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American Population Density, 1775

Oznell — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 14:39:55 GMT

This is so interesting. As you know, at the time of the revolution, the American colonies did not represent a big chunk of the world. But this map shows how very sparse a population we were. The whole area of Maine, according to this, fell UNDER the category of 2 to 15 people per square mile! Huge swatches of New York were the same.

To me, it makes it all the more remarkable that the slim belt of (relatively) higher density nascent Americans was able to spark the events that led to the formation of a country unique among nations.

https://www.awesomestories.com/asset/view/Population-Density-American-Colonies-1775//1

Note to moderators-- Apologies for posting the link of American history timelines. I should have been more diligent. There is no excuse, but these sites can be so cluttered with extraneous things and offers, etc. it is hard, for me at least, to tell if they are offering actual competing commercial links.

I will try to screen better in future.

Re: American Population Density, 1775

Cakers3 — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 14:45:17 GMT

I could deal with 1-15 people per square mile. No problem.

Re: American Population Density, 1775

sunshine45 — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 14:46:12 GMT

@Oznell

do you know if this map also included native americans as part of the population?

Re: American Population Density, 1775

Cakers3 — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 14:56:39 GMT

@sunshine45 wrote:
@Oznell
do you know if this map also included native americans as part of the population?

@sunshine45 From what I just researched Native Americans were not included in population counts until 1860.

Re: American Population Density, 1775

sunshine45 — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:02:38 GMT

@Cakers3 wrote:
@sunshine45 wrote:
@Oznell
do you know if this map also included native americans as part of the population?
@sunshine45 From what I just researched Native Americans were not included in population counts until 1860.

so then it would be pretty inaccurate without counting a portion of the population that lived in these areas. thanks @Cakers3.

Re: American Population Density, 1775

just bee — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:02:41 GMT

@Cakers3 wrote:
I could deal with 1-15 people per square mile. No problem.

@Cakers3

Have you considered Wyoming?

Re: American Population Density, 1775

Oznell — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:04:17 GMT

That was a great question, Sunshine45. You are a sharp thinker. Before I could even research it, our Cakers was on the job! Thank you, Cakers. Sadly, for purposes of this map, I think they were only including the colonists. The Native Americans, except for those individual ones who allied themselves with the interests of the colonists, would justifiably not have wanted to join a movement that would have resulted in a new country imposed on the continent, I believe.

Re: American Population Density, 1775

Cakers3 — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:05:03 GMT

@sunshine45 wrote:
@Cakers3 wrote:
@sunshine45 wrote:
@Oznell
do you know if this map also included native americans as part of the population?
@sunshine45 From what I just researched Native Americans were not included in population counts until 1860.

so then it would be pretty inaccurate without counting a portion of the population that lived in these areas. thanks @Cakers3.

@sunshine45 It would be but remember our Native Americans were not living in the cities/towns that were sprouting up at that time, too. Although even if they were I would not be surprised if they still would have been excluded.

Re: American Population Density, 1775

Oznell — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:06:17 GMT

Yeah, Wyoming is still a homesteader's fantasy of green unpopulated meadows and mountains! But what about all the ritzy tourist spillover from Jackson Hole and environs?

Re: American Population Density, 1775

Oznell — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:08:11 GMT

Hey, one of my posts went to a smaller font, then popped back to a normal size. I don't get it.

Re: American Population Density, 1775

Cakers3 — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:09:06 GMT

@Oznell wrote:
That was a great question, Sunshine45. You are a sharp thinker. Before I could even research it, our Cakers was on the job! Thank you, Cakers. Sadly, for purposes of this map, I think they were only including the colonists. The Native Americans, except for those individual ones who allied themselves with the interests of the colonists, would justifiably not have wanted to join a movement that would have resulted in a new country imposed on the continent, I believe.

@Oznell Not just colonists but slaves and indentured servants are included in population maps during colonial times.

You're welcome. Interesting question and findings.

Re: American Population Density, 1775

Cakers3 — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:11:09 GMT

@just bee wrote:
@Cakers3 wrote:
I could deal with 1-15 people per square mile. No problem.
@Cakers3

Have you considered Wyoming?

@just bee That would work. LOL

Re: American Population Density, 1775

just bee — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:14:50 GMT

@Oznell wrote:
Yeah, Wyoming is still a homesteader's fantasy of green unpopulated meadows and mountains! But what about all the ritzy tourist spillover from Jackson Hole and environs?

@Oznell

The Californians?

Re: American Population Density, 1775

Oznell — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:19:46 GMT

just bee, you are in one of your mischievous moods!

Re: American Population Density, 1775

Anonymous — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:23:50 GMT

This post has been removed by QVC because it is baiting

Re: American Population Density, 1775

just bee — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:29:34 GMT

@Oznell wrote:
just bee, you are in one of your mischievous moods!

@Oznell

Moi? (Fluttering of lashes.)

Re: American Population Density, 1775

geezerette — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:37:34 GMT

@just bee wrote:
@Oznell wrote:
Yeah, Wyoming is still a homesteader's fantasy of green unpopulated meadows and mountains! But what about all the ritzy tourist spillover from Jackson Hole and environs?
@Oznell

The Californians?

Not to mention some sort of high speed rail-pod thingy being planned from WY to CO.

Re: American Population Density, 1775

geezerette — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:38:19 GMT

@Oznell wrote:
just bee, you are in one of your mischievous moods!

@Oznell

Isn't she always? 😉

Re: American Population Density, 1775

just bee — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:43:52 GMT

@geezerette wrote:
@just bee wrote:
@Oznell wrote:
Yeah, Wyoming is still a homesteader's fantasy of green unpopulated meadows and mountains! But what about all the ritzy tourist spillover from Jackson Hole and environs?
@Oznell

The Californians?
Not to mention some sort of high speed rail-pod thingy being planned from WY to CO.

@geezerette

You saw that, too? The pod people...

Re: American Population Density, 1775

just bee — Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:45:12 GMT

@geezerette wrote:
@Oznell wrote:
just bee, you are in one of your mischievous moods!
@Oznell

Isn't she always? 😉

@geezerette

5, 4, 3, 2...

That last comment will disappear, too, I wager.