums don’t give us a bad mark for this boo boo.

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SeaMaiden — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:39:52 GMT

@dex wrote:
@traveler@I hate to admit I clicked on this thinking it was a health problem

I clicked on wondering "what the blank is this about"😆

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Mominohio — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:42:40 GMT

Ha! I guess I'm the only one so far that had four years of Spanish in high school and four quarter in college.

I knew his 'real name' right off.

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dex — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:42:52 GMT

@SeaMaiden me too.I thought with all of the colonoscopy threads maybe someone got a diagnosis that I should explore...just never know who could be hit with the Cistobal Colon.

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ROMARY — Tue, 09 Oct 2018 00:18:52 GMT

Looking back, when I was in Europe in the 70's or so, there were many statues scattered around Europe with a name similar to this. At the time, I didn't know who, but after asking someone there, I was surprised to learn that their name was 'different'. Or shall I say that our CC name is different.

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SeaMaiden — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:45:44 GMT

@dex wrote:
@SeaMaiden me too.I thought with all of the colonoscopy threads maybe someone got a diagnosis that I should explore...just never know who could be hit with the Cistobal Colon.

@dex My first thought was maybe it was a new form of colon disease ....

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Ruby Laine — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:48:36 GMT

Cristobal was one of the names my DD and her hubby, who is from Central America, were thinking of for my grandson! He ended up with a very American sounding name.

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bathina — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:48:54 GMT

We're celebrating Indigenous People day here. CC was not a nice man to those he encountered in the new world.

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Laura14 — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 20:02:49 GMT

I have no issue with CC. I think it is ridiculous to judge a 15th century man by 21st century standards some of which are no better 6 centuries later in how we treat one another today.

Most important for me, it is Italian American heritage day so I am actually celebrating myself and all of my fellow Paisans too. Ciao gente!

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Cakers3 — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 20:20:16 GMT

@dex wrote:
@traveler@I hate to admit I clicked on this thinking it was a health problem

@dex OMG I just spit out my coffee!!! LMAO!

You owe me a new keyboard.

LOLOLOL

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SilleeMee — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 20:25:20 GMT

And we all know he did not 'discover' America at all. That part of history is wrong.

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Cakers3 — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 20:45:33 GMT

@traveler ???

Cristobal Colon is Spanish for him, not Christopher Columbus.

He was born in Italy as Cristoforo Colombo. Columbus is the Anglicized version of Colombo.

By all historical accounts this is the explanation for the variations.

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Cakers3 — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 20:31:09 GMT

btw: Colon, as part of the intestine, is "colon" in Spanish, Italian, French, Portuguese, Brazilian Portuguese, and American English. (I can't put in the accent marks).

In German it is Dickdarm.

I'm just sayin'.

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Mominohio — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 20:38:40 GMT

@Laura14 wrote:
I have no issue with CC. I think it is ridiculous to judge a 15th century man by 21st century standards some of which are no better 6 centuries later in how we treat one another today.

Most important for me, it is Italian American heritage day so I am actually celebrating myself and all of my fellow Paisans too. Ciao gente!

You kind of summed it up in a nutshell with your first paragraph.

But we have to be PC and hate anything that lead us to where we are today, rather than study it and learn from it.

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chrystaltree — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 20:39:33 GMT

It's true, the Americas were never lost so he didn't discover anything. That whole Columbus thing is just a fairytale, there's little to no truth in what we learned in school.

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Cakers3 — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 20:44:03 GMT

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Cakers3 — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 21:01:37 GMT

@Mominohio wrote:
@Laura14 wrote:
I have no issue with CC. I think it is ridiculous to judge a 15th century man by 21st century standards some of which are no better 6 centuries later in how we treat one another today.

Most important for me, it is Italian American heritage day so I am actually celebrating myself and all of my fellow Paisans too. Ciao gente!

You kind of summed it up in a nutshell with your first paragraph.

But we have to be PC and hate anything that lead us to where we are today, rather than study it and learn from it.

@Mominohio We are not learning about the discovery of America from the story of Christopher Columbus. Native Americans, Vikings, etc. were here long before the incorrect story that CC discovered what is now America, specifically the USA.

It isn't "PC" to recognize that CC was not "all that" to the indigenous peoples. THAT is what we learn from but sadly some have not taken one bit of that learning and applied it to today.

Being PC is refraining from slurs, stereotyping, and other hurtful actions against others. It has nothing to do with pointing out that CC, among others, was not a good person to those he considered beneath him.

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Cakers3 — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 21:05:19 GMT

@Laura14 wrote:
I have no issue with CC. I think it is ridiculous to judge a 15th century man by 21st century standards some of which are no better 6 centuries later in how we treat one another today.

Most important for me, it is Italian American heritage day so I am actually celebrating myself and all of my fellow Paisans too. Ciao gente!

@Laura14 I'm positive that the indigenous peoples CC hurt would not agree that it is "ridiculous". Of course, they are not around to speak up.

Whether the 15th century or the 21st century, cruelty to others is the same no matter who did it and to whom.

There are no expiration dates.