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National suicide hotline

cherry — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 11:58:22 GMT

tel:1-800-273-8255

It's a free call, and you can find help. If anyone reading this is desperate ,please call them, they want to help, and will understand, and not judge you

https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org

Re: National suicide hotline

dex — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 12:45:30 GMT

I just don’t understand what is happening to people....why do people who we think have it all feel so unhappy?What is making life unbearable for so many?I am just sad and shocked.

Re: National suicide hotline

Laura14 — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 12:52:19 GMT

@dex wrote:
I just don’t understand what is happening to people....why do people who we think have it all feel so unhappy?What is making life unbearable for so many?I am just sad and shocked.

@dex @dooBdoo posted a wonderful representation of what it's like in one of the Kate Spade threads. You may want to read it if you haven't already. Materialism and outside influences have nothing to do with it. It's an internal mind battle you never ever want to experience.

Re: National suicide hotline

dex — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 12:58:52 GMT

@Laura14 I did read what she posted and that is a very good explanation of how horrible these people feel inside but why so many.I heard that suicide rate was up 60% for women...this is what I just don’t get.....why so many very unhappy people and why doesn’t their family or friends seem to notice that something is wrong.

Re: National suicide hotline

Laura14 — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 13:05:38 GMT

@dex I'm not comfortable on this topic so I am not going to post much on it. I think everyone is just too caught up in their own lives nowadays to stop long enough to ask the question. And those that do, often sit in judgement rather than listen.

Add that to the nasty/unkind that society has become and all of it only reinforces the loneliness and I would be better off not being here and I think you have part of the answer to that question.

Re: National suicide hotline

dex — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 13:09:02 GMT

@Laura14@You said that you are not comfortable on this topic and I think you have given me the answer.We as a society can’t comfortably talk about this and so a person who really is hurting must try to keep that to themselves.

Re: National suicide hotline

sunshine45 — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 13:25:14 GMT

Text HOME to 741741 to have a confidential text conversation with a trained crisis counselor from Crisis Text Line. Counselors are available 24/7.

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Skididdy — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 13:28:59 GMT

@cherry, how nice of you to post this for those in need searching for something,,anything.

Your a good egg !!!!!!!

I applaud your post.

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Mz iMac — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 14:52:59 GMT

I think we need to step back a bit. Not everyone who commits suicide are "suffering" from depression or other forms of mental illness.

Re: National suicide hotline

cherry — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:08:42 GMT

@Mz iMac the link I provided makes no judgements about why a person feels like taking their own life. It is simply a tool, for those that are seeking a way to find help .

I would never comment on anyone's illness ,or mental state. I simply wanted to offer some support, for those that need a lifeline

Re: National suicide hotline

dooBdoo — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:27:14 GMT

Bless you for this thread, (((@cherry))).❤️ I want to add a couple of things.

"The VA estimates that 22 veterans commit suicide every day — men and women who served in peacetime and war, officers and enlisted personnel, all ages and from all military branches."

"The Veterans Crisis Line connects Veterans in crisis and their families and friends with qualified, caring Department of Veterans Affairs responders through a confidential toll-free hotline, online chat, or text.

Veterans and their loved ones can call 1-800-273-8255 and Press 1, chat online, or send a text message to 838255 to receive confidential support 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.

Support for deaf and hard of hearing individuals is available.

In some instances, callers may experience difficulty connecting with the Veterans Crisis Line.

If you have trouble reaching the call line, please click here to connect to chat, or text 838255 for immediate support.

More about the Veterans Crisis Line

https://www.veteranscrisisline.net/

Re: National suicide hotline

qualitygal — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:32:12 GMT

@dooBdoo, You are so valuable to the ladies and gents of the board, with all your helpful info! @cherry, You too, did a very helpful thing today. You never know when someone just might need this advice and info. Thank you.

