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Classrooms are armed with a bucketful of rocks

cherry — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 20:25:12 GMT

Kudos for the resourcefulness of this school superintendent

http://wnep.com/2018/03/22/superintendent-says-students-are-armed-with-rocks-in-case-of-a-school-shooting/

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chrystaltree — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 20:42:29 GMT

I expected that craziness to be followed by....April Fools !!! I never heard of anything stupider or dumber than that idea. Unless, of course, the rocks have super powers that give them the power to defeat bullets.

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kitcat51 — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 20:38:56 GMT

This idea is...dumber than a box of rocks.

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Carmie — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 20:39:06 GMT

I saw that on the news last night. I think the superintendent has rocks in his head.

Those rocks will probably sit in the bucket forever, unless students get angry and start throwing them at each other.

If a student gets hurt with those rocks being thrown during a fight, there will be a lawsuit, and rightly so.

And, why tell the public what you are using for protection? Taking rocks to a gun fight is not prudent.

Most of the school shootings have been carried out by the students. I would think they would have a plan in place to remove the rocks or do a work a round if they know the rocks are there...so would an outside intruder.

Telling the public is an invitation to just dare someone to try to come into the school with a gun and smoke bombs.

This school district is about an hour from me and there is a lot of talk about it here. Almost everyone thinks it is a stupid idea..including me.

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cherry — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 20:42:20 GMT

I disagree. I think he is proactive, and not just setting wringing his hands..I would rather go down fighting than be slaughtered like sheep

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JaneMarple — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 20:46:37 GMT

I get the principal's point @cherry.

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Q4u — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:00:31 GMT

Well, unless the Super intends to give the students extensive training as to how to throw and aim as well as strength training they still won't have a chance against a semi-automatic firing off as many rounds as the perpetrator can pull the trigger.... but I have to hand it to him for the "feel good" bucket of rocks put in the classroom because it will give the students the feeling that they can do something and they won't be as scared. For that alone I give the Super kudos for thinking outside the box. However unless the perperator came to school with his own bucket of rocks, there is no way unless someone in that classroom gets awfully lucky.

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cherry — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:01:50 GMT

I'm sure some of the boys are going to be a good shot with a rock, and perhaps the girls too...

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jpie — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:08:15 GMT

While it is one more strategy to deal with such a horrific problem, I just can't get a visual of how this would work. It is certainly better that nothing. I would be too scared to throw rocks at someone armed with an assault-type gun. I would be more of the flee in a fight or flee scenario. Maybe it would work if the intruder was using a sling shot.

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cherry — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:12:03 GMT

Never underestimate the power of Adrenalin..If you are fighting for your life ,you might be surprise what the will to live ,will do

Some of those teenage boys are strong as an ox, and a rock took down Goliath..I think we should open a fund me account ,and get them slings, like David used

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Kmac444 — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:12:11 GMT

The mistake that the principal made was not trying to keep this quiet. I am a teacher and have been through many intruder drills. This is a technique taught in ALICE training. There is only one door in a classroom. Would you rather have students huddle in a corner and get slaughtered when someone comes in the door or would you rather have them surprise the intruder by throwing rocks and running screaming out the door. The gunman may get a shot or two off but this gives the best chance of survival to a trapped classroom of children. I have also heard of schools in which students each have a can of soup in their desks for the same reason.

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Carmie — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:14:27 GMT

It is just a matter of time before the students get into a fight with each other and throw the rocks. Someone is going to get hurt, needlessly.

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cherry — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:15:01 GMT

We don't know who told. It's pretty hard to muzzel an entire school..

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cherry — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:16:21 GMT

I'm just glad you aren't the teacher @Carmie..He is the first person I have seen with any ingenuity and guts

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ValentinaBon — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:16:26 GMT

@Kmac444wrote:
The mistake that the principal made was not trying to keep this quiet. I am a teacher and have been through many intruder drills. This is a technique taught in ALICE training. There is only one door in a classroom. Would you rather have students huddle in a corner and get slaughtered when someone comes in the door or would you rather have them surprise the intruder by throwing rocks and running screaming out the door. The gunman may get a shot or two off but this gives the best chance of survival to a trapped classroom of children. I have also heard of schools in which students each have a can of soup in their desks for the same reason.

@Kmac444 What is ALICE training?

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KingstonsMom — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:17:12 GMT

Please don't tell me that any rational thinking person actually thinks that if you were facing an armed shooter, that you would have the where-with-all to pick up a ROCK and throw it at him, hoping it would even hit him, much less save your life against a gun??

That's the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard.

And yeah, I had a gun shoved in my face once......picking up a rock and throwing it was the LAST thing I thought about.

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cherry — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:19:02 GMT

You use what you have. After 911 a pilot carried a hatchet on the plane ,and told the passengers to protect themselves with pillows and use whatever they had as a weapon

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Carmie — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:34:11 GMT

@cherry I am glad too. I wouldn’t want a job like that today. I am in a school a few times a week and my niece is a teacher and my sister a special ed teacher. Both have been hit and threatened by their students and they break up fights between the students often.

One girl in my sister’s class asked another girl to show her her arm. When she did, she cut her arm with a razor from the elbow almost to the wrist. The classroom was on lock down, but they never found the razor and everything was searched.

Unless you have been in a school lately, you would be surprised. Almost every day there is a fight somewhere among students...not a mouth battle, but a knock down fight. They are sometimes violent and bloody.

I pick my granddaughter up from school everyday. She often will tell me about a bloody fight, the police and ambulance that was there. Her school is not in a bad part of town and the kids are usually well behaved.

Some schools have thousands of students in the building and being human with a lot of hormones flaring up, this is bound to happen.

It is just a matter of time before those rocks get thrown during a fight.

I can almost guarantee it.

Our our country is high on emotions right now. We need to calm down and think this out better. Our kids safety is important.

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151949 — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:35:43 GMT

@chrystaltreewrote:
I expected that craziness to be followed by....April Fools !!! I never heard of anything stupider or dumber than that idea. Unless, of course, the rocks have super powers that give them the power to defeat bullets.

Not to mention the kids will be using them on each other - or the teacher!

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Carmie — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:36:42 GMT

@cherrywrote:

We don't know who told. It's pretty hard to muzzel an entire school..

Yes, we do. The superintendent was bragging about his idea all over the local news here.