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Do You know what Apocalypse really means?

Sparky3333 — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 09:17:21 GMT

I didnt and just found out.Just curious how many others thought it was a awful thing that could happen.

An apocalypse (Ancient Greek: ἀποκάλυψις apokálypsis, from ἀπό and καλύπτω, literally meaning "an uncovering") is a disclosure of knowledge or revelation. In religious contexts it is usually a disclosure of something hidden, "a vision of heavenly secrets that can make sense of earthly realities".[1

Re: Do You know what Apocalypse really means?

on the bay — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 09:40:44 GMT

That is very interesting and much more encouraging!

I wonder when it became something ominous.

Maybe from the movie versions or something.

I'm glad to know that

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Nataliesgramma — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 11:03:57 GMT

I didn't know that!

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haddon9 — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 11:47:40 GMT

I guess it has more than one meaning because I Googled it and this is the first thing that came up:

a·poc·a·lypse

noun

1.
the complete final destruction of the world, especially as described in the biblical book of Revelation.
2.
an event involving destruction or damage on an awesome or catastrophic scale.

What I found interesting is if you put the word "An" in front of Apocalypse the meaning changes.

Re: Do You know what Apocalypse really means?

Mominohio — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 11:48:52 GMT

I did know this as it applies to the book of Revelations, and was the first application that I had learned/heard the word used as a child.

It always seemed to me, that we changed the word over time to remove it from that context. Yes, destruction, but with the disclosure of something good at the end.

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LTT1 — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 12:54:34 GMT

@Sparky3333

Makes a lot of sense.

I need to look up how it changes based on putting “an” in front.

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SeaMaiden — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 13:10:53 GMT

All I know is that the religious preachers are always wishing for the end... the coming.... like it is a good thing to have this revelation. Not my cup of tea thankyou very much.

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Quse — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 13:51:10 GMT

@haddon9 wrote:
I guess it has more than one meaning because I Googled it and this is the first thing that came up:

a·poc·a·lypse

noun

1.
the complete final destruction of the world, especially as described in the biblical book of Revelation.

2.
an event involving destruction or damage on an awesome or catastrophic scale.

What I found interesting is if you put the word "An" in front of Apocalypse the meaning changes.

Have to be careful with google and other modern query systems since they many times, lose the original translations because they try to "update" the info. I'd go with the Greek here, especially if you are refering to the book of Revelation. Things that were hidden will be revealed. With new knowledge, there will be a choice to make, given the new knowldege. Then the old passes away...you cab choose to pass away with it, or move into the something new. I'm sure caterpillars mourn the loss of their cocoon, until they realize:"Hey! I can fly now!"

Of course, if you are refering to "The Walking Dead", then I'd use the Google version 😂😂😂

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summerwind — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 20:50:03 GMT

Well, I may get flamed for this, but there are people who want to control, and one way of doing it is by frightening us. Control the language, control the people. (Or the thoughts of the people.)

Think of all the words we grew up using innocently, that we can't use anymore. They've been "appropriated" for other meanings, other agendas. I can't even put them down here. Phrases we used to use regularly are now considered "hate speech", because the meaning has been changed.

Anyway, I learned about this word, Apocalypse, recently, and it makes sense. I, for one, am more afraid of spiders than the coming changes. Will be interesting.

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Ms tyrion2 — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 15:36:30 GMT

@summerwind wrote:
Well, I may get flamed for this, but there are people who want to control, and one way of doing it is by frightening us. Control the language, control the people. (Or the thoughts of the people.)

Think of all the words we grew up using innocently, that we can't use anymore. They've been "appropriated" for other meanings, other agendas. I can't even put them down here. Phrases we used to use regularly are now considered "hate speech", because the meaning has been changed.

It seems to be running rampant these days, "Vote for me, or you'll lose your health care, free food, free housing, free this, that, the other". <<Sorry if that's considered political, mods, just delete the paragraph. It was to help make the point.

Anyway, I learned about this word, Apocalypse, recently, and it makes sense. I, for one, am more afraid of spiders than the coming changes. Will be interesting.

@summerwind wrote:
Well, I may get flamed for this, but there are people who want to control, and one way of doing it is by frightening us. Control the language, control the people. (Or the thoughts of the people.)

Think of all the words we grew up using innocently, that we can't use anymore. They've been "appropriated" for other meanings, other agendas. I can't even put them down here. Phrases we used to use regularly are now considered "hate speech", because the meaning has been changed.