Re: National suicide hotline

dooBdoo — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:35:17 GMT

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Re: National suicide hotline

dooBdoo — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:40:12 GMT

@qualitygal wrote:
@dooBdoo, You are so valuable to the ladies and gents of the board, with all your helpful info! @cherry, You too, did a very helpful thing today. You never know when someone just might need this advice and info. Thank you.

@qualitygal, Thank you.❤️ I feel grateful for the support and compassion I've received here over the years, and also for the abundance of important information others have shared. I can only hope to repay that debt to everyone here by offering insight or information when I can. We never know when something we add along the way might be of use or touch another human soul.

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riley1 — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:42:13 GMT

@dex - Please do not ask why friends and family don't "see" it or any change in the person. I had enough guilt asking that question for many years after my sister committed suicide as I had just been with her.

Sometimes, there are no indications at all. Yes, they can have it "all" on the outside, but inside they are hurting. I believe for most people they never seeing suicide coming - I know my family sure didn't.

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ALRATIBA — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:42:20 GMT

Playing the devil's advocate here .....

Why are so many concerned about the suicide rate but don't complain when states are passing assisted suicide legislation.

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Blingqueen023 — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:47:54 GMT

@Laura14 wrote:
@dex I'm not comfortable on this topic so I am not going to post much on it. I think everyone is just too caught up in their own lives nowadays to stop long enough to ask the question. And those that do, often sit in judgement rather than listen.

Add that to the nasty/unkind that society has become and all of it only reinforces the loneliness and I would be better off not being here and I think you have part of the answer to that question.

Nope, they’re too caught up in their cell phones. You can’t even see people’s faces anymore. They walk through parking lots with their heads down because they can’t break away for one min. Gosh forbid if they turn the phone off for a min. Our society stinks today because of cell phones. It’s turned out to be a me and me only society.

Re: National suicide hotline

dooBdoo — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 16:47:14 GMT

@dex wrote:
@Laura14 I did read what she posted and that is a very good explanation of how horrible these people feel inside but why so many.I heard that suicide rate was up 60% for women...this is what I just don’t get.....why so many very unhappy people and why doesn’t their family or friends seem to notice that something is wrong.

@dex, I don't know if there are more unhappy people, but do feel that the reduction of mental health services and the tendency to mock and demean therapists (and all medical practitioners for that matter) is a problem. Try talking about psychological issues, reasons for people's actions or feelings, and you'll be mocked as an "armchair psychologist." That's a constant and subtle indicator that attempts to learn about and understand the mind and emotions, to get at the sources so we can heal, are seen to be silly, frivolous, unimportant.

Also, there's still a stigma attached to "admitting" we have mental health problems (I wrote at length about that in the Kate Spade thread in the Fashion forum)... we are seen as weak, selfish, etc., and as long as that continues this problem will continue.

I need to say that family and friends can't always see there's something wrong. We want to encourage education and awareness, but it's essential that we don't exacerbate and add guilt to the grief family and friends must cope with after their loved one has passed away. This can be an invisible, insidious darkness -- some of us have learned to keep secrets and be especially adept at hiding what others deem our "weakness."

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mercyMe — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:56:31 GMT

So many of the prescription drugs we're taking today have warnings on the label ..."can cause suicidal tendencies." I take an opiod which renders the same warning .... perhaps this is why we are hearing so much about these sad cases.

Re: National suicide hotline

dooBdoo — Fri, 08 Jun 2018 16:04:39 GMT

@ALRATIBA wrote:
Playing the devil's advocate here .....

Why are so many concerned about the suicide rate but don't complain when states are passing assisted suicide legislation.

@ALRATIBA, This is a discussion society needs to have, for sure. However, I would have to separate out the issue of those who are suffering dreadfully with a fatal disease, when all quality of life is gone and there is no help. When assisted end-of-life care is offered, my understanding is that it's after quite a lot of medical diagnosis, treatment, and dedicated attention to the invidual's specific situation. I'm not sure I have the adequate knowledge or vocabulary to discuss the differences.