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Sign Of The Times!

Annabellethecat66 — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 00:22:39 GMT

Sitting here watching all of these TV shows about those dear children mistreated by their parents!

I see this as a sign of the times. Isn't it pathetic that now the neighbors are talking about how, "They though it was strange bla bla" and "They saw the children pacing back and forth through the upstairs window for hours in the middle of the night" and on and on.

Family members saying, "We just felt strange around my brother and sister-in-law and bla bla".

The family members sit before the cameras (hair all done up, make-up perfect) talking to the cameras.

This just makes me sick. All we hear about terrorists is "if you see something.....say something". Even with that people don't speak up!

What is wrong with people that they couldn't pick up the phone and ask that the house and the people in there at least be looked into.

Did these children go to school? If so, where were the teachers? If they weren't able to bathe but once a year, they must have stunk? Why wasn't that at least reported?

I just can't believe this! It says something about society today. It's pathetic really.

One day I'll tell you what happened in my neighborhood. I'll say I'm not one to 'just let things go'.

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chessylady — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 00:41:10 GMT

They were home-schooled. Looks like the parents were religious nuts who saw nothing wrong with chaining up and starving their children to the point that they are developmentally disabled. Their punishment should be exactly what they put their children through.

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skuggles — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 00:44:08 GMT

I can't believe you missed all the stuff about home schoolng these children discussed here on these forums as well as the web. I don't think it's a sign of the times as much as it is aberrant human behavior which has always been. But I do see your question about us as to what constitutes a community and if you read Simone de Beauvoir's The Coming Of Age, this peculiar behavior is no more peculiar than some of the other communal, societal behavior's through out history. But there is the so-called "dark side of home schooling" which is not new as well. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/19/raashanai-coley-dark-side-home-schooling

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riley1 — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 00:44:13 GMT

@Annabellethecat66 - ITA. And, can't those calls for house checks be done anonomously?

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BornToShop — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 00:45:39 GMT

@Annabellethecat66, shaking my head. I especially loved the “if you see something say something” comment. Those so called neighbors are as guilty as the parents. Disgusting...to say the least.

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Lucky Charm — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 00:50:23 GMT

Honestly Annabelle--I always felt that things were waaaay worse now then back in the *olden days*.

But Geez Louise, when I read newspaper articles from a hundred years or so ago, I can't believe some of the things I read.

I cringe at how blatently morbid the reporting was---nothing seemed to be held back.

I am shocked that it's what my grandparents and great grandparents read.

We're talking the morning and evening editions of both Big City and Small Town USA. Well known newspapers, not rag mags like Enquirer.

And these were true stories, not fiction. Things that were happening. Gruesome murders, wicked people, unfortunate victims, sexual abuse (nothing was omitted).

I feel like things are *toned down* a bit, even though all this stuff still happens.

Anyways, getting back to the images that are coming out of the living conditions of the homes these children lived in, along with the abuse they endored, I feel badly for them that the whole world has to see how awful it was for them.

It just makes it worse/harder for them to get to a better place, in my opinion.

Hard for me to explain. It just makes me sicker that they can't walk out in the world without a canvas painted of them already.

Make any sense?

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SilleeMee — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 01:03:56 GMT

I read that the Turpins' are in the same belief system as the Duggars, the large family thing.

Tonight on 20/20...the Turpins.

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JavaQueen — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 01:06:41 GMT

It's just plain evil. Can't blame it on religion. These were deiintely soulless people.

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Hoovermom — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 02:06:53 GMT

This is beyond my comprehension:

+27

These two happy and well-fed one-year-old Maltese puppies were found inside the California House of Horrors, where David and Louise Turpin's children were shackled and starved. They were put up for adoption in Vargo

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Snowpuppy — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 06:59:38 GMT

Why do family members not speak up? They're afraid the kids will be dumped on them when the parents get locked up.

I've known women who encourage their grown daughters to stay in an abusive relationship because they don't want them moving back home with the grands in tow.

Worse yet, Granny got The New Man who doesn't want the extended family living with him. In Granny's house.

Don't even get me started.

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Nataliesgramma — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 11:36:47 GMT

I feel bad for those poor kids....I am sure there are alot more in this situation that we may never know about...

