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Elizabeth Smart

danedylan — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 17:43:34 GMT

where is the justice?--her captive is going 2 b released 5 years early--she should never get out of jail in my opinion--as Elizabeth Smart said she knew exactly what was going on and she even encouraged that man whoever he was--where is the justice in America?--so sad--------------------------------

Re: Elizabeth Smart

happycat — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 17:51:47 GMT

@danedylan wrote:
where is the justice?--her captive is going 2 b released 5 years early--she should never get out of jail in my opinion--as Elizabeth Smart said she knew exactly what was going on and she even encouraged that man whoever he was--where is the justice in America?--so sad--------------------------------

Some kind of new fresh smelling mess is what this is. I saw this this am. I cannot even believe it.

One of the reporters this morning on CNN said someone, maybe her, had asked Elizabeth about Wanda and she said Wanda was SO VERY MEAN to her, while she was being held captive. So now, Elizabeth has 2 little kids and how on earth is she going to even be able to relax.

I agree @danedylan, she should not ever be seeing the light of day. She was an accomplice to kidnapping and rape of a young girl. No words for my disgust.

Re: Elizabeth Smart

GAQShopr53 — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 17:52:18 GMT

I saw a news broadcast on HLN and one of the presenters said the woman apparently served some of her time in Federal prison and that time was supposed to count so the parole board had no choice but to credit her the time and let her out...She should have been put into the sex offender category because of Elizabeth Smart's age at the time of the crime. I hope they keep an eye on her as I think she is still dangerous (regardless of her age).

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sweetee2 — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 17:55:04 GMT

Apparently part of her plea deal they were supposed to count time served and they didn't.

We're all sick about it.

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cookinfreak — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:04:56 GMT

Poor Elizabeth. I can't even imagine what she is going through. I also think along with others here, her captor should NEVER be allowed to go free. I hope the authorities keep an eye on her and throw her back in jail if she so much as jaywalk. I am praying for Elizabeth and her family

cookin

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CrazyDaisy — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:05:06 GMT

@sweetee2 wrote:
Apparently part of her plea deal they were supposed to count time served and they didn't.

We're all sick about it.

It is not like she is getting away with anything, it is was all agreed upon. Prosecuters should have been clearer. As they say the devil is in the details.

Re: Elizabeth Smart

esmerelda — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:08:13 GMT

It’s unclear to me...is this parole or is she free?

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wvumountiefan — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:08:25 GMT

People do more time for robbing a bank versus hurting a child!!! I already feel my blood pressure rising. Sickening!🤬🤬🤬

Re: Elizabeth Smart

millieshops — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:13:28 GMT

Anyone remember enough of the details of why her sentence was so different from that of the man? If she'd had his sentence to begin with, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

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IlliniGirl88 — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:16:02 GMT

I'm so disgusted and mad about this story, and can't imagine how Elizabeth Smart and her family feel about this. She seems like such a poised woman for all the horrors she's endured. This monster woman shouldn't be free to roam the streets. I don't care what type of "deal" this is, but Elizabeth is getting the raw end of it. Sick!

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goldensrbest — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:23:39 GMT

She has refused to take any mental testing,and help while in there, this makes no sense.

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Skyegirl21 — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:31:16 GMT

It is truly appalling- Elizabeth has shown such courage and resilience, my heart breaks for her. I wish there was something that could be done, another frustrating situation to add to the list...

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SydneyH — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:35:18 GMT

I'm reading the state did not honor her plea deal and she would have been already eligible for parole.

Re: Elizabeth Smart

happycat — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:38:01 GMT

@goldensrbest wrote:
She has refused to take any mental testing,and help while in there, this makes no sense.

I'd already forgot about that. That fact just makes this even more bizarre.

And she will be going to live somewhere.

Re: Elizabeth Smart

SydneyH — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:38:04 GMT

@millieshops wrote:
Anyone remember enough of the details of why her sentence was so different from that of the man? If she'd had his sentence to begin with, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

The prosecution used some of the information she provided for the charges against the man, secondly Barzee hinted she may use a battered woman's defense against her own charges.

Re: Elizabeth Smart

Scooby Doo — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:43:44 GMT

My personal opinion is that Wanda doesn't even want to be released. She has no where to go, her family won't take her in, she can't support herself. In prison she was taken care of and felt safe. She knows that life is going to be very difficult for her and that people hate her. Her every move is going to be monitored. Statistics show that one in every five parolees end up back in prison. I think she will be one of those. She will be watched so closely that if she sneezes wrong they will get her for violation of release.

The Smart family is powerful in the community and will make enough noise that they won't be ignored.

BTW, Elizabeth is pregnant with her third child.

Re: Elizabeth Smart

Scooby Doo — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:47:04 GMT

@SydneyH wrote:
I'm reading the state did not honor her plea deal and she would have been already eligible for parole.

She did have a parole hearing and parole was denied.

She did not appear for her own hearing.

Re: Elizabeth Smart

happycat — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:53:41 GMT

@Scooby Doo wrote:
My personal opinion is that Wanda doesn't even want to be released. She has no where to go, her family won't take her in, she can't support herself. In prison she was taken care of and felt safe. She knows that life is going to be very difficult for her and that people hate her. Her every move is going to be monitored. Statistics show that one in every five parolees end up back in prison. I think she will be one of those. She will be watched so closely that if she sneezes wrong they will get her for violation of release.
The Smart family is powerful in the community and will make enough noise that they won't be ignored.
BTW, Elizabeth is pregnant with her third child.

Unfortunately, for Elizabeth and her family, all the power and money didn't keep Elizabeth safe then and can someone really be watched 24/7? Whether we are talking about Wanda, or keeping Elizabeth and her family safe?

I feel no sympathy for Wanda.

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Scooby Doo — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:56:20 GMT

@millieshops wrote:
Anyone remember enough of the details of why her sentence was so different from that of the man? If she'd had his sentence to begin with, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Barzee pled guilty to lesser charges that the prosecution presented. A plea deal was accepted. Mitchell refused to cooperate and went to trial. He refused to cooperate with his lawyers. He proved himself looney toones. He would burst out singing in the court room so many times that the judge banned him from the coutroom.

Re: Elizabeth Smart

millieshops — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:57:58 GMT

@SydneyHTY I suspected as much, but I asked my question because I had no recollection of an uproar about the original sentence. If that sentence was based on her co-operation and was a plea deal prosecutors accepted at the time, I do understand the shorter sentence.

Still not sure she doesn't owe at least another year even given the plea, but I assume that depends on exact dates and details of the wording. I want her companion never to walk free - I'm not that forgiving!

Have to say I admire Smart for the life she has built since her ordeal. Powerful.