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Pilgrimages

Kachina624 — Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:29:46 GMT

Before I moved to New Mexico, I'd never lived where people undertook pilgrimages. I was just thinking about it and wonder if they happen elsewhere. Are there any in your area?

We have two, both done in connection with Easter. One is near Albuquerque which involves climbing a steep hill, called Tome Hill, which rises in the middle of the otherwise flat Middle Rio Grande Valley. There are crosses at the top and people climb the hill in honor of relatives, usually deceased.

The other involves people trekking often considerable distances to El Santuario de Chimayo, a very old picturesque mission church located in the foothills North of Santa Fe. It's known for having healing dirt. People began arriving there early this morning and many will get there throughout the day today.

The weather is picture perfect. Both of these pilgramages have been held for years and thousands of people participate.

El Santuario de Chimayo

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Goldengate8361 — Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:36:12 GMT

I’m not sure what makes a particular trip/destination a “pilgrimage.” People travel to Nashville all the time to visit the Ryman Auditorium, Wildhorse Saloon, and other Honky Tonks. It’s a religious experience for many. 😁

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phoenixbrd — Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:51:23 GMT

El Camino de Santiago in Spain more of a spiritual journey than picturesque as most of it takes place next to a road.

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Ms tyrion2 — Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:50:33 GMT

Sedona, AZ is said to be a spiritual vortex. I imagine many people go there for that. It is a breathtaking place.

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phoenixbrd — Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:54:03 GMT

@Ms tyrion2 I enjoyed the vortex in Sedona....but found the city itself so full of tourists/commercialism. Sacred ground if you journey into the landscape surrounding Sedona.

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goldensrbest — Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:54:23 GMT

Been to that little village,several times in the past .went to the weavers.

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phoenixbrd — Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:55:57 GMT

@Kachina624 I found Mt. Shasta to be a personal pilgrimage, but I think this endeavor is highly personal.

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SilleeMee — Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:58:12 GMT

Here in Colorado Springs, The Garden of the Gods was a place of sacred Native American gatherings, the Ute tribe in particular, but other Pueblo Nation tribes also participated. I believe it is no longer being done because of pressure to stop the crowding of the park.

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Ms tyrion2 — Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:59:29 GMT

@phoenixbrdwrote:
@Ms tyrion2 I enjoyed the vortex in Sedona....but found the city itself so full of tourists/commercialism. Sacred ground if you journey into the landscape surrounding Sedona.

That's true @phoenixbrd.

I usually go in the summer when there are fewer tourists. It's only about a 3 hour drive for me.

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Kachina624 — Sat, 31 Mar 2018 00:11:53 GMT

@Ms tyrion2wrote:
Sedona, AZ is said to be a spiritual vortex. I imagine many people go there for that. It is a breathtaking place.

@Ms tyrion2 @phoenixbrd. Isn't it a shame that Sedona couldn't have been made into a national park? It's got to be one of the most beautiful places in the US. Makes me sick to see houses backed up to some of those rock formations. I never experienced any vortex when I've been there. The thing that amazes me is that the average plot of land in the "country" looks like it was done by a landscape architect.

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Noel7 — Sat, 31 Mar 2018 00:14:52 GMT

@Kachina624

Not that I know of, but wow, that photograph you put up is beautiful!

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Kachina624 — Sat, 31 Mar 2018 00:15:48 GMT

@SilleeMeewrote:
Here in Colorado Springs, The Garden of the Gods was a place of sacred Native American gatherings, the Ute tribe in particular, but other Pueblo Nation tribes also participated. I believe it is no longer being done because of pressure to stop the crowding of the park.

@SilleeMee. II didn't know the Indians ever backed down on using resources for their ceremonies.

I heard a TV ad this week for the Ute casinos. They referred to winnings as "Ute Loot". For some reason that struck me as funny.

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SilleeMee — Sat, 31 Mar 2018 00:23:51 GMT

They called the gatherings 'pow-wows'. Lots of beating drums and chanting went on well into the night. Nearby residents complained to city officials about the noise and traffic. The land belongs to the city of CS park service so I think they had to move it some place else. Not sure where though. @Kachina624

Ute-Loot...so funny

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dancingwoman — Sat, 31 Mar 2018 00:28:19 GMT

@Kachina624 Lol DH and I go to the Sky Ute Casino in Ignacio, Co. On the first Wednesday of the month they give us Ute Loot...that's the only time we go because they also give us 6.00 off lunch... it's owned by the Southern Utes. Garden of the Gods as well as Sedona are breathtaking...DW

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Kachina624 — Sat, 31 Mar 2018 00:29:58 GMT

@SilleeMee. We have The Gathering of Nations, the world's biggest Pow-Wow, here this month. I've never been to it as I get a headache from the drumming just watching on TV. Their costumes are gorgeous, however, and probably worth a trip to see them.

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SilleeMee — Sat, 31 Mar 2018 01:08:51 GMT

Nice to see you again @dancingwoman. I was just thinking about you the other day when the national drought monitor was released a couple of weeks ago. It sure is bone dry down your way.

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libbyannE — Sat, 31 Mar 2018 00:40:26 GMT

Everywhere, humans set out on pilgrimages, depending on their interests, passions, beliefs. I won't bore you with mine!

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dancingwoman — Sat, 31 Mar 2018 05:02:42 GMT

Yes @SilleeMee its very very dry down here...we never had to plow this year...the ground wasn't white for more than 24 hrs before it melted. We are hoping for a wet spring but so far it isn't happening...fingers crossed....DW

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Desertdi — Sat, 31 Mar 2018 06:57:57 GMT

@phoenixbrdwrote:
@Ms tyrion2 I enjoyed the vortex in Sedona....but found the city itself so full of tourists/commercialism. Sacred ground if you journey into the landscape surrounding Sedona.

@phoenixbrd That "vortex" sucks the $$$$ right out of your wallet........(!!)

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Desertdi — Sat, 31 Mar 2018 07:10:12 GMT

@Kachina624 I lived in CA 25 years.......and everybody who came to visit me (plenty of them, and some I barely knew) wanted to go see the Missions. I've been to ALL of them......more than once...... And, yup, I've been to San Xavier del Bac (Tucson), too. Some times, I waited outside.......dog-sitting.........