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qualitygal — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:15:46 GMT

@Annabellethecat66, they were home schooled. The oldest was 29 I think they said, so it's something they started years ago. It's the parents! But many years ago, people decided to not get involved (in other people's problems). Remember the woman who stood on the street being stabbed to death and people watched it going on from their apartment windows? People don't want to get involved. This is where the suffering comes in. (To me). Sad for the human race.

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summerwind — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:51:26 GMT

I can't speak for the family/neighbors mentioned here, but for 10 years, as a preschool bus driver, I was a mandatory reporter. The things we saw never, thankfully, reached this level, but when we did report things, nothing was ever done. As we dealt mostly with undereducated, poor, and/or lower class people (not meaning that in a bad way, it was the purpose of the school program to help these), a little education on appropriateness might have gone a long way. Sometimes the teachers were able to help, but even they were frustrated. And this is in a primarily upper-class city, two universities, several major corporate headquarters, etc.

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goldensrbest — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:58:21 GMT

One thing is people are so into their lives,that some do not even question things now , also if you happen to ask questions you are said to be nosey.

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reiki604 — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 14:42:57 GMT

@qualitygal wrote:
@Annabellethecat66, they were home schooled. The oldest was 29 I think they said, so it's something they started years ago. It's the parents! But many years ago, people decided to not get involved (in other people's problems). Remember the woman who stood on the street being stabbed to death and people watched it going on from their apartment windows? People don't want to get involved. This is where the suffering comes in. (To me). Sad for the human race.

@qualitygal I believe you are talking about Kitty Genovese. This happened in 1964. Clearly the don't get involved attitude goes back to then and before. Cults have been around forever as well as this behavior. Due to a 24/7 news cycle we hear about them now.

What I do find disturbing is that opinions and judgements are made without knowing the facts i.e children were homeschooled. This is the attitude of those who don't answer their front door and peer through the curtains to find out what is going on with everyone else. You cannot know what is going on in someone else's house unless you actually go and see it with your own eyes.

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nunya — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 14:53:20 GMT

Some parents do a great job homeschooling, others not at all.

I think there needs to be an "across the board" rules to follow for every state.

For example, testing, Dr visits, evaluations.

People should not be allowed to file as a private school and never have interaction with any reporting authority.

If you have nothing to hide, any of these checks should be no problem.

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nevergivesup — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 15:00:20 GMT

I for one am sick to death of people hiding under the cloak of religion to commit horrible abuse. We see this in other parts of the world and all agree that it is barbaric but somehow excuses are made when it is in our own backyard.

These so called religious movements are nothing but cults that are patriarchal in nature and give free rein to the isolation and abuse of women and children stunting their emotional growth and brainwashing them into zombies. Did no one get a clue when they saw all these malnourished children in identical dress smiling like robots in Las Vegas at their creepy parents’ vow renewal? Or did they justify it by saying they were well behaved? I had the Duggars’ number the first time I saw them and am horrified that there is still a tv show making money off this pathology.

Just do some research on the Quiverfull movement and check out the founders on you tube demonstrating how to whip your children and tell me this is religion. Sick, sick, sick!

Thank you for letting me rant. I only do this once every ten years or so.😊

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jeanlake — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 17:41:57 GMT

@JavaQueen Agree with you -- Don't blame a loving, higher power, but blame broken, man-made religion that sick people hide behind. Grevious evil.

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OfCourse — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 18:07:59 GMT

My guess is that people are afraid to contact the authorities in case they are wrong or nothing is done about it. Then they will be fingered as a troublemaker. I don't think this has anything to do with their religion. These people are child abusers, plain and simple. I wonder whether they will offer an insanity defense. How could parents make their children suffer like this? You'd think they'd be incapable of inflicting such cruelty.

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Mominohio — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 21:24:04 GMT

I can tell you why people don't 'see' or 'say' anything.

Because like on these boards, when someone in our lives makes a judgment call about a situation with someone, everyone is piling on and saying to mind your own business, who are you to judge, how do you know what is really going on, and don't you have better things to do than stick your nose in other people's business.

I see it here every time someone complains about a neighbor, a relative or a co worker. People are accused of making assumptions, judging those different than themselves, being anything from racist to mean spirited. The mantra on those threads is MYOB.

And so it goes in society. Stick your nose out and you will have people coming down on you from all sides.

Is it sad no one thought to make a call to authorities? Yes.

But I can see why people don't.