It seems to be running rampant these days, "Vote for me, or you'll lose your health care, free food, free housing, free this, that, the other". <<Sorry if that's considered political, mods, just delete the paragraph. It was to help make the point.

Anyway, I learned about this word, Apocalypse, recently, and it makes sense. I, for one, am more afraid of spiders than the coming changes. Will be interesting.

Some of the words and phrases that are no longer acceptable is because they were always a form of hate speech or denigration of ethnicities or lifestyles.

You may have thought the words were innocent, but they never were.

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summerwind — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 15:43:10 GMT

@Ms tyrion2, yes, perhaps some, but not all. And sometimes language changes slowly, over decades, even centuries. I guess the word referenced here is a good example.

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Noel7 — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 15:52:50 GMT

@summerwind wrote:
@Ms tyrion2, yes, perhaps some, but not all. And sometimes language changes slowly, over decades, even centuries. I guess the word referenced here is a good example.

@summerwind

Probably all, but we can’t tell without knowing what they are and we can’t do that.

It’s not so much that words have changed, it’s that some are now code words.

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Ms tyrion2 — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 15:57:10 GMT

@Noel7 wrote:
@summerwind wrote:
@Ms tyrion2, yes, perhaps some, but not all. And sometimes language changes slowly, over decades, even centuries. I guess the word referenced here is a good example.
@summerwind

Probably all, but we can’t tell without knowing what they are and we can’t do that.

It’s not so much that words have changed, it’s that some are now code words.

I agree, @Noel7.

If the word cannot be used here, it was never innocent.

Code words and dog whistles are sadly gaining in use.

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LilacTree — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:00:26 GMT

IMO, we're living it right now.

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Mz iMac — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:03:49 GMT

@Sparky3333 wrote:

Do You know what Apocalypse really means?

YUP! If one day or night I look out my window & see these guys...

I know I am in deep st

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RainCityWoman — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 17:11:18 GMT

@summerwind wrote:
Well, I may get flamed for this, but there are people who want to control, and one way of doing it is by frightening us. Control the language, control the people. (Or the thoughts of the people.)

Think of all the words we grew up using innocently, that we can't use anymore. They've been "appropriated" for other meanings, other agendas. I can't even put them down here. Phrases we used to use regularly are now considered "hate speech", because the meaning has been changed.

It seems to be running rampant these days, "Vote for me, or you'll lose your health care, free food, free housing, free this, that, the other". <<Sorry if that's considered political, mods, just delete the paragraph. It was to help make the point.

Anyway, I learned about this word, Apocalypse, recently, and it makes sense. I, for one, am more afraid of spiders than the coming changes. Will be interesting.

It has been said that the only thing that's permanent is change. It's inevitable, and has nothing to do with religious dogma. The world religions have all kinds of dire warnings, promises, and predictions. People need to remember that it's all philosophy and nothing more. Religion through history has often been used to keep people in line, and even the most primitive of belief systems have based their whole premise on fear, mainly because it works. That technique is widely used in politics. My advice for everyone is to use the brain you are given in the pursuit of logic and reason. That in itself could be apocalyptic in the most positive meaning of the word.

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RainCityWoman — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 17:14:53 GMT

@Mz iMac wrote:
@Sparky3333 wrote:

Do You know what Apocalypse really means?

YUP! If one day or night I look out my window & see these guys...
I know I am in deep st

Where's the fourth guy? I thought it was the four horsemen of the apocalypse.

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Noel7 — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 17:18:43 GMT

@Mz iMac wrote:
@Sparky3333 wrote:

Do You know what Apocalypse really means?

YUP! If one day or night I look out my window & see these guys...
I know I am in deep st

I *LOVE* that little censored sign! @Mz iMac. And the pic!

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Cakers3 — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 18:28:07 GMT

@RainCityWoman wrote:
@Mz iMac wrote:
@Sparky3333 wrote:

Do You know what Apocalypse really means?

YUP! If one day or night I look out my window & see these guys...
I know I am in deep st

Where's the fourth guy? I thought it was the four horsemen of the apocalypse.

@RainCityWoman There are 4. Look to the left-the figure who looks as though he is wearing a top hat.

There are 4 horses, too.

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tansy — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 18:34:01 GMT

Isaac Newton predicted we’d all be toast in the year 2060.

Just thought I’d throw that tidbit into the mix...